Like what I heard on that NPR first listen, but don't think I'm going for the 18 cd box version on Dylan's website.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 November 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
I went all in on the big boy. Can't wait!
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 2 November 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link
ysi?
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
Call me when they get to releasing the Blood on the Tracks sessions. . .
― austinato (Austin), Monday, 2 November 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
Look for the Outlook calendar invite in your email
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
even though it's objectively kind of a mess I'm digging this shambling Bo Diddley take on "Outlaw Blues"
Yes, ^this! Thought about posting about it over the weekend.
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link
it's pretty fun -- i just like that dylan (and his musicians) were definitely working w/o a clear roadmap in '65.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
In the same way he drew upon and inserted himself into the blues tradition of borrowing and repurposing, his alternate takes don't all seem like failed attempts or rough drafts, more like variations on a theme.
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link
how do these compare with the boots? are there previously unheard takes? I haven't read anything about it.
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link
loads of previously unheard takes + pristine sound quality
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
haha anyone catch - "Once upon a time you dressed so fine, threw the dumbs a bime in your prime - DIDN'T YOU?"
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
haha yes
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
you know, stadows
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
lol
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
wow
so is this "circulating" yet?
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
well you can listen to a bunch of it on that NPR link upthread
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
xpost to Euler: do your own homework, young man. Think this might be the same take of "Barbed Wire Fence" (Bloomfield playing those bob wire riffs?) as on the excellent Series of Dreams, and seem to recall SoD incl. even faster "It Takes A Lot To Laugh..."--anyway, past the okay acoustic and maybe semi-acoustic versions, some with not-quite-there-yet lyrics, the fast versions are all fun, and I def. never thought of "Johanna" as a fast girl, but can see why he chose the slower masters, as effective changes of pace: world-weary "up all night" "Train" between the spiky roadkill races and mood-swing ballads on Highway 61, slower, spookier prowl in the dank smokey mood halls of Blonde on Blonde's "Visions," where we also got cooler, dryer blues for "Leopard-Skin" and "Pledging My Time," etc. But yeah good to have these; also wish he'd found room on one of the original LPs for the Stonsey "If You Gotta Go (Go Now)." Sounds like he's in some kind of triangle on "She's Your Lover Now"; don't remember that one!
― dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
lol @ bob wire
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
"She's Your Lover Now"
this was bootlegged a lot, incredible song
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link
yeah, the solo piano version was booted, the (barely) incomplete version showed up on the first bootleg series, both incredible. take on the NPR stream is very different. actually sounds very close to the early waltz-time "rolling stone"s actually. will be interesting to hear how it developed ... and then undeveloped, I guess, since they gave up on it at some point.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
Sure I remember Greil Marcus quoting it in Mystery Train
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link
on this unreleased take i think he says "what are ya some kinda moose - Ain’t there nothin’ you can say?" lol
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
have been avoiding even thinking about this but that ^^^ may have trapped me
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
Dunno if this was its first appearance, but the same take on The Bootleg Series showed up on this (presumably 70s) boot:https://bfrenzy.s3.amazonaws.com/items/221605627688.jpg
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG8Hi-fpyLI
Nothin tu to turn off imo
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
the over-the-top THUD THUD THUD THUD loud/fast version of johanna from the no direction home soundtrack was my #1 on the dylan poll for some reason. this one is warm+thoughtful in comparison. better prob but less melodramatic + bobvoice-stuffed (like vocal gifs). still the most amazing song.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
should be an all-johanna bootleg comp called versions of johanna.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
"cutting edge" version does come at the bottom of this partic heap imo:
mona LISA must have had the highway blues, YOU CAN TELL BY HER SMILE < BUT mona LIsa must'vehadthehighway BLUES you can TELL by the WAY she SMILES < buuuuut mona LIsa MUST'vehad the HIGHwayblues, YOUCANTELLTHATBYTHEWAYSHESMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILES
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
xp ha i actually did that a while ago -- though i called it Freeze Out ...think this latest version of VofJ is the loud/fast version! i mean, it couldn't be any faster, i don't think. the one on no direction home is kinda stately...
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
yeah yr prob right. just punchier.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
I'm pretty into this so far....for me, Dylan bootleg series entries generally fall into 3 categories:
1) official release of some legendary shit (Live 66, Basement Tapes Complete)
2) ones that attempt to redefine your perception of an era (Another Self-Portrait, Rolling Thunder, Tell-Tale Signs)
3) Catnip for hardcore Dylan dorks
This is squarely in category 3 (it's not like this era is exactly in need of critical reappraisal), but it's pretty fun for me
I think my 2 dream Bootlegs at this point are:
1) Christian era outtakes/live/etc a la Another Self-Portrait/Tell-Tale Signs
2) A 3-CD version of Blood on the Tracks that breaks the album down into 2 different version - the NYC version and the Minneapolis version, then a 3rd CD of outtakes
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
4) A compilation of great never ending tour live material with great sound
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link
Lol my count's terrible
xxp luckily for you I think both of those will probably happen in the next decade
― sleeve, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link
4) A compilation of great never ending tour live material with great soundthis would be great, but i'd probably prefer like a dick's/dave's picks kinda approach w/ this stuff, with full shows, rather than a comp? i don't know, i'd take anything. i love the neverending tour.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
do you know if they've made a habit of recording it (i mean Dylan's actual crew in a professional manner not just tapers)?
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link
Full shows would be great too, and probably more in the spirit of the neverending community
Really hope someone's been taping good - but iirc judging from audio quality on live takes from tell tale signs maybe not
― niels, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link
some shows sound like they might be professionally recorded---maybe not soundboard, but maybe by a professional? Like Pete Cosey mentioned to an interviewer that he was in the habit of recording while onstage with Miles (kept a box of tapes under his bed, listened when he felt like it).
― dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link
After this sampler, I wanna hear a fast-ass "Sad-Eyed Lady Of Thee Lowlands."
― dow, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
OK wow this double time boogie Visions of Johanna
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
you know what this reminds me of a bit? Jason & the Scorchers' cover of "Absolutely Sweet Marie"
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link
Surprised there hasn't been talk of a live '65-'66 box.wouldn't be tooooo surprised if this came out next year? complete newport set, hollywood bowl, the rumored carnegie hall tape, and various euro 66...
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link
I don't think I ever realized Like a Rolling Stone was in 3/4 until hearing this rehearsal take. Is the released version in 4/4? Now I can't remember....
― Darin, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
it switches up to 4/4 at some point
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link
Released version 4/4
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 November 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
samples of all the six disc tunes here: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/music/bootleg-series-vol-12-cutting-edge-1965-1966-deluxe-edition
― tylerw, Monday, 2 November 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
is it just me or does the cover art look very amateurish? maybe they're mimicing unauthorized boots
http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2015/10/150924_boot12_cover-575x560-575x5601-575x560.jpg
― niels, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:22 (eight years ago) link
Ah
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 09:34 (eight years ago) link