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somebody at fusion wrote a chrome extension that turns the heart into an animated poop emoji

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

That reminds me, what do you guys think of Periscope? Feels like this era of instant streaming video has yet to really hit a critical point, but I've watched a few interesting streams.

I knew when I got the notification that my friend was trapped on the Tower of Terror ride at Disney World that it'd be a boring, if illuminating, moment

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link

Man that ride fucks up a lot.

pplains, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

ive never seen anything good on there but a lot of ppl are convinced its the future, im skeptical that really that many ppl want to watch no production values live video from someones phone, idk live streaming startups have been coming and going for like ten years now, justin.tv where i used to watch illicit nba streams did turn into twitch and sell to amazon for a billion, the best streaming company is obv younow not just cause it sounds like the name of a fake app from a tv show but because u can watch teens sleep lol http://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/im-addicted-to-watching-teens-sleep#.rh7ElWDxx

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

music industry is whistling in the dark about how periscope affect live shows; right now it's impossible to patrol cell phone shooting and periscope gives the audience the right to livestream... which no artist would ever voluntarily give up of course. so by and large venues and promoters are weirdly pretending like it doesn't exist while still obsessively banning camcorders with less resolution or online connectivity. it's gonna come to a head soon i think.

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

younow is a direct rip of this south korean stream platform so yah its obv the best one

dead (Lamp), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

nb i am not cosigning/cassandra-ing periscope specifically, just the core tech.

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

got super into korean streams where ppl order lots of take out and thean eat it on stream

there was also a rad one where this couple decorated their apt on stream

dead (Lamp), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

I would watch those

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link

can u get amateur porn on stream, if so link pls

schlep and back trio (anagram), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

that falls more under camming

pizza rolls are a food that exists (silby), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

citizen panopticon a good thing as Ferguson and BLM streamers have made evident in the past year, whether it's #disruptive to #media is another thing I guess

pizza rolls are a food that exists (silby), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

Live streams from eye-level wearables will be the killer appliance for better and indeed worse.

nashwan, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

can u get amateur porn on stream, if so link pls
― schlep and back trio (anagram)

Chaturbate - Semi-dystopian post-chatroulette mardi gras

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

chaturbate is such a terrible portmanteau word

soref, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

Needs and s/z sound in there.

my harp and me (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/heDl5HI.jpg

pplains, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

hearts seems like not an important change to the experience of reading twitter

also for some reason it didn't change on my phone

flopson, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah my iPhone app still has the stars

k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link

if u force quit the app the hearts will show up

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

Seen a couple of grumbling pieces about how twitter is going to die because its too toxic - so the heart thing is funny.

I don't want to see it go, its probably the only social media thing I am ever going to use (don't ever take photos, just like typing into boxes) and I really wanted to talk guerilla warfare with comrades as the UK enters a tense and volatile state of class war.

Hopefully they can de-list it off the stock exchange (LOL making money) or something twitter-like can come along in its place that won't be monetized or create jobs.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link

I DON'T FIGHT that much on Twitter. Feel like I'm missing something.

pplains, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link

y'all https://twitter.com/dead_cells/status/661775509366394880

flopson, Thursday, 5 November 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link

It's not that I'm offended by the heart itself. I just don't want the world to see a Tweet that I arrogantly deemed important with a cutsey little cupid symbol instead of something a little less emotional like a star.

So all the fart extensions in the world doesn't really do anything in this case.

pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link

Twitter is only social media platform I've been able to relate to. I approach it like the old USENET days - Tweetbot is a great client with enough filtering that can turn down the roar into a manageable ticker-tape of infosec global paranoia with interjections from any number of insane people. Some of them post here.

What galls me about the star into heart nonsense is that Twitter actually saw this as a way to fix themselves. Like they had debates and meetings about this.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 5 November 2015 06:58 (eight years ago) link

Just picturing a manager walking into a meeting, striding up to the whiteboard without a word, and drawing a really huge heart. Worker bees begin buzzing, "where's he going with this? What's this all about?" as the manager slowly turns around to face his team.

pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 08:42 (eight years ago) link

You should direct The Social Network II: The Twitter Story.

Jeff, Thursday, 5 November 2015 12:04 (eight years ago) link

It's got to wait until I'm finished working on my screenplay about the men and women who created Bud Light Lime.

pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link

What galls me about the star into heart nonsense is that Twitter actually saw this as a way to fix themselves.

^ This cuts through a lot of the outraged nonsense. Speaks volumes for what might be going on in the company.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link

this is what galls me about it, from their official blog:

We are changing our star icon for favorites to a heart and we’ll be calling them likes. We want to make Twitter easier and more rewarding to use, and we know that at times the star could be confusing, especially to newcomers. You might like a lot of things, but not everything can be your favorite.

The heart, in contrast, is a universal symbol that resonates across languages, cultures, and time zones. The heart is more expressive, enabling you to convey a range of emotions and easily connect with people. And in our tests, we found that people loved it.

Yeah, stars are really confusing and not everyone understands them whereas they do hearts???

schlep and back trio (anagram), Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link

They should just add emoji reactions like slack.

Jeff, Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:21 (eight years ago) link

languages, cultures, and time zones.

pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

"people in the mountain time zone drive like this..."

pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link

As a last.fm user I really don't get why people are bothered about this heart thing.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

Lots of different reasons hence the scale of uproar.

But on last.fm the heart's intended use is to indicate you LOVE a track (seems less likely someone would use it on songs they 'merely' like or other reactions).

On Twitter the function it now represents is more generic approval and literally means 'like' (not even love). That's a pedantic objection to most but arguably poor semantics and UI design. It also prioritises a demonstrably emotional response over something more subjective - some see this as both presumptuous and increasing the phoney corporate tweeness of Twitter (RIP failwhale). It doesn't accommodate well the many reasons people would fav a tweet (including to compile e.g. abusive tweets), it gives a sense of trying to be more like its market-superior Facebook and a sense of Twitter mis-prioritising when they remain in the news for facilitating abuse and impeding diversity.

nashwan, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:14 (eight years ago) link

Sorry that's not what I meant by mentioning last.fm, was referring to wholesale trashing of entire last.fm website vs changing an icon from a heart to a star, like seriously if you care about this I think perhaps you need to take up a hobby.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link

Oh sorry, I still don't quite get the comparison tho? A lot of the last.fm redesign trashing stems from how incomplete (missing features previously well-established) it remains tho whereas this is just one small change with a lot of interesting implications just in itself (linked to the fundamental flaw of the feature in the first place).

nashwan, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link

this may be flippant but imho the reaction against this is dumb as hell. i think the amount of hand-wringing over this change is disproportionate to how the function is & will be actually be used. you can still use 'likes' as a bookmarking utility if you choose, calm down.

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:33 (eight years ago) link

is awarding people little gold stars is somehow less twee than clicking a heart? i'm not so sure

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

I'd watch a twitter movie if it's an adaptation of this: http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/28/jack-dorsey-comic-book/

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

they shdve just used facebook thumbs up imo

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

imo the "favorite" thing was envisioned as a bookmark, a list for you, not for the favorited person. once users started using it as a sort of facebook-style "like" then it became a token of appreciation for the original writer

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

yeah I don't think many twitter users are going to the list of things they favorited or w/e to revisit or follow-up on things, it's become a signal boosting/reward mechanism

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

is awarding people little gold stars is somehow less twee than clicking a heart? i'm not so sure

What if in your gmail, instead of starring important emails to easily recover later, they made the icons into little red hearts?

I mean, yeah. Apparently, you can replace the symbol with an animated gif of an exploding poo and get the same effect. I'm not rending my garment or gnashing my teeth over the change, but it is definitely a pronounced switch in the context in which people were used to using it.

pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link

Not everything on the internet has to be a goddamm Rose Is Rose cartoon.

pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link

ppl were using it more like a heart than a star if thats the delineation, but also everyone uses it ~in their own way~ and like just keep using it that way who cares lol, but if you had to say how ppl in general were generally using it they were using it more like a like than a bookmark ime

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link

also the name of it was favorite which is actually much stronger than like, they changed the image from a star to a heart but they changed the name from a heart to a thumbs up

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link

xp tweets aren't emails, though! god forbid. i think this is based on the assumption that people were actually using the favorites function to bookmark tweets for later recovery which, by and large... they weren't? afaict the fav had long & widely been used as a social feedback mechanism and they just changed the icon to be more in line with how the function was already being used

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

ppl don't really bookmark tons of websites in the hopes of revisiting them occasionally to see what's new these days, mostly? I think Internet Explorer is the patient zero of "favorites" with a star icon, implying there's some sort of scarcity to a favorite

idk I think most people just type into google to return to things now or rely on url autocomplete on the web

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link


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