I saw it last week, the person I was with thought it was (quote) "the greatest thing they'd ever seen", I'm a bit more of a sceptic!
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link
35mm showing of Rublev yesterday in Brooklyn, packed. I'd forgotten how 'experimental' it is narratively, w/ AR as sort of a 'decentralized' protagonist.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, June 1, 2015 11:50 AM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yea this surprised me abt it, just watched
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 22:42 (eight years ago) link
Just watched "Mirror" on the big screen tonight. The first Tarkovsky I've seen (Ok I watched "Solaris" when I was a teen on TV but I didnt watch the whole lot). Its very much an impressionistic picture of his mother. I found it better when I just let the images wash over me. Like we live through troubled times right now but it puts things into perspective when you watch footage of the Spanish Civil War and Maoist China. I suppose there was a puzzle aspect to it too which kept making me trying to decipher what was happening on screen which was frustrating at times though.
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Sunday, 24 July 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeUvB-KXQZk
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 18 January 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link
Solaris, it's not even close. but I'm very excited to see The Sacrifice for the first time at a theater here next month.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 18 January 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link
reading through Sculpting in Time again, and came across a passage (about The Mirror, but also about his creative process) that I thought others might enjoy. Was about to type it all out, but the whole book is (currently) online at: https://monoskop.org/images/d/dd/Tarkovsky_Andrey_Sculpting_in_Time_Reflections_on_the_Cinema.pdf.
https://i.imgur.com/ivrTkCp.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/kleXE6u.jpg
― and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
ha. was just reading this over lunch, though i might be about 50 pages ahead of you.
― circa1916, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link
I need to rewatch Mirror having read that Geoff Dyer book.
― mh, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
whoops, sorry, brain fart: I obviously meant Stalker
― mh, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 19:07 (six years ago) link
what do you think of it, circa? like his movies, at times i find myself drifting off and kind of forget what he's even talking about, and then suddenly he'll switch into something tangentially related that is somehow much more gripping and personal, and i'm sucked right back in again.
― and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link
Feel similarly. It’s not something I’m finding myself desperately itching to pick up, but whenever I do, there are always insights amongst the drifting (and occasional repetition) that hit. It’s good. And I’ll probably want to go through his films again after this.
― circa1916, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
How do people who rate The Mirror rate Malick’s Tree of Life?
― circa1916, Saturday, 10 March 2018 07:35 (six years ago) link
I rate both tbh
― Simon H., Saturday, 10 March 2018 09:47 (six years ago) link
They are quite different? I like both, but The Mirror is obviously better.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 10 March 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link
They’re different, absolutely, but undeniably shared ground there. A lot of things in Tarkovsky’s book align with Malick’s MO. Would be surprised if The Mirror wasn’t an inspiration.I love them both.
― circa1916, Saturday, 10 March 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link
hbd
Interviewer: What animal would you wanna be? 😜Andrei Tarkovsky: I have a dog named Dark, bearing a human soul, that no longer respects me pic.twitter.com/L3AUS8ipvS— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) April 9, 2017
― flappy bird, Thursday, 4 April 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/ttV63eR.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Q5fIQeu.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/kQRaO6g.png
many dozens more of these at: http://www.graphicine.com/andrei-tarkovskys-polaroids-instant-light
― i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 June 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
those are amazing! there is a painting-like quality about polaroids that is unlike any other kind of film
I wonder what kind of camera made those. they don't have the nearly-square image size (or basic resolution) of standard SX-70/SX-680 integral film and they don't appear to have the 8x10 ratio of the larger polaroids.
they look like 20x24 images to me
― Dan S, Sunday, 16 June 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
WHENNNNNN is mirror getting re-released
― flappy bird, Sunday, 16 June 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link
About 3 years ago?https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mirror-Blu-ray-Anatoli-Solonitsyn/dp/B01BFH7QT4/
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 17 June 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
Re the Polaroids - Polaroid sold a lot of the 635 CL in Russia and the image dimensions and aesthetic seem very similar:https://www.lomography.com/magazine/192280-getting-instant-with-the-polaroid-635-cl
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 17 June 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
also - hard to see details and may have a sticker on it:https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/ce/45/5ace4568c7e28a8e02750ae28ba5633a.jpg
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 17 June 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
not looking for PAL pal
― flappy bird, Monday, 17 June 2019 04:30 (four years ago) link
Makes no difference unless you have a 20 year old TV - the blu ray is 1080p / 24p which any blu ray player can output as PAL or NTSC or (more likely) send to the TV as 24p for display at 24fps, if it's a recent or higher end TV.I'm not sure if it's zone B tho - in the US that would require a multi region bluray player.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 17 June 2019 05:59 (four years ago) link
I love those polaroids, they come up now and then on twitter its good to see a stack of them.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:40 (four years ago) link
me too.
― Shite New Answers (jed_), Monday, 17 June 2019 10:44 (four years ago) link
isn't there a book? it comes up on amazon when searching for the films
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Instant-Tarkovsky-Polaroids-Giovanni-Chiaramonte/dp/0500286140 (£120)
― koogs, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link
(that's from 2006. there are two others, with essays, from 2012 and 2019)
― koogs, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link
That’s a great book. It wasn’t anywhere near £120 when I bought it, must be out of print
― I am using your worlds, Monday, 17 June 2019 11:25 (four years ago) link
The book of interviews is quite good as well. I especially enjoyed the one with Irina Brezna from 1984: she directly calls him out on his archaic treatment of female figures.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link
It's the one aspect of his work I've never been able to tune out.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 11:35 (four years ago) link
I have that book too. Haven't seen the ones with essays.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Monday, 17 June 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
― flappy bird, Monday, 17 June 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
http://www.openculture.com/2010/07/tarkovksy.html?fbclid=IwAR0Q6zqfyO9fW1IHqTtNnOXHV-eoaasZ_CCZ0FfNiee3Mjm0UNh1Pb28E2E
Stalker, Solaris, The Mirror & Andrei Rublev being streamed for free by Mosfilm on youtube.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link
https://i.redd.it/qu6hhxwnqxa31.jpg
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link
shit, I'm getting video not available.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link
vpn?
― ogmor, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
that's something i don't have, if it's not a massive derail which is a good one pls?
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
That openculture link was first posted on this thread nine years ago when it first went up, btw.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
i am no more authoritative than google. if you use opera as a browser it has one built in you can turn on.
love to see andrei dance
― ogmor, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
opera sounds a good option
xp
lol .. well I'm there for those that missed it! just started reading Last Witnesses so might give Ivan's Childhood another whirl.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link
yep, works a treat with Opera.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link
probably the wrong thread for this, but I can't even get the first few pages of Last Witnesses out of my head. It's someone who was a young girl during the invasion talking about her mother's corpse being hastily chucked under some sand before she get's onto a cart loaded with other war orphans.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
Looks like the version of Andrei Rublev on youtube is the cut version, which omits the unpleasant killing of a horse (which was carried out for real in the shoot). The UK DVD also omits this due to UK censorship laws. I believe the US DVD is uncut.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
Oh, it is
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
I think the film stands up fine without that horrible scene, so can't argue with that bit of censorship.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
I'm sure that's in the BFI version, maybe I have an earlier release or something. Anyway it's a distracting scene (you start wondering if it's as real as it looks and then you're out of the world of the film), so good riddance to it.
― crumhorn invasion (Matt #2), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
another thing is the bit in Ivan's Childhood showing real footage of Goebbels' dead kids is something I can understand in the context of the time, but there is no question that it is absolutely gratuitous and vile as well to say the least.
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link
Good piece:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/02/15/the-drenching-richness-of-andrei-tarkovsky
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link
As far as the issue of misogyny is concerned – the biggest sticking point in my appreciation of his work – I remember flipping through an English-language volume of Interviews that features a combative encounter with Irena Brežná, who takes him to task in very direct terms. At one point, he shifts the blame from men to 'the Lord', which is such a characteristically patriarchal gesture that I couldn't help but laugh at Ross trying to wrest Tarkovsky away from the clutches of the reactionary, imperialist Russian Orthodox forces that view him as their champion. Yes, Tarkovsky was akin to Dostoevsky in that his unflagging commitment to art attenuated the most backward-looking of his political stances, but his films so clearly aspire towards theological transcendence that his self-described agnosticism is hardly the automatic saving grace Ross makes it out to be.
Anyway, Tarkovsky has left an indelible mark on me, and there is no cinematic oeuvre I value more, but I don't know if I could still subject myself to, say, the bits of Nostalghia where the Italian translator's 'hysterical' unhappiness is revealed to stem from her refusal to be a God-fearing housewife and mother. The Mirror is perhaps the only film of his that treats its female characters with genuine respect yet the mother as (false) exception to one's shameless sexism is a classic trope in and of itself. I also think Ross sells Solaris a bit short: the 'return of the repressed' embodied by the living ghost of Natalya Bondarchuk points towards a kind of self-subversive guilt on the male protagonist's part.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 15:48 (three years ago) link