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ppl don't really bookmark tons of websites in the hopes of revisiting them occasionally to see what's new these days, mostly? I think Internet Explorer is the patient zero of "favorites" with a star icon, implying there's some sort of scarcity to a favorite

idk I think most people just type into google to return to things now or rely on url autocomplete on the web

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

might start tweeting again because of this

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

bookmarking still popular, it's just called pinterest now

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

kind of!

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

full disclosure i have only like 9k+ tweets but 43k+ favs/likes

why because engagement

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

why because you have good tweets

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

imo the "favorite" thing was envisioned as a bookmark, a list for you, not for the favorited person. once users started using it as a sort of facebook-style "like" then it became a token of appreciation for the original writer

― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, November 5, 2015 9:37 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well...it was always going to be used that way as long as people can see that people favorited/liked their tweet, and who did it, and how many.

some dude, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

which reminds me, i only just noticed recently that it's sometimes possible to not see who favorited a tweet, if it's a locked account and you don't follow them. and i get that some people want privacy but it's kind of frustrating -- if it's the same person favoriting my tweet every time that happens, it'd be nice to know who it is and request permission to follow them!

some dude, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

mh i mean i've given out 43k+ stars that have since morphed into exploding hearts, i like letting ppl know i appreciate tweets

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

I just fave yours

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

iirc tweetdeck DOES have a function explicitly for compiling / aggregating selected tweets (called either 'collections' or 'custom timelines' it's confusing) so there has been an effort to meet that need but afaict it never caught on?

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

i used to not fav and tbh imo twitter wld be better w only RTs

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

but RTs don't imply endorsement, faves surely do

bwahaha

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

RTs mean i wld fuck the tweet favs mean i am in love with it

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

they need a kill button

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

otm

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

all social media site shd have a kill button and when u push it the person dies irl

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

Was using RT as bookmark (as in any tweets that had an interesting link but didn't have time to read at the moment I came across it).

Faves were things I could see I liked, or as a full-stop to a convo - this is fine, nothing more to be said.

Goes without saying the outrage is just #internet

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

the only way to interact with tweets should be a hexadecimal rating labelled FEEL

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

I was thinking u would murder the tweet but you might be on to something

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

yea remember how the google logo redesign ruined all our lives? me neither

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

i stopped using google now i just shout into a coffee cup

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

facebook announced they have a billion daily users imo mark zuckerberg shd be assassinated he flew too close to the sun

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

i use RTs for signal boosting or sharing joeks, sometimes they're good for sharing worthwhile responses to something you said that wouldn't otherwise be seen by your followers, otherwise i use it in a 'i wish i had tweeted this' way

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

I use tweetbot with the iOS share sheet function if I want to save tweets. Mostly with pocket.

Jeff, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Za4NAWF.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

The custom Twitter emojis for livetweeting TV shows / live events way more grating than hearts imho

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah imo the worst thing twitter has done to their product is just keep adding more crap

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

tweet : fav ratio basically the most dependable metric i have for judging character

crime breeze (schlump), Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

I should tweet more, only tweeted like 5k times and been a member since November 2006

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link

full disclosure: patron sailor's tweets where I do really mean *heart* button.

But most of the time, I starred stuff as an armchair curator of what's enlivening this world wide web of ours. And I did look at everyone else's star's to find cool shit. Ned Raggett was an excellent source.

Now all his hearts are gonna be personal stuff about sunsets, not about cool record stores being burned to the ground, etc.

pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link

now if u want it done u have to burn the cool record store to the ground yrself

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link

tweet : fav ratio basically the most dependable metric i have for judging character

idgi, how does one judge based on this

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

i have never looked at ppls favs before suspect its a p uncommon behaviors, heres a good article abt it on maxs new blog tho http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/guys-we-can-see-you-liking-sexy-instagram-pics.html

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

btw i tried it out and found someone faving hot teens pics and they were weed themed hot teens lmao

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

not the same but one day my gf grilled me when she saw a selfie by @_blotty (hot girl on twitter) on my tl over my shoulder, like "why do you follow her?!" and i was like uhhhhh

flopson, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

can't wait for ilx to find my instagram faves, the endless stream of hot bikini pics

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

Welcome to Following, New York Magazine's new limited-run site about internet culture, social media, and the many weird and fascinating things people do online.

could someone explain what 'limited-run' means in this context?

George W. Lucas (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link

popup

j., Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

it's only running for like a month

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

I looked at the instagram likes of people I follow and was pleasantly surprised there was no hot teen pics but otoh there were a lot of boring grams being liked

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

i RT a lot and almost never fav/like anything -- at any given moment i have a small number of favs that are usually things i just want to bookmark, or a rare instance where i want to give positive feedback but don't want to RT or have nothing to say in response.

some dude, Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

pro tip: if you want to keep a list of hot instagram pics, have a pervo friend with instagram who you message occasionally and say "whoa check out these hot pics". then when you want to see hot pics, you look at their faves.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

xps thx

George W. Lucas (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

can't wait for ilx to find my instagram faves, the endless stream of hot bikini pics

― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:03 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

We'll never find them if they're not on Flickr.

pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

;-)

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

funny you mention that, a friend mentioned flickr was over a decade old and I spent some time browsing through pics yesterday

time flies

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/11/conversation-smoosh-twitter-decay/412867/?single_page=true

Bonnie Stewart writes:

"I think visibility has a lot to do with it. Media surveillance of Twitter to create (not just disseminate) news, the way hashtags allow strangers to gather and galvanize over areas of shared interest, the fact that the stream or feed is made up of a constant flow of discrete speech acts with limited context […]—all these things made it feel like a powder keg in hot weather a year ago.

Now, it’s just Twitter. It’s a space where all contexts are collapsed and all ideas can be mob-amplified or end up pulled for a Buzzfeed article. And I’ve adjusted accordingly and I am careful about what I say and some of that is good because frankly the world does not need to hear me pronounce on every single thing I don’t know much about. Twitter’s affordances still render it powerful—but that very power and capacity to curry visibility, both within its own space and within broader media spaces, also render it challenging."

In the final paragraphs of this article, let me assert something I have very little data to support: At some point early last year, the standard knock against Twitter—which had long ceased to be “I don’t want to know what someone’s eating for lunch”—became “I don’t want everyone to see what I have to say.” The public knows about conversation smoosh, and that constitutes, I think, a major problem for Twitter the Company. New products like Moments—which collects tweets, images, and video into little summaries—are not going to fix that.

I’m not sure anything can fix it, honestly. But I wonder if Twitter can’t arrange a de-smooshing, at least a little bit, by creating more forms of private-ness on the site. Separating the private and the public could, in turn, delineate “speech-like” and “print-like” tweets. Twitter’s offered locked accounts for a long time, but it has always been default public. (For a few early years, a pane on Twitter.com displayed every tweet.) Making it so an individual tweet’s publicness can be toggled on or off might help users feel more comfortable spending time there. And pushing new users toward secret accounts that can toggle individual tweets public might even allay some of their fears.

Or maybe nothing can be done.

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 6 November 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link

—all these things made it feel like a powder keg in hot weather a year ago.

Now, it’s just Twitter.

lol when i joined twitter one year ago everyone was writing shit like this. its like the thinkpiece equiv of youtube comments about back in the day

flopson, Friday, 6 November 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

that makes sense, as the subtitle says: "The social network fundamentally changed in early 2014. And that’s causing big problems for the company."

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 6 November 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link


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