full disclosure i have only like 9k+ tweets but 43k+ favs/likes
why because engagement
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link
why because you have good tweets
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link
imo the "favorite" thing was envisioned as a bookmark, a list for you, not for the favorited person. once users started using it as a sort of facebook-style "like" then it became a token of appreciation for the original writer
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, November 5, 2015 9:37 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well...it was always going to be used that way as long as people can see that people favorited/liked their tweet, and who did it, and how many.
― some dude, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link
which reminds me, i only just noticed recently that it's sometimes possible to not see who favorited a tweet, if it's a locked account and you don't follow them. and i get that some people want privacy but it's kind of frustrating -- if it's the same person favoriting my tweet every time that happens, it'd be nice to know who it is and request permission to follow them!
― some dude, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link
mh i mean i've given out 43k+ stars that have since morphed into exploding hearts, i like letting ppl know i appreciate tweets
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link
I just fave yours
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link
iirc tweetdeck DOES have a function explicitly for compiling / aggregating selected tweets (called either 'collections' or 'custom timelines' it's confusing) so there has been an effort to meet that need but afaict it never caught on?
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link
i used to not fav and tbh imo twitter wld be better w only RTs
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link
but RTs don't imply endorsement, faves surely do
bwahaha
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link
RTs mean i wld fuck the tweet favs mean i am in love with it
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link
they need a kill button
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link
otm
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link
all social media site shd have a kill button and when u push it the person dies irl
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link
Was using RT as bookmark (as in any tweets that had an interesting link but didn't have time to read at the moment I came across it).
Faves were things I could see I liked, or as a full-stop to a convo - this is fine, nothing more to be said.
Goes without saying the outrage is just #internet
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link
the only way to interact with tweets should be a hexadecimal rating labelled FEEL
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
I was thinking u would murder the tweet but you might be on to something
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link
yea remember how the google logo redesign ruined all our lives? me neither
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link
i stopped using google now i just shout into a coffee cup
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
facebook announced they have a billion daily users imo mark zuckerberg shd be assassinated he flew too close to the sun
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link
i use RTs for signal boosting or sharing joeks, sometimes they're good for sharing worthwhile responses to something you said that wouldn't otherwise be seen by your followers, otherwise i use it in a 'i wish i had tweeted this' way
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link
I use tweetbot with the iOS share sheet function if I want to save tweets. Mostly with pocket.
― Jeff, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Za4NAWF.png
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link
The custom Twitter emojis for livetweeting TV shows / live events way more grating than hearts imho
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link
yeah imo the worst thing twitter has done to their product is just keep adding more crap
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
tweet : fav ratio basically the most dependable metric i have for judging character
― crime breeze (schlump), Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
I should tweet more, only tweeted like 5k times and been a member since November 2006
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link
full disclosure: patron sailor's tweets where I do really mean *heart* button.
But most of the time, I starred stuff as an armchair curator of what's enlivening this world wide web of ours. And I did look at everyone else's star's to find cool shit. Ned Raggett was an excellent source.
Now all his hearts are gonna be personal stuff about sunsets, not about cool record stores being burned to the ground, etc.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link
now if u want it done u have to burn the cool record store to the ground yrself
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
idgi, how does one judge based on this
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
i have never looked at ppls favs before suspect its a p uncommon behaviors, heres a good article abt it on maxs new blog tho http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/guys-we-can-see-you-liking-sexy-instagram-pics.html
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
btw i tried it out and found someone faving hot teens pics and they were weed themed hot teens lmao
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link
not the same but one day my gf grilled me when she saw a selfie by @_blotty (hot girl on twitter) on my tl over my shoulder, like "why do you follow her?!" and i was like uhhhhh
― flopson, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link
can't wait for ilx to find my instagram faves, the endless stream of hot bikini pics
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link
Welcome to Following, New York Magazine's new limited-run site about internet culture, social media, and the many weird and fascinating things people do online.
could someone explain what 'limited-run' means in this context?
― George W. Lucas (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link
popup
― j., Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link
it's only running for like a month
― mookieproof, Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link
I looked at the instagram likes of people I follow and was pleasantly surprised there was no hot teen pics but otoh there were a lot of boring grams being liked
― you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
i RT a lot and almost never fav/like anything -- at any given moment i have a small number of favs that are usually things i just want to bookmark, or a rare instance where i want to give positive feedback but don't want to RT or have nothing to say in response.
― some dude, Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link
pro tip: if you want to keep a list of hot instagram pics, have a pervo friend with instagram who you message occasionally and say "whoa check out these hot pics". then when you want to see hot pics, you look at their faves.
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link
xps thx
― George W. Lucas (diamonddave85), Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:03 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
We'll never find them if they're not on Flickr.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link
;-)
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
funny you mention that, a friend mentioned flickr was over a decade old and I spent some time browsing through pics yesterday
time flies
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/11/conversation-smoosh-twitter-decay/412867/?single_page=true
Bonnie Stewart writes:"I think visibility has a lot to do with it. Media surveillance of Twitter to create (not just disseminate) news, the way hashtags allow strangers to gather and galvanize over areas of shared interest, the fact that the stream or feed is made up of a constant flow of discrete speech acts with limited context […]—all these things made it feel like a powder keg in hot weather a year ago.Now, it’s just Twitter. It’s a space where all contexts are collapsed and all ideas can be mob-amplified or end up pulled for a Buzzfeed article. And I’ve adjusted accordingly and I am careful about what I say and some of that is good because frankly the world does not need to hear me pronounce on every single thing I don’t know much about. Twitter’s affordances still render it powerful—but that very power and capacity to curry visibility, both within its own space and within broader media spaces, also render it challenging."In the final paragraphs of this article, let me assert something I have very little data to support: At some point early last year, the standard knock against Twitter—which had long ceased to be “I don’t want to know what someone’s eating for lunch”—became “I don’t want everyone to see what I have to say.” The public knows about conversation smoosh, and that constitutes, I think, a major problem for Twitter the Company. New products like Moments—which collects tweets, images, and video into little summaries—are not going to fix that.I’m not sure anything can fix it, honestly. But I wonder if Twitter can’t arrange a de-smooshing, at least a little bit, by creating more forms of private-ness on the site. Separating the private and the public could, in turn, delineate “speech-like” and “print-like” tweets. Twitter’s offered locked accounts for a long time, but it has always been default public. (For a few early years, a pane on Twitter.com displayed every tweet.) Making it so an individual tweet’s publicness can be toggled on or off might help users feel more comfortable spending time there. And pushing new users toward secret accounts that can toggle individual tweets public might even allay some of their fears.Or maybe nothing can be done.
"I think visibility has a lot to do with it. Media surveillance of Twitter to create (not just disseminate) news, the way hashtags allow strangers to gather and galvanize over areas of shared interest, the fact that the stream or feed is made up of a constant flow of discrete speech acts with limited context […]—all these things made it feel like a powder keg in hot weather a year ago.
Now, it’s just Twitter. It’s a space where all contexts are collapsed and all ideas can be mob-amplified or end up pulled for a Buzzfeed article. And I’ve adjusted accordingly and I am careful about what I say and some of that is good because frankly the world does not need to hear me pronounce on every single thing I don’t know much about. Twitter’s affordances still render it powerful—but that very power and capacity to curry visibility, both within its own space and within broader media spaces, also render it challenging."
In the final paragraphs of this article, let me assert something I have very little data to support: At some point early last year, the standard knock against Twitter—which had long ceased to be “I don’t want to know what someone’s eating for lunch”—became “I don’t want everyone to see what I have to say.” The public knows about conversation smoosh, and that constitutes, I think, a major problem for Twitter the Company. New products like Moments—which collects tweets, images, and video into little summaries—are not going to fix that.
I’m not sure anything can fix it, honestly. But I wonder if Twitter can’t arrange a de-smooshing, at least a little bit, by creating more forms of private-ness on the site. Separating the private and the public could, in turn, delineate “speech-like” and “print-like” tweets. Twitter’s offered locked accounts for a long time, but it has always been default public. (For a few early years, a pane on Twitter.com displayed every tweet.) Making it so an individual tweet’s publicness can be toggled on or off might help users feel more comfortable spending time there. And pushing new users toward secret accounts that can toggle individual tweets public might even allay some of their fears.
Or maybe nothing can be done.
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 6 November 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
—all these things made it feel like a powder keg in hot weather a year ago.
Now, it’s just Twitter.
lol when i joined twitter one year ago everyone was writing shit like this. its like the thinkpiece equiv of youtube comments about back in the day
― flopson, Friday, 6 November 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link
that makes sense, as the subtitle says: "The social network fundamentally changed in early 2014. And that’s causing big problems for the company."
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 6 November 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
From another message board:
The problem with letting Twitter be Twitter is that Twitter took money on the promise of being something other that just Twitter.Or to put it in analogy form. You give me $500,000 to buy you a Ferrari and I give you a Toyota Corolla.You complain that I haven't held up my end of the bargain and I point out that the Corolla is a perfectly fine car that can get you from point a to point b and even has some strengths when compared to the Ferrari, so why are you complaining?That's the point Twitter is at right now. They took the money to be something other than what they are right now. If Twitter wants to be just Twitter, that's fine, but you'll need to cut their 20 Billion market cap down to somewhere around a 3-4 Billion market cap, I don't have a model with me right now.
Or to put it in analogy form. You give me $500,000 to buy you a Ferrari and I give you a Toyota Corolla.
You complain that I haven't held up my end of the bargain and I point out that the Corolla is a perfectly fine car that can get you from point a to point b and even has some strengths when compared to the Ferrari, so why are you complaining?
That's the point Twitter is at right now. They took the money to be something other than what they are right now. If Twitter wants to be just Twitter, that's fine, but you'll need to cut their 20 Billion market cap down to somewhere around a 3-4 Billion market cap, I don't have a model with me right now.
― my harp and me (Eazy), Friday, 6 November 2015 21:58 (eight years ago) link
well i've got a model waiting for me so i'll just say this
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 November 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link
o shit we're expecting startups to be worth their market capitalization now?
― mookieproof, Friday, 6 November 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, November 5, 2015 12:43 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i guess i mean that tweeting is talking & faving is listening.
― crime breeze (schlump), Saturday, 7 November 2015 08:34 (eight years ago) link