Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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yeah and the melody is kind of slack, which of course means that in joan baez's version she has to oversing even more than usual

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

i kind of reflexively winced just thinking of that btw

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link

lol.

Not a big fan of her singing or guitar playing. That Fred Astaire idea of making it look easy never seemed to catch on with her. Mimi, on the other hand...

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

Haven't heard the Baez version, but can imagine. Although I do like her sometimes when she isn't overdoing the vibrato, which was pretty often in the 60s (liked that Steve Earle-produced album several years ago; of all people, Steve Earle helping her get her vox together!). Some of the 70s albums were okay, and liked her in the 60s when she got a bit more down to earth. "Farewell Angelina" can be good lesser Dylan---it really was a scribbled goodbye note, and/or maybe a tease (playing hard to get?). Liked his version, and Mellencamp's, on his fun covers collection, Rough Harvest. From my review:
that Pied Piper glint in Dylan's (Bootleg Series box) "Farewell Angelina" ain't here, probably because Mellen figures we'll never get out of this world alive, so rather than tease, he takes us on a merry-go-round tour of the song.

dow, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

farewell angelina always just makes me put on angelina.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link

Too bad the other side of Baez's personality doesn't come across on record---like when she used to flash dead-on parodies of Dylan in her concerts, and zing him in her memoirs and interviews for Dylan bios.

dow, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link

like when she used to flash dead-on parodies of Dylan in her concerts

saw her do this once, she does it well

sleeve, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

xxp i might even say that "angelina" is my favorite dylan song - that thing is unbelievable.

tylerw, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link

Love the part in No Direction Home where Baez talks about Bob hearing her version of "Love Is Just A Four-Letter Word" on the radio and he says, "Hey, this is pretty good!" She goes, "You wrote the thing, you fuckin' dope!"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/rXfiyxD.jpg

If it doesn't reproduce, click on it to see Box Set #527!

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link

goddamn it!
xp it's too bad this set doesn't have a dylan version of love is just a 4 letter word! i think that was rumored.

tylerw, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link

I clicked on it, it did nowt.

Mark G, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link

works for me. looks HEAVY.

tylerw, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link

it was SO heavy to carry home from work, it's 15" x 15" x 6"....waiting a little before i lift the lid, let the excitement build. I'll post another 1 or 2 if there is interest...

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link

As you can see it comes with a big boy Da Buddha vaporizer (I kid)

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link

xxxxpost Yeah, she's pretty salty in Hajdu's Positively 4th Street, and in Rolling Stone's coverage of Rolling Thunder Review. She finally agrees to get on the bus when assured a proper stipend. ("I dunno, we're not dealing with the most stable personalities here--what if Ramblin' Jack decides he wants to go live in a boxcar when we're playing the hardcore folkie places?") Then Dylan comes sidling up, "with a collector's glint in his eye": "Hey you gonna sing that song, yknow---" "What song?" "Aw yknow that song,,,I heard it on the radio the other day---" (reporter picks up that they're referring to the recent "Diamonds and Rust") "You mean," she grabs him by the hair at the back of his neck, looks him hard in the eye,"that song I wrote about my husband?"

dow, Thursday, 5 November 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link

http://iagogaldston.imgur.com/all/

I made some snaps of the box set if anyone is interested. The whole thing is incredible but the fetish Powerball is an actual 35mm strip of the release print of Don't Look Back. Completely over the top.

Iago Galdston, Friday, 6 November 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link

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schlep and back trio (anagram), Friday, 6 November 2015 08:35 (eight years ago) link

they were an hour ago! looked good

xp dow: where's that story from? hilarious stuff!

niels, Friday, 6 November 2015 09:00 (eight years ago) link

haha, this thing is dylan nerd heaven

tylerw, Friday, 6 November 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

The "Diamonds and Rust" story is apparently told in her memoir and quoted in Wikipedia.

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 November 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

^^IIRC, it was also in the big tour report in Rolling Stone.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 November 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

what's this mystery box????

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 November 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link

kind of crazy that in the midst of multiple attempts at "on the road again," they knock out "maggie's farm" in one take. boom.

tylerw, Friday, 6 November 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

xxpost, yeah, I was just reciting that as remembered, glad it's online--thought it might have been written by another of the Stone's Rolling Thunder correspondents, Larry Sloman, dubbed "Ratso" by some of the touring minstrels (he was also assigned to walking Dylan's dog)(Ratso pronounced Lou Reed's Berlin "The Sargent Pepper's of the Seventies," which sounds about right; the mid-70s, anyway, unless it was Tonight's The Night).

dow, Friday, 6 November 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

kind of crazy that in the midst of multiple attempts at "on the road again," they knock out "maggie's farm" in one take. boom.
--tylerw

Yeah the track lists show some mind boggling stuff. There are single recording dates where you just can't believe he churned out five or six final versions, unreal

Iago Galdston, Friday, 6 November 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link

Saw the vinyl at Amoeba today. Three LPs for $90? No thank you!

austinato (Austin), Friday, 6 November 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link

xp yeah -- and some iconic moments that are just total on-the-fly improvs, like hearing them deciding how to start "subterranean homesick blues"...

tylerw, Friday, 6 November 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link

which one of you fools is gonna give me a copy of this cuz no way am I paying for it

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link

Three LPs for $90?

Huh...so Bob at least borrowed one idea from Neil Young.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:57 (eight years ago) link

Haha.

austinato (Austin), Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link

So there is a Ponos version?

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 November 2015 02:05 (eight years ago) link

I'm 10 minutes in to the first disc. You must go buy this. Jaw dropping.

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 7 November 2015 02:27 (eight years ago) link

which one of you fools is gonna give me a copy of this cuz no way am I paying for it
--Οὖτις

Bernie stans only, dude, sorry

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 7 November 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link

lol Tarfumes

sleeve, Saturday, 7 November 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

Is there a picture of Al Gorgoni somewhere in that thing?

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 November 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link

Speaking of Rolling Thunder, how's the Bootleg Series collection? I like the Hard Rain LP.

Hadn't seen this before: good bio of Tom Wilson, with lots of cool quotes from his clients and others:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/remembering-bob-dylan-velvet-undergrounds-pioneering-producer-20151104?page=6

dow, Sunday, 8 November 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link

Oh man dow, you need to get that Rolling Thunder Revue thingy right away. Hard Rain is a like a watered down version of what they did with the highlights discs on the bootleg series (and I like Hard Rain more than most, it seems). It's probably my second favorite of the entire series, after the '66 concert.

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 8 November 2015 03:19 (eight years ago) link

seconded, the rolling thunder bootleg series is a blast

balls, Sunday, 8 November 2015 03:37 (eight years ago) link

Thirded. Totally dig that Rolling Thunder thingumybob, which I started listening partly because of reviews on this thread, thanks guys. Also saw in some bios, and on this and other threads that Hard Rain is from the second leg or incarnation of the tour, I think, which just couldn't recapture the magical mix of the first one. There is a funny quote in the Clinton Heylin bio from Kinky Friedman, who replaced Ramblin' Jack Elliot, I believe to the effect that what he learned on that tour was "there is only one step from the limo to the gutter."

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 November 2015 03:40 (eight years ago) link

Elliott

Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 November 2015 03:41 (eight years ago) link

Yes, Hard Rain is not actually from the proper Rolling Thunder Revue. But, pretty darn close, in any case.

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 8 November 2015 03:44 (eight years ago) link

Did some laundry while listening to the Sampler on Spotify. Folding clothes went along well with the peppier "Leopardskin Pillbox Hat."

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Monday, 9 November 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link

that 'leopardskin pillbox hat' on the sampler is kinda hilarious, damn near a spike jones tune or something

balls, Monday, 9 November 2015 03:25 (eight years ago) link

anyone know if he's done 'visions of johanna' live w/ a similar approach to that on the sampler? the other cuts were interesting or entertaining, they gave me fresh ears, but that's the one that really made me sit up and go 'holy shit'. i think if i came across him unaware doing that live circa say before the flood it would've blown my mind.

balls, Monday, 9 November 2015 03:29 (eight years ago) link

to my knowledge he's never really strayed too far from the blonde on blonde arrangement of "visions" -- he's done it solo obviously, but never really radically re-imagined it.

tylerw, Monday, 9 November 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

Anyone else who bought the 18CD one having trouble with the digital download? Unbelievable, for 600 bucks!

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 15 November 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link

Anyone else who bought the 18CD one having trouble with the digital download?

niels, Monday, 16 November 2015 08:41 (eight years ago) link

but sry to hear that

not much buzz around this record is there? have not been able to hear it all myself yet...

anyway, I guess it was suggested upthread that this is less a revelation (1-3, Tell Tale Signs, Another SP) more a documentation (whitmark, basement tapes) type bootleg

niels, Monday, 16 November 2015 08:46 (eight years ago) link


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