in the UK they shaved some seconds from 2 scenes to get a 12A, i'm thinking one musta been the eyeball-popper.
― piscesx, Sunday, 8 November 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link
This movie kinda convinced me that I'm ready for a return to batshit, balls out Bond movies.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 November 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link
Remember when these movies had tons of random agents and characters, and when they were overtly funny and witty?
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 9 November 2015 00:00 (eight years ago) link
but everyone moans when they get too silly, and this is the essential Bond quandary! the lows of the Moore era (Jaws running in slo-mo with his girlfriend at the end of Moonraker, "Hiss off" to a snake in Octopussy etc etc) and the windsurfing Brosnan.. oh man.
i think the Craig 4 have been as good a 'linked' run of popcorn movies as i've ever seen and i hope they do no more in case they spoil it.
― piscesx, Monday, 9 November 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link
i could handle one more
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 November 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link
def needed more Belucci but I feel that way about most films
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 9 November 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link
anyone else wonder during the entire last section if he was, in fact, face-blind and the portraits he encountered meant to mock him all looked the same? everyone else either spoke to him first or was very recognizable via voice/smell/size
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 9 November 2015 01:03 (eight years ago) link
First three Craig bonds took my money and had their way with me over a cumulative ten hours or so of fun-free overly-expositioned SRS BZNESS griefy mummy issues thug but srsly u gotta get wise sometime and fuck the nolanisation of bond
ps its been done by Dalton, and it didn't take all fucking day either.
― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Monday, 9 November 2015 01:13 (eight years ago) link
xpost i kinda wondered
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 November 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link
tell you what's odd.. Skyfall had zero connection to the previous 2 (aside from the characters) mainly i guess because they wanted to have no obvious link to Quantum. but this one has all kinds of .. elements that tie up loose ends from *all 3* of the Dan Craig films. it's weird. soon as you see Vesper *and* Javier in the credits it's like 'woaah WTF'. i wonder if the writing guys had originally wanted the new Mr White scenes and suchlike, in Skyfall but someone poo-pooed it.
― piscesx, Monday, 9 November 2015 01:28 (eight years ago) link
At least White was in Casino Royale and a dangling loose end from Quantum's introduction. Feel like they deliberately ignored Quantum as much as possible because, well, it was awful
Also I suspect you're right about Skyfall, they seemingly intentionally cut ties to Quantum, which was annoying considering how the movie ended so open
But what do they even tie up from the other three films, really? Kind felt like the villain in Scream 3 - the guy YOU NEVER KNEW was there from BEFORE the beginning and it turns out he was responsible for EVERYTHING!
― Nhex, Monday, 9 November 2015 01:44 (eight years ago) link
I must be the only person who couldn't stand Skyfall, in large part because of the Adele song (sorry).
Really though, no more backstory please, no more connective tissue between episodes, etc. ENOUGH. Spectre "tying together the loose ends" felt super perfunctory.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 9 November 2015 02:00 (eight years ago) link
Also I would dig a movie entirely about Mr White's life more than Spectre itself
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 9 November 2015 02:01 (eight years ago) link
Like I saw the movie Friday and was on the fence about it, some good and some bad, but then when I sat down to write a review today all my bile came up
idk, it had most of the things I wanted from a Bond movie & for a Craig joint it was pretty fun. Not giddy but more enjoyable than the usual grim tone
Exotic cold open! Car chase through Rome! Imposing henchman!Alps & a plane chase!Train fight! Villain + ACTUAL lairCat!
etc
I am more than happy with it & def bump this well above Skyfall
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 November 2015 02:57 (eight years ago) link
Mr. White all radiation-poisoned, paranoid, and hiding in a basement in the middle of snowy nowhere was a nice scene
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 9 November 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link
Helicopter scene made me wince whenever the copter started looking like it was going to take out hundreds of civilians
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 9 November 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link
$73 M in North America this weekend to Peanuts' $45 M
Why It’s Time to Retire James Bond (As We Know Him)
The 24th Bond film, ‘Spectre,’ is in theaters this Friday. And it’s very, very lame.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/07/why-it-s-time-to-retire-james-bond-as-we-know-it.html
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
Saw this Friday – that Daily Beast review is pretty much spot-on.
― phở intellectual (WilliamC), Monday, 9 November 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link
isnt mgm's bond contract up? pretty sure its all gonna get rebooted once that happens.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 9 November 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link
he warns Scarlett Johansson off in pretty much exactly those terms
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 15 November 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
I almost mentioned that, but wondered if that was supposed to be funny.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 16 November 2015 09:49 (eight years ago) link
Much prettier than ScarJo imo
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 16 November 2015 10:09 (eight years ago) link
Opinion duly weighted.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 16 November 2015 11:41 (eight years ago) link
thought she looked a lot like naomi watts in the train scene
― niels, Monday, 16 November 2015 12:24 (eight years ago) link
minus 50% in N America this weekend
will likely be outgrossed by The Martian
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 November 2015 12:52 (eight years ago) link
Sounds good.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 November 2015 12:54 (eight years ago) link
Saw it yesterday. About 40 minutes of fun rattling around inside 2 1/2 hours of pointlessness. When Bond says "It's not over" to Girl, as they're walking out of the Villain's Lair, my wife and I both groaned out loud. Then later, when he's creeping through the abandoned HQ from Skyfall and passes a boat, I immediately thought, "Fuck, there's still a boat chase coming?"
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 16 November 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link
at least they didn't jump over j.w. pepper
mendes's two movies seem determined to resurrect every element of the old format, which i consider a mistake, but it's keeping in line with recent blockbusters (star trek, star wars, terminator, jurassic x, etc.)
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Monday, 16 November 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link
I think you can rest assured that these are not films where the director makes all the decisions
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 November 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
yeah, this is probably stating the obvious but there's some funky self-referentiality going on between new movie and old movies and media coverage and audience interaction etc. that made me think baudrillard could have written a hilarious essay on spectre
― niels, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:06 (eight years ago) link
was hyped for this, but it never quite hit its stride until the scenes with lea sedoux. the self referential stuff never quite added up to much, dont think i needed ANOTHER film (or have there been less than i think?) where bond is going rogue - cant he just have normal missions? and belluci was in it for like 5 mins, which was weird (also her performance seemed quite terrible). it was a fun watch, but i would like a bond film that sort of feels like it coheres a bit more, the first 30 mins or so seemed to be quite choppy.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:55 (eight years ago) link
also, chris waltz was underused. he was more villainous in tim burtons big eyes!
As I said above, I'm not sure that the canon-wanking (including a lot of Waltz's character - based on not one but two book characters!) is for any actual audience.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link
saw thus yesterday, thought it was poor enough. waltz is basically austin powers level. the actual evil plot and the james bond solo run didn't really combine that well - it felt weird for bond to just arrive at a base and get captured and tortured. what did he think would happen? he just walked in.
there were some good scenes, agree thay lea sedoux was great - the train scene was really good. most of the action sequences were good too. there were a few ludicrous and/or camp bits but i guess they felt in the spirit of the classic bond movies.
also felt like there were a lot of dumb parts, like i realise suspension of disbelief is important for all blockbusters, but just silly moments, eg lea sedoux just removed her own gag off her head at the end.
lastly, dunno if it was the cinema i saw this in, but loads of the dialogue was really garbled i thought.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link
also i know its not a serious political movie or anything, but they could have fleshed out the motive for the plot just a bit...
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:34 (eight years ago) link
daniel craig should give it a break now though - he looks genuinely tired of it, or maybe just tired...
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link
haha I was reminded of Austin Powers too once they got to the volcano lair and Waltz dressed as dr. Evil (makes sense since Evil was 70s Blofeld spoof, again I wish there was an idiosyncratix Baudrillard riff on this)
how about the boat chasing a helicopteror the evil trafficking/medicine/terrorist conglomerate meeting eyes wide shut style etc etc lots of silliness idd
― niels, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link
the monica bellucci sex scene was pretty stupid too - i'd need to see the script cos i can't remember it exactly, but i remember feeling it was maybe one line away from descending into total farce.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link
"lots of silliness"
yet not nearly enough really.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
true, if they'd really committed to being over the top, it'd have made some scenes make more sense
you have christoph waltz and he's torturing james bond for pure spite, he could have really cut loose and gone all the way
i started rewatching 'on her majesty's secret service' last night and it's full of ridiculous moments but the editing during the fights is excellent, especially for the time. someone really put some work into the cuts. and telly savalas is both menacing and ridiculous, just such a charismatic dude
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link
I don't think turning this movie into a Moore-era flick would improve it.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
That was the Lazenby film!
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link
never go full Moore-era
It might, only because the Moore-era movies were 15-20 minutes shorter than the Craig-era ones (except for Quantum, which is one of the shortest movies in the series).
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link
this was just a middle of the road bond movie really. the last one was clearly some sort of high water mark for 00s bond.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link
no
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link
turning james bond into nolan-era batman isn't a high water mark
the last one was clearly some sort of high water mark for 00s bond.
Ha ha, no. The series has been tumbling downhill since Casino Royale.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link
xp It totally was, dawg
― Nhex, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link