$73 M in North America this weekend to Peanuts' $45 M
Why It’s Time to Retire James Bond (As We Know Him)
The 24th Bond film, ‘Spectre,’ is in theaters this Friday. And it’s very, very lame.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/07/why-it-s-time-to-retire-james-bond-as-we-know-it.html
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 November 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
Saw this Friday – that Daily Beast review is pretty much spot-on.
― phở intellectual (WilliamC), Monday, 9 November 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link
isnt mgm's bond contract up? pretty sure its all gonna get rebooted once that happens.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 9 November 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link
he warns Scarlett Johansson off in pretty much exactly those terms
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 15 November 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
I almost mentioned that, but wondered if that was supposed to be funny.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 16 November 2015 09:49 (eight years ago) link
Much prettier than ScarJo imo
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 16 November 2015 10:09 (eight years ago) link
Opinion duly weighted.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 16 November 2015 11:41 (eight years ago) link
thought she looked a lot like naomi watts in the train scene
― niels, Monday, 16 November 2015 12:24 (eight years ago) link
minus 50% in N America this weekend
will likely be outgrossed by The Martian
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 November 2015 12:52 (eight years ago) link
Sounds good.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 November 2015 12:54 (eight years ago) link
Saw it yesterday. About 40 minutes of fun rattling around inside 2 1/2 hours of pointlessness. When Bond says "It's not over" to Girl, as they're walking out of the Villain's Lair, my wife and I both groaned out loud. Then later, when he's creeping through the abandoned HQ from Skyfall and passes a boat, I immediately thought, "Fuck, there's still a boat chase coming?"
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 16 November 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link
at least they didn't jump over j.w. pepper
mendes's two movies seem determined to resurrect every element of the old format, which i consider a mistake, but it's keeping in line with recent blockbusters (star trek, star wars, terminator, jurassic x, etc.)
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Monday, 16 November 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link
I think you can rest assured that these are not films where the director makes all the decisions
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 November 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
yeah, this is probably stating the obvious but there's some funky self-referentiality going on between new movie and old movies and media coverage and audience interaction etc. that made me think baudrillard could have written a hilarious essay on spectre
― niels, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:06 (eight years ago) link
was hyped for this, but it never quite hit its stride until the scenes with lea sedoux. the self referential stuff never quite added up to much, dont think i needed ANOTHER film (or have there been less than i think?) where bond is going rogue - cant he just have normal missions? and belluci was in it for like 5 mins, which was weird (also her performance seemed quite terrible). it was a fun watch, but i would like a bond film that sort of feels like it coheres a bit more, the first 30 mins or so seemed to be quite choppy.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:55 (eight years ago) link
also, chris waltz was underused. he was more villainous in tim burtons big eyes!
As I said above, I'm not sure that the canon-wanking (including a lot of Waltz's character - based on not one but two book characters!) is for any actual audience.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link
saw thus yesterday, thought it was poor enough. waltz is basically austin powers level. the actual evil plot and the james bond solo run didn't really combine that well - it felt weird for bond to just arrive at a base and get captured and tortured. what did he think would happen? he just walked in.
there were some good scenes, agree thay lea sedoux was great - the train scene was really good. most of the action sequences were good too. there were a few ludicrous and/or camp bits but i guess they felt in the spirit of the classic bond movies.
also felt like there were a lot of dumb parts, like i realise suspension of disbelief is important for all blockbusters, but just silly moments, eg lea sedoux just removed her own gag off her head at the end.
lastly, dunno if it was the cinema i saw this in, but loads of the dialogue was really garbled i thought.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link
also i know its not a serious political movie or anything, but they could have fleshed out the motive for the plot just a bit...
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:34 (eight years ago) link
daniel craig should give it a break now though - he looks genuinely tired of it, or maybe just tired...
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link
haha I was reminded of Austin Powers too once they got to the volcano lair and Waltz dressed as dr. Evil (makes sense since Evil was 70s Blofeld spoof, again I wish there was an idiosyncratix Baudrillard riff on this)
how about the boat chasing a helicopteror the evil trafficking/medicine/terrorist conglomerate meeting eyes wide shut style etc etc lots of silliness idd
― niels, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link
the monica bellucci sex scene was pretty stupid too - i'd need to see the script cos i can't remember it exactly, but i remember feeling it was maybe one line away from descending into total farce.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link
"lots of silliness"
yet not nearly enough really.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
true, if they'd really committed to being over the top, it'd have made some scenes make more sense
you have christoph waltz and he's torturing james bond for pure spite, he could have really cut loose and gone all the way
i started rewatching 'on her majesty's secret service' last night and it's full of ridiculous moments but the editing during the fights is excellent, especially for the time. someone really put some work into the cuts. and telly savalas is both menacing and ridiculous, just such a charismatic dude
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link
I don't think turning this movie into a Moore-era flick would improve it.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
That was the Lazenby film!
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link
never go full Moore-era
It might, only because the Moore-era movies were 15-20 minutes shorter than the Craig-era ones (except for Quantum, which is one of the shortest movies in the series).
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link
this was just a middle of the road bond movie really. the last one was clearly some sort of high water mark for 00s bond.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link
no
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link
turning james bond into nolan-era batman isn't a high water mark
the last one was clearly some sort of high water mark for 00s bond.
Ha ha, no. The series has been tumbling downhill since Casino Royale.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link
xp It totally was, dawg
― Nhex, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link
"turning james bond into nolan-era batman isn't a high water mark"
it adapted the nolan era batman approach in a way that was better, less po-faced, and more fun than actual nolan era batman
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
"Laughable" is not the same thing as "fun."
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link
it was never laughable, nor was it as funny as some of the pre release interviews made out. that would have made it more entertaining to be honest. it never seemed to quite excel in any one area, it just did a little bit of all the things bond should do, without doing them esp amazingly.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
The bit with the rat was quite funny.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
It was amazing how similar the Blofeld "reveal" was to the way they treated Khan in Into Darkness. The whole pre-release strategy of "oh he's definitely not who you think he is" followed by the utterly anticlimactic scene where the villain utters his name and 90% of the audience goes "huh?"
Surprised that so many people are saying it picks up with Sedoux's introduction as well. Even by Bond standards her instant transformation from takes no shit independent woman to goo goo eyed love slave ("James, I'm scared") was pretty cringeworthy
― Number None, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link
Anybody else notice at her weirdo psychiatric retreat centre where Bond has just met her and it's clear the scene's been written as classic on-the-pull Bond filrt fest, and she says something like "enjoy the view?" referring to the stunning alpine vista behind her and Bond is CLEARLY meant to subtextually say "PHWOAAARRRR" on his next line but just mumbles through it. I thought that was shocking. Fair enough if Craig doesn't like the dialogue but it's up to the director to either make that moment happen that way it's supposed to, or change the line
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link
that said the whole middle section was hugely enjoyable despite the worst intentions of all involved and fuiud
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link
HEY IF WALTZ WEARS A BALD WIG I MIGHT SEE THIS EVENTUALLY
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
He wears a little tiny bald wig on one of his eyeballs, that totally counts.
― phở intellectual (WilliamC), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link
I didn't think about it but the psychiatric center is almost a callback to OHMSS too -- Blofeld was using an allergy research center w/hypnosis as cover to create brainwashed agents
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 00:43 (eight years ago) link
the aspects of Blofeld: white cat, scar over eye, bald, nehru collar jacket
guess they covered most of them
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link
00's high water mark bond (I would watch a mark bond movie) is casino royale as far as the poker game. Downwards sharply after that.
― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link
Felt like a perfectly anonymous Brosnan-era movie. Maybe The World Is Not Enough? I never ever want to see a super-hacker in a Bond movie - especially if it's Q.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 04:23 (eight years ago) link
ur insane
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 04:27 (eight years ago) link
Nah, super hackers are always terrible. Exception that proves the rule: Nathalie Emmanuel in Fast & Furious 7.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:39 (eight years ago) link
Mr Robot is a whole show about a super hacker which manages to be not terrible.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:41 (eight years ago) link
Only just, tbrr
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:46 (eight years ago) link