"lots of silliness"
yet not nearly enough really.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
true, if they'd really committed to being over the top, it'd have made some scenes make more sense
you have christoph waltz and he's torturing james bond for pure spite, he could have really cut loose and gone all the way
i started rewatching 'on her majesty's secret service' last night and it's full of ridiculous moments but the editing during the fights is excellent, especially for the time. someone really put some work into the cuts. and telly savalas is both menacing and ridiculous, just such a charismatic dude
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link
I don't think turning this movie into a Moore-era flick would improve it.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
That was the Lazenby film!
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link
never go full Moore-era
It might, only because the Moore-era movies were 15-20 minutes shorter than the Craig-era ones (except for Quantum, which is one of the shortest movies in the series).
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link
this was just a middle of the road bond movie really. the last one was clearly some sort of high water mark for 00s bond.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link
no
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link
turning james bond into nolan-era batman isn't a high water mark
the last one was clearly some sort of high water mark for 00s bond.
Ha ha, no. The series has been tumbling downhill since Casino Royale.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link
xp It totally was, dawg
― Nhex, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link
"turning james bond into nolan-era batman isn't a high water mark"
it adapted the nolan era batman approach in a way that was better, less po-faced, and more fun than actual nolan era batman
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
"Laughable" is not the same thing as "fun."
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link
it was never laughable, nor was it as funny as some of the pre release interviews made out. that would have made it more entertaining to be honest. it never seemed to quite excel in any one area, it just did a little bit of all the things bond should do, without doing them esp amazingly.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
The bit with the rat was quite funny.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
It was amazing how similar the Blofeld "reveal" was to the way they treated Khan in Into Darkness. The whole pre-release strategy of "oh he's definitely not who you think he is" followed by the utterly anticlimactic scene where the villain utters his name and 90% of the audience goes "huh?"
Surprised that so many people are saying it picks up with Sedoux's introduction as well. Even by Bond standards her instant transformation from takes no shit independent woman to goo goo eyed love slave ("James, I'm scared") was pretty cringeworthy
― Number None, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link
Anybody else notice at her weirdo psychiatric retreat centre where Bond has just met her and it's clear the scene's been written as classic on-the-pull Bond filrt fest, and she says something like "enjoy the view?" referring to the stunning alpine vista behind her and Bond is CLEARLY meant to subtextually say "PHWOAAARRRR" on his next line but just mumbles through it. I thought that was shocking. Fair enough if Craig doesn't like the dialogue but it's up to the director to either make that moment happen that way it's supposed to, or change the line
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link
that said the whole middle section was hugely enjoyable despite the worst intentions of all involved and fuiud
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link
HEY IF WALTZ WEARS A BALD WIG I MIGHT SEE THIS EVENTUALLY
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
He wears a little tiny bald wig on one of his eyeballs, that totally counts.
― phở intellectual (WilliamC), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link
I didn't think about it but the psychiatric center is almost a callback to OHMSS too -- Blofeld was using an allergy research center w/hypnosis as cover to create brainwashed agents
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 00:43 (eight years ago) link
the aspects of Blofeld: white cat, scar over eye, bald, nehru collar jacket
guess they covered most of them
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link
00's high water mark bond (I would watch a mark bond movie) is casino royale as far as the poker game. Downwards sharply after that.
― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link
Felt like a perfectly anonymous Brosnan-era movie. Maybe The World Is Not Enough? I never ever want to see a super-hacker in a Bond movie - especially if it's Q.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 04:23 (eight years ago) link
ur insane
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 04:27 (eight years ago) link
Nah, super hackers are always terrible. Exception that proves the rule: Nathalie Emmanuel in Fast & Furious 7.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:39 (eight years ago) link
Mr Robot is a whole show about a super hacker which manages to be not terrible.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:41 (eight years ago) link
Only just, tbrr
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:46 (eight years ago) link
Fair point (tho I haven't watched it) - super hackers in a film where they're just an adjunct to a filling progress bar are terrible.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:49 (eight years ago) link
At least we didn't get stupid cackling-skull graphics this time like in Skyfall.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 12:03 (eight years ago) link
(minor spoilers for Sherlock and Spectre) Kinda funny/sad that Andrew Scott pretends to be a superhacker in Sherlock when he's really got moles everywhere, but in this "spy" movie he actually manages to hack into every private camera.
― aaaaablnnn (abanana), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 12:20 (eight years ago) link
very disappointed that all possible spa hijinks were reduced to one juicing joke.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link
also, the anti-privacy villain should have been nathan barley, not moriarty.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link
haven't seen that actor in anything lately, that would have been good
honestly was disappointed that he didn't use the moriarty voice
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
I enjoyed this but I always get annoyed at the whole "SOFTWARE IS GOING ONLINE IN FIFTEEN MINUTES" trope in films.
this isn't Skynet. Couldn't they just like....turn it off even if it goes live for like 2 hours, after they've removed the imminent threat?
oh noes Moriarty saw my grandpa in the shower briefly
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 19 November 2015 00:33 (eight years ago) link
do you know what a pain it is to roll back software that's been released to production?
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 19 November 2015 01:45 (eight years ago) link
my company seems to do it every October so...
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 19 November 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link
lol u guys this was so bad
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 21 November 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link
goes sideways with the opening credits/theme and then just... keeps... going... sideways. the decade-long slide that began with the closing credits of casino royale
what a waste of bellucci and batista
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link
It was shocking yeah, but I'm not sure how much more they could have done with Batista tbf
― Number None, Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
his intro was only moment where this thing threatened to come alive, but after that it was all anonymous mustache-twirling villainy and Jaws callbacks.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link
dunno what else you expected really. The guy's not an actor. His role in GOTG was essentially based around him being terrible at saying words
― Number None, Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link
Like The Rock, the guy has a ton of charisma from his wrestling days - he can definitely be used much better. Deserves more credit for perf in GOTG IMO
― Nhex, Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link
Rock had way more conventional acting talent though.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link
i dunno christoph waltz is an actor and batista was def more watchable
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link
harsh but probably true!
― Nhex, Saturday, 21 November 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6805226/lana-del-rey-bond-song-nme-007
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 December 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
I don't like Lana Del Rey, but I'm sure could whack out a miles better Bond theme than the one we got.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link
she is so blatantly right for it. the latest album has 3/4 songs that are classic bond songs without even trying. sam smith. whatever.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Thursday, 10 December 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link
Holding out for Goldfrapp myself.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link