Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

"Just like a char-ah-tee mus-taaache--of, bacon."

Kooper: "I think, maybe, perhaps we..."

Dylan: "Don't go there!"

"Jewels and binoculars hang from the head of the mule - NOT THE ONION!"

Nashville Session Dude: "If this thing gets any longer, I won't be able to sit down again for a week!"

Dylan: "That's what she said!"

"let's listen to mac demarco"

"its lit, fam"

irl lol

got the vinyl box and it's beautiful - love the huge booklet with all those great pictures that for some reason never really show up online, essays are good too

love hearing the alternate takes, lets me hear something new in the old songs, kinda like Nick Hornby writes abt Please Crawl Out:
http://i.imgur.com/Rv7j7kj.png

but the real revelation will probably be listening to the complete sessions

hilarious that "She Belongs to Me" was announced as "Worse Than Money" - surprised to hear Dylan goofing about a song tentatively titled "uuhm... mmh.. Bank Account Blues" and then going directly into the beautiful take of "I'll Keep It with Mine"

"Damn Koop that organ lick is on fleek"

― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, November 17, 2015 2:28 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

Hey niels, where is that Hornby quote from?

took it from Google's scan of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songbook_%28Nick_Hornby_book%29

haven't read that one though, know it from Dylan Encyclopedia

Thanks very much

"The ghost of electricity howls in the bones of her face."

Joan Baez: "Literally me."
Sara: *sips tea*

anyway, I guess it was suggested upthread that this is less a revelation (1-3, Tell Tale Signs, Another SP) more a documentation (whitmark, basement tapes) type bootleg

This is my impression too. I don't think I need this much material from this period. Don't get me wrong - it's a great period - I just don't think there are enough unheard gems - mostly just interesting alternate takes. I've got a bootleg CD called "Thin Wild Mercury Music" which I'm guessing overlaps with this release. Probably the new release has better sound, but that one's enough for me.

Whoo-Hooo!
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/inside-the-restoration-of-dont-look-back-20151127

"The Donovan scene has always been read as this big takedown. Now, you can actually hear Donovan ask Dylan to play 'It's All Over Now, Baby Blue' for him — it changes the intention of the scene entirely. It's not nearly as negative! All of us in the office were watching the movie right after we put the sound track in and we suddenly, Wait...did he just request the song?!? And none of us could remember hearing that before."

I remember hearing that. Don't you?

just watched the scene and I don't hear him asking Dylan to play it. Even if he did, I don't see how that affects the takedown.

Well, the idea was that Donovan plays a nice tune. then Dylan plays something fantastic as if he's going "yeah, listen to THIS, kid"

I do hear it, I have that 2006 box set version, did you listen to it on Youtube?

I did but it was just the first versh that came up on a youtube search so admittedly it may not have been that version I saw

I also think it's the disparity in the songs that makes it a takedown, Dylan is clearly rubbing Donovan's face in it which would still be the case even if it had been a request

Well, it was always mono sound, I thought it would be a case of "now you know it's there it's easier to hear it"

I remember hearing that. Don't you?
Yup, I can hear it on the original DVD that I have, although it's barely audible. Waiting for the the blu-ray version to arrive, so I'll have to see if there's a big difference.

yeah, always heard donovan request it -- funny that they're making a thing out of it. i don't think donovan even comes across poorly in the film, the main thing that comes across in that scene for me is Dylan's overall relief that Donovan isn't really much of a threat, songwriting-wise. but i don't think dylan disliked donovan -- here they are chilling at newport a few weeks later:
http://www.rirocks.net/images/1965%2007.25%20Bob%20Dylan%202.jpg

I always thought the takedown was Dylan playing "Love Minus Zero/No Limit" after literally vibrating and squirming in place while Donovan sang. "You wanna hear a special one?"

The cutaways to Donovan during that performance are so devastating, it looks like he wants to crawl into a hole.

There is that, yes.

i don't actually read donovan's facial expression that way. he just seems full of admiration.

honestly the whole "dylan shows up donovan" thing seemed like a false fanboy story to me, like something some folks desperately wish had happened when the reality was more collegial and mundane.

It was a side-story to the movie, the "new" brit-dylan.

My highlight was "I don't want to know his name, I just want to know who he IS man!"

i don't know, he looks really bummed picking at his teeth, nursing a smoke

maybe the song just hit him in his heart

yeah i think donovan is just acting like a complete dylan fan (which he obviously was!). i mean, he's only 18 years old there!

I'm w amateurist on this particular exchange. I had of course read about it long before I got to see it. When I finally did I was nonplussed, next to the more cantankerous exchanges between Dylan and the press corps it seemed pretty inconsequential.

tbh i've never really got much of a kick out of the movie. dylan seems like he is a bad mood much of the time, most of his fans are annoying, etc. etc. the footage from "eat the document" is much more exciting, even if it has yet to find the most coherent setting.

and the music is better!

definitely. it's cinematography makes it much more frustrating though. You can hear the band ripping into it, and all you have to look at is a dimly lit closeup of the back of Dylan's head.

i don't know, i love Don't Look Back, but I do feel that for all its cinema verite-ness, it's actually a pretty skillfully put together / not entirely factual narrative.

oh sure, i wouldn't argue that point -- i just don't enjoy watching it that much. everybody is so bitchy in it!

wait, i'm confused. i think Οὖτις was referring to the cinematography in "eat the document," and tyler was referring to "don't look back"

i was talking about don't look back, yeah.
true that the eat the document performance footage is incredible ... i'd pay for a DVD of everything in the archives of that stuff.

Eat the Document has such a great opening scene - the drone buzz under the titlecard, Dylan snorting speed off the piano, looks at the camera - "have you ever heard of me?" - and then tickling the ivories for a bit

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how about 35 Blu-Rays in a big hat leopard-skin hat box with a glossy coffee-table book, a series of 35mm frames from the original footage, a DIY bob dylan footprint kit, a "Blonde on Blonde" Hot Wheels racer, and a 45 RPM record with the "judas!" cry in a lock groove, all for the low low price of $799.99?

i'm all in

ps - i've almost listened to all 18 discs! pretty fun stuff.

i feel like every last ounce of bob dylan audio tape and film footage is going to surface eventually, so you may as well start saving.

Speak to me more of this Hot Wheels racer...

the budokan rehearsals (an 12-CD set complete with pancake makeup kit)

The Complete Shot of Love Sessions (including a piece of the one true cross)

the minnesota house tape: just the hiss -- three hours of tape hiss taken from the end of the reels on which bob dylan's very first musical recordings were made

don't you guys think an EAT THE DOCUMENT dvd & blu-ray release would make as much or more money as the Bootleg Series?

it's certainly less messy than the six-disc version of the cutting edge...

aren't there two features edited from the 1966 pennebaker footage--eat the document being dylan's version, and pennebaker (sp?) having put together an alternative cut that has never been distributed?

Yes--Pennebaker's is called "You Know Something Is Happening" and it is reportedly a much more conventional fly on the wall doc.

how about 35 Blu-Rays in a big hat leopard-skin hat box with a glossy coffee-table book, a series of 35mm frames from the original footage, a DIY bob dylan footprint kit, a "Blonde on Blonde" Hot Wheels racer, and a 45 RPM record with the "judas!" cry in a lock groove, all for the low low price of $799.99?

― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, December 1, 2015 5:11 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Jealousy is so NAGL, amateurist!