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My friend thought Nina Simone was a man

sonic, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 23:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was probably 12 when that happened, actually.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 23:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also, I thought Rick Astley was butch.
The first time I heard Rick Astley, I thought "What? Did Billy Ocean get a new producer? The mix must be flat or something...he sounds 'off' somehow."
Then I saw the skinny little white guy singing on MTV...

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 00:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jimmy Scott owns this thread

Jens (brighter), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 21:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

" And Dave Fuczinski (however you spell it), the guitarist from Screaming Headless Torsoes...totally black, to my surprise. "

now i'm confused.
the double-neck guitar sportin' David Fiuczynski that i was occasionally staring at -- from the radio booth, doing a live broadcast from a jazz fest in 2000, where D.F. was perfroming with Victor Bailey's group (and wadda a shite group, except for most of Kenny Garrett's contribution) -- well, that guitar man was anything but black...

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 22:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I thought Hamid Drake was fat.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 February 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Me at 16: Oh, Stevie Ray Vaughn is white?
but he's not, totally. He's got like really white skin but really "black" features.

Dan I., Thursday, 27 February 2003 07:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, shit, maybe I've got him (Fiuczynski) confused with someone else altogether.

Once I played Fishbone for my uncle, and about three-quarters-way through the album (it was Truth and Soul) he saw the album cover and was like "No way! These dudes are black?" and I'm like "Have you been listening? Did you miss that song that went 'when you're a fly in the buttermilk, they chase ya all through the night'!?!"

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Salma Hayek is part-Lebanese? These Arabo-Latino women completely melt my brain.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 4 March 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

First time I heard 'Wuthering Heights' I pictured Kate Bush as some mad old bag.

LondonLee (LondonLee), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:04 (twenty years ago) link

i thought the eurythmics had a dude singer the first time i heard "sweet dreams." sounded kinda like the dude singer from the pet shop boys, in fact.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:05 (twenty years ago) link

When I first heard "Holiday," I thought Madonna was black. Hard to believe that it was possible to only hear a Madonna song, without an accompanying video, but for about a week it was.


Prediction: This thread will soon turn into a discussion of "what is white anyway?" Which is a good question.


I guess I'm helping it along, aren't I?

Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:29 (twenty years ago) link

wow, I thought Rick Astley was a large black man as well.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

q-lazzarus sounds like a DUDE MAN

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link

i thought the middle one out of Hanson was a girl AND i kinda fancied her/him. same goes for Brian Placebo. was pretty shocked to find out they were boys.

donny dorko, Friday, 5 March 2004 01:59 (twenty years ago) link

You can tell w/Brian now; he's got some fierce male pattern baldness going on.

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:59 (twenty years ago) link

q-lazzarus sounds like a DUDE MAN

and a white one at that! which the singer is not.
i thought the singer for cha cha cohen was a guy, but am only going on the word of my ex who claims it's a girl (never seen a pic).

Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Friday, 5 March 2004 02:41 (twenty years ago) link

Tracey Chapman owns this thread.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 5 March 2004 05:25 (twenty years ago) link

Some examples of partially-Lebanese folks: Salma Hayek, Shakira, Shannon Elizabeth, Ralph Nader, Dick Dale, nickalicious, Frank Zappa...

Frank Zappa? Italian.

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

Here's one more person who thought Rick Astley was a large black man

Joe Kay (feethurt), Friday, 5 March 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

I thought Zappa was Jewish...

no opinion, Friday, 5 March 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

Shaddap ya face... I thought Sean Paul was black

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 March 2004 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

sean paul is bi-racial (mulatto)!

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 5 March 2004 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

Well so was Bob Marley but at least he looked like a black guy

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 March 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

Isn't Sean Paul from Toronto? Or are my friends lying bastards? Or are the just stupid?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 5 March 2004 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

whenever I hear Alison Moyet, it takes me a second to realize that's not a (probably very gay) man singing.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 5 March 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

sean paul is jamaican. snow is from toronto.

(i might be wrong but it seems appropriate.)

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

when i first heard rage against the machine i thought it was fronted by a black woman

thought randy newman was black

jkld, Friday, 5 March 2004 21:02 (twenty years ago) link

I thought Batman was actually part bat. Now I know better.

dick grayson, Friday, 5 March 2004 21:10 (twenty years ago) link

The guy singing back-up on the Smithereens' "A Girl Like You". Very surprised that it wasn't a woman.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 5 March 2004 21:12 (twenty years ago) link

Casey Casem (Kasem?) and Danny Thomas (hence Marlo is at least 1/2) are also Lebanese.

nickn (nickn), Friday, 5 March 2004 21:14 (twenty years ago) link

Sophia: Jean is a lesbian.
Blanche: What's so bad about that?
Sophia: You're not surprised?
Blanche: Well I haven't known any personally but ain't Danny Thomas one?

last time I quote "The Golden Girls", I swear.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 5 March 2004 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

When I was younger I assumed a couple of those Todd Rundgren songs were sung by an black female alto.

Will (will), Friday, 5 March 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

"when i first heard rage against the machine i thought it was fronted by a black woman"

hahahahahaha, classic!

I remember being shocked to discover that Billie Myers (of Kiss The Rain fame) was a woman.

Chris Jones (Crackity Jones), Friday, 5 March 2004 21:36 (twenty years ago) link

Final, definitive word on Frank Zappa's heritage: "My ancestry is Sicilian, Greek, Arabic and French."

Oh, yeah: First few times I heard "Old Time Rock And Roll" I thought Bob Seger was black. Hard to believe there was ever a "first time" for hearing that song - one of the most tiresomely over-played ever. In fact, it's hard to recall a time when it wasn't associated with the nauseating sight of Tom Cruise dancing in his underwear. But I'm getting off the subject...

Myonga Von Bontee, Friday, 5 March 2004 21:58 (twenty years ago) link

that new girl in Shalamar, she's fine

I know most of this thread is going on voice, but the first time I saw Brother Ali at First Ave I was standing way in the back and thought "OK, burly bald white dude with formidable mic skills. Yay, Mpls has a Bubba Sparxxx!" Then I found out he's an albino African-American.

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Friday, 5 March 2004 22:07 (twenty years ago) link

I remember being shocked to discover that Billie Myers (of Kiss The Rain fame) was a woman

that's what Chris Evans said, drumroll

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 5 March 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

Holy shit I thought Savage Garden was Roxette too!

a couple years back someone played me a song from Fever by Kylie Minogue and I asked if it was something from the new Saint Etienne.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 5 March 2004 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

holy christ.
q-lazzarus totally sounds like a man, like i had no reason to think otherwise.

todd swiss (eliti), Friday, 5 March 2004 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

i thought the singer for Collette Carter was Susan Anway.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 6 March 2004 01:05 (twenty years ago) link

i thought the righteous brothers were black until just recently, when one of them died.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Saturday, 6 March 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago) link

Hell yeah, Nina Simone does reach into some pretty manly registers at times.

Some time in about 1988 I was under the impression the Pixies had one female singer with a very strange voice. I guess I only heard "Gigantic" and a bunch of Black Francis' shriekier moments before I saw a photo. Boy was my face red!

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 6 March 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

I was sure Attica Blues by Archie Shepp was sung by a woman. Well the back-up vox are ladies but I only found out the lead voice is a guy when I read the liner notes. I'm not the only one to think this, there's published reviews referencing the soulful lead lady vocals.

Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Saturday, 6 March 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

When I first heard "Numb," I thought Beth Gibbons was black because of a mix up with Morcheeba and her Billie Hollidayisms way back when. I thought Scott Herren was black.

Hanson totally own, though.

Leee the Whiney (Leee), Saturday, 6 March 2004 01:27 (twenty years ago) link

I thought Scott Herren was black.
So did I, if only because reviews I read in passing for the first album talked so much about hip-hop, and my familiarity with the name Gil Scott Heron, who is not white.

I still don't know if Pat Place is a man or woman. The photos I've seen make him/her look very androgynous.

Also, I know Dave Brubeck is white, but I've never seen photos of the backing band. Are Paul Desmond and the rest of the group black or white?

Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Saturday, 6 March 2004 01:33 (twenty years ago) link

Paul Desmond was white, dunno about the rest of the band

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Saturday, 6 March 2004 01:35 (twenty years ago) link

Also, I know Dave Brubeck is white, but I've never seen photos of the backing band. Are Paul Desmond and the rest of the group black or white?

Paul Desmond is white. If you're talking about Brubeck's group circa "Time Out", the bassist Eugene Wright is black and the drummer Joe Morello is white. The latter has the same last name as that Rage Against the Machine guitarist, don't know if they're related.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 6 March 2004 10:30 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, and here are my misconceptions:

When I first heard "Son of a Preacher Man", I thought Dusty Springfield was black.

Before I found out her name, I thought Tanita Tikaram was a man. And I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one.

I thought Company Flow was all-white, because they sounded like that.

When I first heard Slug, the Athmosphere rapper, featuring on an All Natural track, I thought he was black. Then I bought an Athmosphere LP, and changed my mind, I thought this dude has to be white. However, according to AMG he's mulatto.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 6 March 2004 10:38 (twenty years ago) link

First time I heard the Distillers, someone stuck a headphone against my ear and I thought Brodey Dalle was a man.

All Bunged Up. (Jake Proudlock), Saturday, 6 March 2004 13:14 (twenty years ago) link

I thought Gordon Gano was a woman, and not just b/c of his band's name.

Sym (shmuel), Saturday, 6 March 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link


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