"Safe" - C or D ?

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I saw Safe for the third time tonight, and actually liked it considerably more than previously. (Not "best film of the '90s"-level, though.)

I had the same reaction when I watched the beautiful Criterion Blu-ray.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 November 2015 12:12 (eight years ago) link

amateurist OTM upthread about Sirk. I still regard FFH with suspicion though.

I watch Carol on Tuesday.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 November 2015 12:17 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

i'm sick and feeling rundown and dreading a busy couple of weeks coming up so i put this on right after waking up from a nap. hadn't seen it in 9 or 10 years. such a brilliant, hypnotic, enveloping movie- i get sick a lot (tho nothing as wild as the '20th century allergy' in the movie or something like morgellons - i just have a weak immune system and get colds and flus and viruses and infections a lot)- and this movie really captures the alienation and isolation and frustration of being around healthy people while you're sick, especially if it's psychosomatic. like it becomes a rain on their parade, or your illness a cry for attention, or obviously weakness. the sound design in the first half is stunning, and haynes nails that repulsive pastel mid/late 80s aesthetic, and tho i dont find the suburban ennui commentary very interesting atm it's done very well here.

this would make a great double feature with synecdoche, new york. i saw that at the end of 2008 so i must've seen safe earlier that year, because i didn't realize peter friedman is in both (the main wrenwood guy in safe, the first doctor in synecdoche, the one that stitches caden's head and gets freaked out that caden mishears him say 'ophthalmologist' as 'neurologist'). also noticed dean norris (hank on breaking bad) plays one of the movers early in the movie.

this and carol are neck and neck for my favorite haynes movies. absolutely one of our greatest living directors, at least in america.

flappy bird, Monday, 18 December 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link

classic movie

In a slipshod style (Ross), Monday, 18 December 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

This is the best movie about AIDS, maybe the only AIDS movie with any wit.

As a Sirk pastiche, infinitely better than Far From Heaven, the pink/grey/turquoise suburban palette, the romantic yet realist recasting of Sirk's passive housewife-with-help heroine in the first act. As a queering of Sirk, far more productive than Fassbinder/Water's campness. The tragedy of domestic containment and its proximity to the tabloid/daytime vehicles of hysteria and AIDS panic. This stifling/prurient environment is v palpable in the first part of the film. V foucauldian.

Disease as "Identity," is the key observation of the film I think, and very prescient in understanding the way narratives around AIDS activism were moving in the mid-'90s.

What the film seems to understand very lucidly is the strand of individualism that characterised many of the more radical activist positions (within act-up etc) of the day. For instance, the way the film lampoons the current of embracing new-agey/alternative medical approaches by people with aids at that time, both a reaction of blind panic to something that was, pre-antiretrovirals, still without a cure, but also an attempt to remake the relationship between medicine and subject. And I think the somewhat ambiguous legacy of aids activism in shaping biomedical discourses and welfare discourses ever since, seems, well not addressed by this film, but certainly glimpsed and teasingly played out to an impressive degree.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

julianne moore is a much better jane wyman here than in far from heaven, which is blunt and fundamentally pointless I think. Only Mildred Pierce and Carol are close for me. I could never be arsed watching velvet goldmine though. I can't bear bowie or iggy pop or any of that

plax (ico), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link

his new one was pretty good, if slight. Safe and Carol are his masterpieces. although i should watch I'm Not There again

flappy bird, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link

plax, you know i love you, but FFH is both blunt and pointed.

I don't much care for glam but enjoyed Velvet Goldmine as a scandal sheet/research paper.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

yeah, its a good film, its nowhere near as good as safe. also, safe is the only one that seems to have an entirely original look, so many of his other films aspire to a pastiche of post-war technicolor, but safe finds a pictorial equivalent that is blandly "contemporary" instead of revelling in period which is comparatively dull imo

plax (ico), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

i do think safe is his only "great" film

plax (ico), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

d.p. for Safe seems to have virtually disappeared

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Nepomniaschy

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

I'd accept Safe as his greatest film, if only to sidestep any more conversation about Far From Heaven and Carol (the latter of which I still liked).

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link


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