Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Reports of some wounded. Hell will be too kind to this fuck.

:(

if only we could ban refugees so acts of terrorism wouldn't happen in the US

I'll be amazed if even one news network calls this a terrorist shooting (as they should)

otm

Three police officers and an “unknown number of civilians” have been injured in an active shooter situation near a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs on Friday, authorities said. The situation remained “very active” roughly two hours after ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/11/27/active-shooter-at-planned-parenthood-in-colorado-springs-police-and-fire-officials-say/

Shooter in custody and apparently no one killed? Sad that this is what passes for good news these days.

Yea but I'll take it.

so weird how the white mass (/attempted) murderers get captured alive

Well, that was apparently premature. At least one cop and possibly another civilian have died from their injuries.

Fuck. FUCK

At least two civilians dead, but they apparently haven't finished combing the Planned Parenthood for more possible victims due to fear of explosives being left behind by the gunman.

nyt says 3 dead, including one u of colorado policeman :(

http://gawker.com/there-are-so-many-mass-shootings-in-the-u-s-now-that-s-1744983569

my country is sick.

yeah that jumped out at me too when i read the NYT article this morning

The University of Chicago is canceling all classes and other events on its main campus Monday over online threats of gun violence.

FBI counterterrorism officials alerted the school on Sunday, the university said in a statement. They warned of online threats from an "unknown individual" that specifically mentioned a location, the campus quad, and a time, 10 a.m.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/29/457821442/university-of-chicago-cancels-monday-classes-over-threat-of-gun-violence

Lots of friends affected by that. Don't know what to think. It's one thing to get a threat, it's another to get a threat credible enough to shut things. But if you're the potential shooter, and you post somewhere about a specific time and place, and the FBI gets involved and shuts things down, then what's to stop you from just doing it again? Or not posting about it next time?

the fact that the FBI got involved and is now actively searching for you

Fingers crossed. But the fact that the FBI could not preemptively catch the guy with a 24 hour head start and instead chose to have the entire campus shut down does not give me much faith.

It isn't like he left his coordinates and cell phone number

I totally get that. But how would they be searching for him otherwise?

Of course, maybe they do know who he is and where he is/was, and are currently searching for him. That would be different. We don't know anything about the nature of the threat, other than it was serious. But unknown individual online limits potential suspects to the millions, internationally. I wonder what made it credible? Or I guess they could just be over-cautious, but that goes back to what I said before: if an anonymous online threat alone is enough to shut down the campus ...

There was a similar closure week before last in Maryland. This one was a direct threat (missing kid went home and got his rifle).

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Washington-College-Campus-in-Maryland-Remains-Closed-Tuesday-After-Safety-Concern-351034671.html

And didn't he end up wandering off somewhere to kill himself?

That's awful - I hadn't seen the update.

1 in custody in threat at University of Chicago linked to Laquan McDonald shooting
Jodi S. Cohen and Lolly Bowean
An online threat to kill 16 white male students or staff in retaliation for the shooting of Laquan McDonald forced the University of Chicago to cancel classes and close its Hyde Park campus Monday, the Tribune has learned, and one person was taken into custody in connection with the threat.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-university-of-chicago-gun-threat-met-20151130-story.html

"This is my only warning. At 10AM Monday morning, I'm going to the campus quad of the University of Chicago. I will be armed with an M-4 carbine and two desert eagles, all fully loaded. I will execute approximately 16 white male students and or staff, which is the same number of time McDonald was killed," wrote the commenter, who posted with the initials "JRD" and a Chicago Bulls logo, according to the police report. "I will then die killing any number of white policeman in the process. This is not a joke. I am to do my part and rid the world of white devils. I expect you do the same."

I will be very surprised if this is actually a black student upset over the McDonald shooting

I mean, they did arrest a guy who said he posted this, do you think they got the wrong guy?

that link doesn't say anything about his identity/ethnicity

I am gonna go out on a limb here and say that "Jabari Dean" is not a white guy

huh ok idk that link doesn't work for me or redirects somewhere else or something cuz I didn't see any info about who they arrested

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/11/30/u-chicago-cancels-monday-classes-after-gun-violence-threat/76546560/

it doesn't matter who he was or what his motives were. he doesn't represent any actual group

i think it's dumb how everyone always hopes these shooters are ideologically opposed to them, or feels the need to twist things around if it turns out that the shooters are "aligned" with them in some way. the planned parenthood guy wasn't an agent of the republican party (odious as they are), and this guy isn't an agent of the black lives matter movement. they might be motivated by "fiery rhetoric" from this source or that but they could pick that up anywhere imo, it's not the source of the problem

I just said I would be surprised, and I am

John Malvo aside, this "crazed lone sniper shooting random people" thing is waaaaaaaaaay more common with angry white guys

3xp
Except maybe failing EE students.

one thing it never is is a woman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Elementary_School_shooting_%28San_Diego%29

your spree shooting game is deep

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_University_of_Alabama_in_Huntsville_shooting#Shooter

well there was a famous song and everything

obviously this is an overwhelmingly male phenomenon, not denying that

i think it's dumb how everyone always hopes these shooters are ideologically opposed to them, or feels the need to twist things around if it turns out that the shooters are "aligned" with them in some way. the planned parenthood guy wasn't an agent of the republican party (odious as they are), and this guy isn't an agent of the black lives matter movement. they might be motivated by "fiery rhetoric" from this source or that but they could pick that up anywhere imo, it's not the source of the problem

Because as we all know, if there's one thing that never happens to minorities in this country, it's having the actions of a deranged individual credited with being an intrinsic part of their character, increasing the baseline level of harassment that defines living in this country to levels that drastically impact your ability to just live your life. There is absolutely no rational reason why any minority group would say anything like "Given what I'm already going through, I really hope this heinous individual doesn't look like me because that's going to make others think I want to do the same thing for absolutely no fucking reason." That never happens.

I realize that you will think that this sarcastic response reinforces your point. It doesn't. You can't assume everyone is being treated equally shitty or that the blowback for white people when a white guy shoots up Planned Parenthood or a movie theater even approaches the blowback against black people when someone threatens to shoot up campus or a dude shoots two of his coworkers on a live news broadcast, even in how the events are presented in the news. Some distancing is done because people don't want to face ugly parts of their own character; other distancing is done because that is how you survive living in this country. It's complete and utter horseshit and actively harmful to equate the two, in my opinion.

yeah, i didn't think of that. it makes sense for people to hope they won't get "blamed", personally, in some sense, for a thing like this. totally. and that is especially true if you are part of a targeted minority group.

i was trying to say that it doesn't make sense to draw too close a connection between these shooters and the people or movements in whose name they claim to act. like, whoever this guy was, and whatever he said, it has nothing to do with the mainstream black lives matter movement. i know right wingers will try to make that connection but that's because they are disingenuous.

i just think the violent actions of deranged people need to be seen as separate from whatever political conflicts are playing out in the larger society. these events are often enlisted in the propaganda of one group or another and i think that's a mistake

the only discussions to have are really just ones about prevention. how to keep guns from dangerous people. how to get help for people who are at risk of becoming dangerous. etc

FWIW, it sounds like the dude, who reportedly deleted his post right after he made it, also had no guns or other weapons with which to make good on his threats. Sounds so far like he made a really, really bad mistake. Thank goodness if that's all it was.

I don't think incendiary rhetoric should be totally let off the hook.

That being said there is a p big difference between, say, some of the rhetorical excesses of BLM and the outright lies and shenanigans of the Center for Medical Progress.

the latter much more successful at getting its issues addressed, obviously

oh yeah, i don't think they are comparable in any way, really. i just don't like the sloppy way these things can get folded into the discourse