OK, this i wanna hear...
― Fetty Wap Is Strong In Here (cryptosicko), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
Keith Baxter on playing Hal in Chimes
We left the intensity at the end of November, when it was certainly cold. But (Orson) had a gramophone, a wind-up gramophone with bakelite discs. When we were setting up the death of John Gielgud as the king, the gramophone was playing Lena Horne singing ‘Stormy Weather.’ Sir John said, ‘Oh I’m so cold Orson, my thighs are icy,’ Orson got a hot water bottle for him. I can’t explain to you how much laughter there was. Directors take things so seriously now. The work was serious, the performances were serious, but the atmosphere around the actors was fun.
https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/orson-welles-keith-baxter-and-chimes-at-midnight
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link
Gielgud is superb in Chimes
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link
when i last saw it it Dec 2014, friend said he saw him breathe after he died
but yes
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, January 12, 2016 2:27 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
he really is, but gielgud is seldom less than superb. one of the finest screen performances i've ever seen is gielgud in a television version of The Browning Version directed by John Frankenheimer. he's stunning as man increasingly unable to hide his inner anguish.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link
cf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w4p4GkvrJ8
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link
Jesus, this quote from J.Ro's piece on The Trial:
To anchor these feelings in one part of Welles’ life, he was 15 when his alcoholic father died of heart and kidney failure, and Welles admitted to his friend and biographer Barbara Leaming that he always felt responsible for that death. He’d followed the advice of his surrogate parents, Roger and Hortense Hill, in refusing to see Richard Welles until he sobered up, and ‘that was the last I ever saw of him….I’ve always thought I killed him….I don’t want to forgive myself. That’s why I hate psychoanalysis. I think if you’re guilty of something you should live with it.’
http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2016/06/nightmare-as-funhouse-ride-orson-welless-the-trial-2/
Hard to believe he wasn't Irish Catholic.
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 June 2016 00:30 (seven years ago) link
if only the catholics had a monopoly on self-hating guilt! they're very professional about it, though
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 20 June 2016 04:20 (seven years ago) link
practice makes perfect
it's an instinct i share
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 June 2016 11:34 (seven years ago) link
“Chimes at Midnight (1966) and The Immortal Story (1968) were the last two fiction features that Orson Welles completed,” begins R. Emmet Sweeney at Movie Morlocks. “Still to come would be the self-reflective essays of F For Fake (1973) and Filming Othello (’78), as well as the perpetually promised to-be-finished projects like The Other Side of the Wind (1970-’76), but Chimes at Midnight and The Immortal Story mark an endpoint. Both deal with aging, obsolete men living outside of their times, belonging to previous epochs. In Chimes, Welles’ Falstaff is a ruddy-cheeked representative of the Merrie England torn asunder by the War of the Roses, while his ‘Mr. Clay’ in The Immortal Story is a wealthy Macao merchant who lives inside his account books, completely cut off from the world outside. Chimes at Midnight is the capstone to Welles’s extraordinary career, while The Immortal Story is a dream-like coda. Today both have been released in essential DVD and Blu-ray editions from Criterion.”
http://moviemorlocks.com/2016/08/30/end-of-an-era-chimes-at-midnight-and-the-immortal-story/
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
The Immortal Story gets thick when Moreau and the gay bait lie in the bed for a seeming eternity, but my gad, sir, what an oddity.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link
V excited to finally get to see Chimes at Midnight
― Οὖτις, Friday, 2 September 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link
OK, got The Immortal Story out from the library. Should I be watching the English or the French version?
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Saturday, 1 October 2016 03:30 (seven years ago) link
The only difference is the soundtrack? English i'm p sure
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 04:20 (seven years ago) link
ENGLISH.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link
Replacing now broken link because J-Ro slightly reshuffled web page:https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2016/09/nightmare-as-funhouse-ride-orson-welless-the-trial/
― Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 October 2016 12:49 (seven years ago) link
Thanks guys.
I suppose it makes sense that the English version would be preferable; guess I was still haunted by how my first viewing of Herzog's Nosferatu was ruined by clicking the "English" option.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Saturday, 1 October 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link
While I didn't love it, The Immortal Story is Welles' most homoerotic film.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link
Nice use of Satie, and the sailor was yummy, but The Immortal Story is a mildly interesting curio at best.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 October 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link
ie better than F for Fake
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link
Bogdanovich teasing on That Movie again
https://thefilmstage.com/news/editing-on-orson-welles-the-other-side-of-the-wind-aiming-for-spring-start/
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link
I finished Simon Callow's third volume two weeks ago. Rather good on sorting out who was responsible for the TOE screening debacle, explaining the complicated Welles- Mac Liammóir-Edwards axis during the filming of Othello, and the disastrous production of Rhinoceros, during which Welles realizes he hates Larry Olivier after all.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:31 (seven years ago) link
I hope to move this June so i can find out which box(es) the first 2 volumes are in.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 01:59 (seven years ago) link
If you can't find them, every public library in America has'em.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 02:02 (seven years ago) link
I wish.
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 02:04 (seven years ago) link
Other Side of the Wind to be released by Netflix:
http://www.wellesnet.com/other-side-of-the-wind-footage-netflix-to-release-orson-welles-film/
― Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link
wowowowow
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link
sounds horrifying tbh
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link
even if it sucks it'll be fascinating
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link
(fwiw F for Fake is probably my second favorite Welles after CK)
Finding all the detailing of archiving/preservation of most interest -- this turned out to be a smart move over the last eighteen months:
Unknown to many, Rymsza had a team quietly at work at LTC during the lengthy negotiations. Each film can was opened and the footage checked for signs of deterioration. Metadata and handwritten information from each reel or film can was collected and entered into a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. The footage was then transferred onto modern cores and prepped for its 4K scan at Technicolor. The sound elements, contained on quarter-inch analog audio tapes, were packaged for their eventual conversion into digital files. The materials were placed in moisture-proof bags with absorbent paper, securely boxed and then packed onto eight pallets for shipment."We definitely made good use of that time," Rymsza said. "We have a very good sense from an inventory of what's what. It's extremely well-organized."
"We definitely made good use of that time," Rymsza said. "We have a very good sense from an inventory of what's what. It's extremely well-organized."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link
i've seen the first 40 minutes on a bootleg dvd and i love it. as long as they keep jesus franco out of it (shouldn't be too difficult what with him being dead and all) it should be a great watch.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:09 (seven years ago) link
The agreement calls for producers to deliver to Netflix, among other elements, a 35mm print of the completed film, which leaves the door open to some type of theatrical release.
You better bet yer fuckin' ass.
Someone said that all of Welles' films, despite some stylistic/thematic resemblance, were all sui generis. I doubt this cut of OSOTW will be "horrifying," but based of the clips and accounts it should be an ungainly, arresting thing, whether it's good or not.
(might be received more like recent Malick then like Chimes at Midnight)
xxp
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:09 (seven years ago) link
the thing i'm most worried about is that it's the sort of film that _ought_ to be seen on a bootleg dvd. it is, by design, an unfinished mess.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:10 (seven years ago) link
ya sure? i'm sure OW wanted it to feel "70s" and improvisational but i think he wanted to finish it, and for it not to be a mess. None of his finished (signed) films are messes, exactly, not even the multiple Mr Arkadins.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link
well, the conceit is that a washed-up, aging director had a party on what turned out to be the last day of his life and invited everybody with a camera there. at that party, he showed the unfinished rushes of his film in progress. so what i saw, at least, cuts between those unfinished rushes and "guerilla" footage filmed on about every kind of camera imaginable at the party. my feeling is that "chaotic mess" is kind of baked into that structure.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link
The summaries I've read of his working method -- Welles writing scraps of dialogue on 5x7 cards which we would give to an amused John Huston -- don't augur well for what we'll see.
I'm more disappointed that he never got to film The Big Brass Ring
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link
i guess if i'm worried about anything it's about the way welles handled the homosexuality - that part of the story wasn't really prevalent in the first 40 minutes i saw, but it apparently starts becoming important in a major way later in the film, and that aspect of it might well turn out to be badly dated.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
hell, i'm just glad welles got rid of rich little.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
Homosexuality's in his and Oja Kodar's script for TBBR too, and, arguably, in every one of his films (especially The Immortal Story). I suppose he saw it as an form of self-love.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
there's a lot of queer in The Trial, too, more than i remembered
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link
if it's not bigotry (and i haven't seen any in him previously) i don't give a shit about "badly dated." Films were made when they were made.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link
Morbz otm
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link
so do Bogdanovich & Co have more OW editorial-intention evidence for this than the guys who did It's All True?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link
I can't pin down why, but I have this deep distrust of Bogdanovich
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:32 (seven years ago) link
http://www.movies.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2i27jiv.jpg
"But...I am here. Can you not believe?"
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:32 (seven years ago) link
I feel like he really thinks he is that guy, and that is the problem
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:34 (seven years ago) link
But he directed this oh wait
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Sir,_with_Love_II
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link
Kind of a Tarantino-esque film nerd who did a couple decent films but I think mainly of him drooling over the fact Orson Welles would hang out with him
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:47 (seven years ago) link
He did a number of good to excellent films, actually. I think his respect for and knowledge of Welles probably makes him as good a candidate as any to be involved... assuming that he's crowding 80 isn't a mitigating factor.
btw he was a critic first, which T Who Shall Not Be Named most assuredly isn't.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 02:45 (seven years ago) link