Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

i'm all in

ps - i've almost listened to all 18 discs! pretty fun stuff.

i feel like every last ounce of bob dylan audio tape and film footage is going to surface eventually, so you may as well start saving.

Speak to me more of this Hot Wheels racer...

the budokan rehearsals (an 12-CD set complete with pancake makeup kit)

The Complete Shot of Love Sessions (including a piece of the one true cross)

the minnesota house tape: just the hiss -- three hours of tape hiss taken from the end of the reels on which bob dylan's very first musical recordings were made

don't you guys think an EAT THE DOCUMENT dvd & blu-ray release would make as much or more money as the Bootleg Series?

it's certainly less messy than the six-disc version of the cutting edge...

aren't there two features edited from the 1966 pennebaker footage--eat the document being dylan's version, and pennebaker (sp?) having put together an alternative cut that has never been distributed?

Yes--Pennebaker's is called "You Know Something Is Happening" and it is reportedly a much more conventional fly on the wall doc.

how about 35 Blu-Rays in a big hat leopard-skin hat box with a glossy coffee-table book, a series of 35mm frames from the original footage, a DIY bob dylan footprint kit, a "Blonde on Blonde" Hot Wheels racer, and a 45 RPM record with the "judas!" cry in a lock groove, all for the low low price of $799.99?

― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, December 1, 2015 5:11 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Jealousy is so NAGL, amateurist!

of whom or what am i jealous?

I was the guy gushing about the box set, we talked about it ad nauseum up thread. Sorry, I thought you were riffing on that.

Re Dylan and Donovan: in kiddie times, I once knew a girl who converted her boyfriend to the following point of view, in the wake of Don't Look Back: Dylan has gotten old and bitter, Donovan is young and sweet, like a groovy older brother, turning you on to the good music he's just discovered. Via "Bert's Blues" and "House of Jansch, " for instance, he became our gateway to British folk-rock: somebody found Bert's Blues, and what't this, Pentangle, and somewhere a cover of Mingus, so let's try jazz, and so on. (Of course Dylan was a gateway too, like with those old-school country songs in Don't Look Back, and of course to Guthrie, Van Ronk, the country blues artists covered on his debut, and "Oh, 'Desolation Row', Beat Generation," and somebody mentioned 19th Century French poets).
But Donovan peaked and disappeared, without getting any where near the range of Dylan (who got sweet as country pie later on, for a while). I still know that girl, she still likes Jackson Browne and Neil Young and Dylan after all; haven't heard her mention Donovan in a long tyme.
But it could be that Dylan sweated about him for a minute, as Elvis supposedly shot his TV when Robert Goulet was on the Sullivan Show (more plausibly and lastingly, kept an eye on Tom Jones). And in Myra Friedman's Buried Alive, Janis Joplin is said (by a mutual acquaintance) to be real worried ("There's one other girl, and if she makes it big, I won't, and if I make it---") about Judy Collins!

Donovan was also better looking and had a much better, palatable voice for pop. I doubt Dylan considered him a songwriting rival, but when you've got promos like this, someone like Donovan could seem like a real threat...

http://www.teclarios.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/nobodysingsdylanlikedylan.jpg

better looking? Donovan looks like a goofball

you take that back

http://resources.wimpmusic.com/images/f3f8d87e/4190/41c9/9916/7db99a405a50/1280x1280.jpg

i don't think he is, but maybe to a Top 40 audience?

The Cutting Edge 1965-1966:
The Bootleg Series Volume 12
Collector's Edition
Special Holiday Gift
Now with over 10 hours of unreleased 1965 live performances!

If you own the 18-CD Bob Dylan's The Cutting Edge 1965-1966: The Bootleg Series Vol. 12 – Collector's Edition, the holidays are coming early for you via a special gift from Columbia Records: 208 tracks encompassing more than ten hours of live Bob Dylan performances from his landmark 1965 tours, including 14 complete concerts – both acoustic and electric - and an array of recordings from television shows, hotel rooms, and other live appearances. Only 5,000 copies of the Collector's Edition have been produced, and less than 600 remain available for sale, exclusively through bobdylan.com. Once they're gone...they're gone!
Current owners of the Collector's Edition were alerted via email earlier and provided with details of how to redeem their treasure-trove of live Dylan performances. New buyers of the set will receive the same details in an email confirming their purchases.
This incredible set 18-cd set encompasses every note recorded during Bob's 1965-1966 recording sessions, including every alternate take and alternate lyric. All of the previously unreleased recordings have been mixed from the original studio tracking tapes, eliminating unwanted 1960s-era studio processing and artifice. This edition also includes Dylan's original nine mono 45 RPM singles released during the time period, packaged in newly created picture sleeves featuring global images from the era.
The complete list of gifted live performances is as follows:
February 17, 1965 (Les Crane Show, WABC-TV Studios, New York City, New York)
March 27, 1965 (Santa Monica Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, California)
April 30, 1965 (The Oval, City Hall, Sheffield, England)
May 1, 1965 (Odeon, Liverpool, England)
May 2, 1965 (De Montfort Hall, Leicester, England)
May 5, 1965 (Town Hall, Birmingham, England)
May 6, 1965 (City Hall, Newcastle, England)
May 7, 1965 (Free Trade Hall, Manchester, England)
May 8, 1965 (Savoy Hotel, London, England)
May 9, 1965 (Royal Albert Hall, London, England)
May 10, 1965 (Royal Albert Hall, London, England)
June 1, 1965 (BBC Studios, London, England)
July 24, 1965 (Contemporary Songs Workshop, Newport Folk Festival, Freebody Park, Newport, Rhode Island)
July 25, 1965 (Newport Folk Festival, Freebody Park, Newport, Rhode Island)
August 28, 1965 (Forest Hills Tennis Stadium, Queens, New York)
September 3, 1965 (Hollywood Bowl, Los Angeles, California)
October 29 or 31, 1965 (Back Bay Theater, Boston, Massachusetts)
October 30, 1965 (Bushnell Memorial Hall, Hartford, CT)
December 4, 1965 (Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, California)

I've listened to a bootleg of those '65 shows...whole lotta "Mr Tambourine Man" for sure. I listened to every show, don't think I would do that again, but fun enough once I guess.

holy fuck

unfortunately not too much that hasn't already been bootlegged (and i doubt they could fix up the awful audience recordings too much)... was hoping there might be the pro-recorded dylan and the hawks carnegie hall show. maybe the most interesting thing is the solo acoustic "tombstone blues" from the newport workshop.

so are these like FLAC links for download or what?

Mostly agree w/Euler and tylerw, these are old news to any collector, but some of the electric sets in that gig list are pretty smokin'

yeah the Hollywood Bowl show is terrific

yeah hollywood bowl is great, and berkeley is pretty listenable for an audience tape. the other electric sets are pretty dire in terms of sound quality iirc. (and i have a high tolerance for terrible audience recordings, believe me)

But---how do we know that any of these are audience tapes (checking child's college fund)?

the late 65 shows are all audience tapes -- the british acoustic tour should all be soundboards. here's the tracklisting:

BOB DYLAN –
50th ANNIVERSARY COLLECTION: 1965

February 17, 1965 (Les Crane Show, WABC-TV Studios, New York City, New York)
1. It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue – 4:24
2. It’s Alright, Ma (I’m Only Bleeding) – 7:25
Bob Dylan – vocals, acoustic guitar and harmonica
Bruce Langhorne – electric guitar

March 27, 1965 (Santa Monica Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, California)
3. To Ramona – 4:22
4. Gates of Eden – 7:13
5. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – 2:11
6. It’s Alright, Ma (I’m Only Bleeding) – 7:34
7. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 4:04
8. Mr. Tambourine Man – 5:27
9. Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right – 3:27
10. With God On Our Side [incomplete] – 1:22
11. She Belongs To Me – 3:36
12. It Ain’t Me, Babe [incomplete] – 1:10
13. The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll [incomplete] – 0:20
14. All I Really Want To Do – 2:22
15. It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue – 4:41
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

April 30, 1965 (The Oval, City Hall, Sheffield, England)
16. The Times They Are A-Changin' – 3:25
17. To Ramona – 4:24
18. Gates Of Eden – 6:58
19. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – 2:54
20. It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) – 8:02
21. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 4:36
22. Mr. Tambourine Man – 6:06
23. Talkin’ World War III Blues – 4:49
24. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right – 3:56
25. With God On Our Side – 4:49
26. She Belongs To Me – 4:24
27. It Ain't Me, Babe – 3:44
28. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll – 5:06
29. All I Really Want To Do – 2:44
30. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue – 5:04
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

May 1, 1965 (Odeon, Liverpool, England)
31. The Times They Are A-Changin' – 3:03
32. To Ramona – 4:25
33. Gates Of Eden – 7:10
34. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – 2:21
35. It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) – 7:54
36. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 3:59
37. Mr. Tambourine Man – 5:47
38. Talkin’ World War III Blues [incomplete] – 4:25
39. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right – 4:07
40. With God On Our Side – 4:46
41. She Belongs To Me – 3:57
42. It Ain't Me, Babe – 3:56
43. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll – 5:23
44. All I Really Want To Do – 2:51
45. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue – 5:07
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

May 2, 1965 (De Montfort Hall, Leicester, England)
46. The Times They Are A-Changin' – 2:55
47. To Ramona – 4:21
48. Gates Of Eden – 6:58
49. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – 2:14
50. It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) – 7:40
51. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 3:59
52. Mr. Tambourine Man – 5:44
53. Talkin’ World War III Blues – 4:36
54. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right – 3:52
55. With God On Our Side – 4:52
56. She Belongs To Me – 4:08
57. It Ain't Me, Babe – 3:50
58. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll – 5:20
59. All I Really Want To Do – 2:35
60. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue – 4:52
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

May 5, 1965 (Town Hall, Birmingham, England)
61. The Times They Are A-Changin' – 3:15
62. To Ramona – 4:05
63. Gates Of Eden – 6:52
64. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – 2:19
65. It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) – 7:41
66. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 4:21
67. Mr. Tambourine Man – 6:02
68. Talkin’ World War III Blues – 4:40
69. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right – 4:02
70. With God On Our Side – 4:49
71. She Belongs To Me – 4:14
72. It Ain't Me, Babe – 3:41
73. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll – 5:33
74. All I Really Want To Do – 2:56
75. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue – 4:41
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

May 6, 1965 (City Hall, Newcastle, England)
76. The Times They Are A-Changin' – 2:57
77. To Ramona – 4:10
78. Gates Of Eden – 6:51
79. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – 2:11
80. It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) – 7:44
81. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 3:57
82. Mr. Tambourine Man – 5:26
83. Talkin’ World War III Blues – 4:21
84. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right [partial false start, complete] – 4:39
85. With God On Our Side –5:05
86. She Belongs To Me – 4:23
87. It Ain't Me, Babe – 4:10
88. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll – 5:34
89. All I Really Want To Do – 2:51
90. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue – 4:54
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

May 7, 1965 (Free Trade Hall, Manchester, England)
91. The Times They Are A-Changin’ – 2:59
92. To Ramona – 4:30
93. Gates of Eden – 6:50
94. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – 2:28
95. It’s Alright, Ma (I’m Only Bleeding) – 7:50
96. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 4:14
97. Mr. Tambourine Man – 6:02
98. Talkin’ World War III Blues – 4:27
99. Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right – 3:32
100. With God On Our Side – 5:04
101. She Belongs To Me – 4:01
102. It Ain’t Me, Babe – 3:56
103. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll – 5:32
104. All I Really Want To Do – 2:46
105. It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue – 5:00
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

May 8, 1965 (Savoy Hotel, London, England)
106. She Belongs To Me – 2:48
Bob Dylan – vocals & guitar

May 9, 1965 (Royal Albert Hall, London, England)
107. The Times They Are A-Changin’ [incomplete] – 3:10
108. To Ramona – 4:36
109. Gates of Eden – 7:08
110. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – 2:15
111. It’s Alright, Ma (I’m Only Bleeding) – 8:11
112. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 3:53
113. Mr. Tambourine Man – 6:19
114. Talkin’ World War III Blues – 4:36
115. Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right – 3:36
116. With God On Our Side – 5:03
117. She Belongs To Me – 3:37
118. It Ain’t Me, Babe – 3:53
119. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll – 5:19
120. All I Really Want To Do – 2:42
121. It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue – 5:05
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

May 10, 1965 (Royal Albert Hall, London, England)
122. The Times They Are A-Changin' – 3:17
123. To Ramona – 4:07
124. Gates Of Eden – 7:11
125. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – 2:13
126. It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) [dropouts] – 7:34
127. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 3:37
128. Mr. Tambourine Man – 5:50
129. Talkin’ World War III Blues – 4:32
130. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right – 3:58
131. With God On Our Side – 4:54
132. She Belongs To Me – 4:19
133. It Ain't Me, Babe – 3:47
134. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll – 5:32
135. All I Really Want To Do – 2:40
136. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue – 4:57
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

June 1, 1965 (BBC Studios, London, England)
137. Ballad Of Hollis Brown – 4:52
138. Mr. Tambourine Man – 5:55
139. Gates Of Eden – 6:50
140. If You Gotta Go, Go Now – 2:34
141. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll – 6:03
142. It Ain’t Me, Babe – 3:51
143. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 3:39
144. One Too Many Mornings – 4:00
145. Boots Of Spanish Leather – 6:21
146. It’s Alright, Ma (I’m Only Bleeding) – 8:35
147. She Belongs To Me – 4:25
148. It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue – 4:58
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

July 24, 1965 (Contemporary Songs Workshop, Newport Folk Festival, Freebody Park, Newport, Rhode Island)
149. Tombstone Blues – 5:25
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica

July 25, 1965 (Newport Folk Festival, Freebody Park, Newport, Rhode Island)
150. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry – 3:29
Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica
Michael Bloomfield – guitar
Barry Goldberg – organ
Al Kooper – bass
Sam Lay – drums

August 28, 1965 (Forest Hills Tennis Stadium, Queens, New York)
151. She Belongs To Me – 4:05
152. To Ramona – 4:22
153. Gates of Eden – 6:31
154. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 3:36
155. Desolation Row – 9:31
156. It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue – 5:01
157. Mr. Tambourine Man – 5:36
158. Tombstone Blues – 5:37
159. I Don’t Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) – 4:38
160. From A Buick 6 – 3:14
161. Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues – 5:22
162. Maggie’s Farm – 4:42
163. It Ain’t Me, Babe – 4:34
164. Ballad Of A Thin Man – 5:41
165. Like A Rolling Stone – 5:59
Tracks 151-157: Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica
Tracks 158-165: Bob Dylan (vocals, guitar and harmonica), Robbie Robertson (guitar), Al Kooper (organ), Harvey Brooks (bass) and Levon Helm (drums)

September 3, 1965 (Hollywood Bowl, Los Angeles, California)
166. She Belongs To Me – 3:44
167. To Ramona – 4:00
168. Gates of Eden – 6:13
169. It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue – 4:48
170. Desolation Row – 9:38
171. Love Minus Zero/No Limit – 3:38
172. Mr. Tambourine Man – 5:41
173. Tombstone Blues [incomplete] – 4:37
174. I Don’t Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) – 4:19
175. Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues – 4:47
176. From A Buick 6 – 2:57
177. Maggie’s Farm – 4:19
178. It Ain’t Me, Babe – 4:13
179. Ballad Of A Thin Man – 5:38
180. Like A Rolling Stone – 5:31
Tracks 166-172: Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica
Tracks 173-180: Bob Dylan (vocals, guitar and harmonica), Robbie Robertson (guitar), Al Kooper (organ), Harvey Brooks (bass) and Levon Helm (drums)

October 29 or 31, 1965 (Back Bay Theater, Boston, Massachusetts)
181. Tombstone Blues [dropouts] – 4:46
182. I Don’t Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) [incomplete] – 2:02
183. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down [partial, intro clipped] – 3:24
184. Ballad Of A Thin Man [partial, intro clipped, dropouts and tape speed varies] – 5:15
Bob Dylan (vocals, guitar and harmonica), Robbie Robertson (guitar), Richard Manuel (piano), Garth Hudson (organ), Rick Danko (bass) and Levon Helm (drums)

October 30, 1965 (Bushnell Memorial Hall, Hartford, CT)
185. She Belongs To Me – 3:21
186. To Ramona [incomplete] – 0:18
187. Gates of Eden [incomplete] – 0:25
188. It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue – 4:51
189. Desolation Row [incomplete] – 0:16
190. Love Minus Zero/No Limit [incomplete] – 0:49
191. Mr. Tambourine Man – 6:36
192. Tombstone Blues – 5:21
193. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down – 3:19
194. Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues [incomplete] – 0:28
195. Maggie’s Farm – 3:56
196. It Ain’t Me, Babe – 5:27
197. Ballad Of A Thin Man [incomplete] – 0:47
198. Positively 4th Street – 4:29
199. Like A Rolling Stone – 2:52
Tracks 185-191: Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar and harmonica
Tracks 192-199: Bob Dylan (vocals, guitar and harmonica), Robbie Robertson (guitar), Richard Manuel (piano), Garth Hudson (organ), Rick Danko (bass) and Levon Helm (drums)

December 4, 1965 (Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, California)
200. Tombstone Blues [incomplete] – 4:54
201. I Don’t Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) – 5:04
202. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down – 3:55
203. Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues – 5:35
204. Long Distance Operator – 3:45
205. It Ain’t Me, Babe – 5:33
206. Ballad Of A Thin Man – 5:34
207. Positively 4th Street – 4:33
208. Like A Rolling Stone – 5:55
Bob Dylan (vocals, guitar and harmonica), Robbie Robertson (guitar), Richard Manuel (piano), Garth Hudson (organ), Rick Danko (bass) and Bobby Gregg (drums)
All songs written by Bob Dylan except “Baby, Let Me Follow You Down” arranged by Bob Dylan

Hey Tyler, did you have any trouble downloading them? Mine only grabbed like a third of the tracks--I wrote to customer support, so frustrating

i actually did not buy the 18-disc set ... don't tell the dylanologists.

YSI?

this clip is real nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE3owtjQmSc

it's like seeing Harrison Ford playing Indiana Jones dressed as Han Solo or... something.

youtubing Elston Gunn not a bad idea, had forgotten how crisp those Infidels outtakes sound, could've been a real nice album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ8iyBn-S5k

man, the early "visions of johanna"s on the cutting edge. so amazing, all of 'em.

Isn't it spelled Elston Gunnn?

Those Infidels outtakes are real nice.

this clip is real nice
Indeed.

I don't understand about Elston Gunn. Is it an alias under which Dylan sounds different?

http://knowyourmeme.com/forums/meme-research/topics/18627-elston-gunn

I'd be surprised if Dylan's "people" didn't know about this and are asking for videos posted under Elston Gunn to be taken down.

They might see it as good free market testing for future bootleg series interest

seems like there are certain Dylan things that always get taken down (eat the document, renaldo and clara and the hard rain tv special come to mind) but some stuff that just sticks around for whatever reason. who can guess the motives of the web sheriff.

i was in a record store yesterday and they were playing a vinyl bootleg of some rolling thunder 1976 recordings, which weirdly enough was pressed in 2014! guess the vinyl bootleg industry is still alive. terrible artwork too, with a photo of bob from like 1991 on it. seems like if you're going to go to the trouble of breaking the law you should at least make it look cool.

Do 2014 vinyl bootlegs still do the fake-name thing on labels, like boots in the 70s (e.g., a Dylan boot credited to "Bobby Z and his Orchestra" on the label) ?

at least be honest

xp

heh heh.
didn't see the label -- but here it is. guess it's more like a 1979-80 photo but still.
http://www.discogs.com/Bob-Dylan-Featuring-Joan-Baez-And-T-Bone-Burnett-Live-In-Colorado-1976/release/5489152
http://cdn.discogs.com/2txcpY0pB1KSAt2AW2xbgFcWI1s=/fit-in/600x599/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-5489152-1394700095-5711.jpeg.jpg

I think it's because it's not illegal to print fake sleeves for things, but it is to make the CDs/LPs

The Complete Basement Tapes won a Grammy, Best Historical Recording---lots of *stiff* competition, get it? (lots of dead people, that is; get your mind out of the gutter)(and into the coffin)

that was predictable even by grammy standards

I know it's been discussed upthread but for some reason I don't think I really "got it" at the time, but that whole Vol. 12 was probably really only issued because of the EU copyrighting laws? Well, it ended up a very cool compilation.

Yes.