Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

feel like every mass shooting has had early rumors about 2-3 killers and it usually ends up as one, but this info does seem a little more specific maybe?

My thoughts exactly.

James Holmes also wore body armour.

and "military grade" firepower can be purchased at the local gun shop, no problem

they walked straight into the building and started shooting at what was either a meeting or a party, apparently. my first reaction was to think it was a (extremely disturbed) disgruntled ex-employee or ex-resident, but multiple shooters, with military gear? wtf

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, December 2, 2015 4:14 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah my first thought was ex-employee too but idk. :(

KTLA just reported that they found an abandoned black SUV in the San Bernardino area

i don't see newtown as any more of a "failure" for gun control than prop 8 was for the gay rights movement, myself.

In other news:

http://abc13.com/news/hpd-homicide-one-dead-in-shooting-outside-medical-clinic-in-sw-houston/1107084/

L.A. Times:

Reports indicate the shooting occurred inside a conference room rented by an outside group for a Christmas party.

??

not sure how you guys can follow the play-by-play on this shit every day

This shit is as normal as the stock market ticker

• Four adults have been transported to Loma Linda University Medical Center, and the hospital is expecting three more patients, hospital spokeswoman Briana Pastorino said. She did not describe the nature of the patients' wounds. Arrowhead Regional Medical Center has received eight patients, an employee who didn't want to be named told CNN.

• The three suspects are believed to be armed with AK-47-type weapons, a local law enforcement official told CNN.

• The bomb squad found a suspicious package on the second floor of a building and determined it is "not normal," the source said. They are going to handle it with a robot, the source added.

"not normal"

They are going to handle it with a robot

robots = not normal

okay so the package is "not normal". misread that as the force saying a suspicious package accompanying a mass shooting is "not normal"

xp

right-wing twitter, supposedly quoting police scanner, has name of person of interest: Farook Syed

https://twitter.com/rickserranolat/status/672167170361675777

Suggestions now that the group who rented the conf room may have been targeted, not the organization

nothing firm yet though

Disgruntled employee? http://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2013/san-bernardino-county/farook-syed-r/

xpost sounds like survivors told police that someone of that name left the meeting 20 minutes before shooting

SB police chief reporting that at least 14 dead and 14 wounded

people should just not throw out numbers this quickly

i literally just heard the police chief say that himself, so if the number's wrong it won't be due to a too-eager media

the media was running with 3 killed for an hour--seems like that wasn't even close so it had no value whatsoever

i agree that hotly reported numbers are bad but, like, this was the number reported by the primary source for the numbers

Live scanner feed...

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/12443/web

also the NY Times xp

Sigh

This is so fucking awful. Starting to hate people, what makes someone do this?

Hating people?

+ guns

ok i'm more gun control but guns didn't make them do it, it just gave them an opportunity. it's not like guns were whispering to them son of sam style

i'm in favor of* more

deems otm

why don't these people just stay home and watch streaming video like everyone else

am i missing something or is the NYT really bad at its job

http://i63.tinypic.com/2zgwzu0.png

it's terrorism in the otherthinking sense, ie American-born

it's just bizarre to put a headline down that at least appears to contradict the quote. i wonder if they missed the part of the quote they're referring to or if this is a NYT invented inference

different departments

“We do not know if this was a terrorist incident,” an FBI spokesperson told reporters. “We do not have any identification of who these suspects were,” Burguan said, but added: “at minimum we have a domestic terrorist type situation that occurred.”

Domestic terrorism = we think a white guy did it?

So who was meeting in the conference space that was targeted...???

i read healthcare company

High speed chase of the shooters rn

1 suspect bailed out of the SUV which is plowing through fences at 80mph and is not conscious

http://abc7.com/live/

suspect dead on the street it appears

Yikes, pretty graphic... sorry

SUV wipers on, scraping shards of glass away from a completely bullet-ridden windshield.

damn

they're refusing to zoom in, lotta blood by that dude