Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

okay so the package is "not normal". misread that as the force saying a suspicious package accompanying a mass shooting is "not normal"

xp

right-wing twitter, supposedly quoting police scanner, has name of person of interest: Farook Syed

https://twitter.com/rickserranolat/status/672167170361675777

Suggestions now that the group who rented the conf room may have been targeted, not the organization

nothing firm yet though

Disgruntled employee? http://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2013/san-bernardino-county/farook-syed-r/

xpost sounds like survivors told police that someone of that name left the meeting 20 minutes before shooting

SB police chief reporting that at least 14 dead and 14 wounded

people should just not throw out numbers this quickly

i literally just heard the police chief say that himself, so if the number's wrong it won't be due to a too-eager media

the media was running with 3 killed for an hour--seems like that wasn't even close so it had no value whatsoever

i agree that hotly reported numbers are bad but, like, this was the number reported by the primary source for the numbers

Live scanner feed...

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/12443/web

also the NY Times xp

Sigh

This is so fucking awful. Starting to hate people, what makes someone do this?

Hating people?

+ guns

ok i'm more gun control but guns didn't make them do it, it just gave them an opportunity. it's not like guns were whispering to them son of sam style

i'm in favor of* more

deems otm

why don't these people just stay home and watch streaming video like everyone else

am i missing something or is the NYT really bad at its job

http://i63.tinypic.com/2zgwzu0.png

it's terrorism in the otherthinking sense, ie American-born

it's just bizarre to put a headline down that at least appears to contradict the quote. i wonder if they missed the part of the quote they're referring to or if this is a NYT invented inference

different departments

“We do not know if this was a terrorist incident,” an FBI spokesperson told reporters. “We do not have any identification of who these suspects were,” Burguan said, but added: “at minimum we have a domestic terrorist type situation that occurred.”

Domestic terrorism = we think a white guy did it?

So who was meeting in the conference space that was targeted...???

i read healthcare company

High speed chase of the shooters rn

1 suspect bailed out of the SUV which is plowing through fences at 80mph and is not conscious

http://abc7.com/live/

suspect dead on the street it appears

Yikes, pretty graphic... sorry

SUV wipers on, scraping shards of glass away from a completely bullet-ridden windshield.

damn

they're refusing to zoom in, lotta blood by that dude

Is "long rifle" an NRA-friendly way of saying assault rifle?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifle ?

helicopter just zoomed in on the gun. looked automatic. ugh

Yeah, this was an AK-47 or an AR-15, not a musket.

still far away so don't take my word

that may of been a policeman.

Police scanner says suspect out of vehicle, one in vehicle and one on the run who has been located and in pursuit.

xp: police scanner said the officer injured was due to ricochet.

@PeteWilliamsNBC: 1 suspect in custody. 2 suspects shot. 1 dead. #SanBernardinoShooting

KTLA reporter just corrected himself: "assault ri-, I mean, long rifle..."

What a country, even our media is lobbied.

@RickSerranoLAT
Calif shooting: Fed law enf. official says they believe one man angrily left meeting; returned with “one or two” others; started shooting.

Just when you thought it was over, the person early detained was unrelated to this, there is still another suspect being pursued being shot at and returning fire.

earlier^

where's that happening?

Looks like they just pulled a second body out of the suv.