Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

KABC copter pilot speculating, based on his visual, that the second deceased suspect (closer to the suv) is female?

To clarify, the two most basic and most meaningful distinctions among firearms are between:

1) side arms (handguns) and long arms (rifles, shotguns), and
2) fully automatic fire and requiring each round to be fired separately.

A semi-automatic gun still requires each round to be fired on its own, but each new round enters the chamber as soon as the previous round has been fired, so firing can still be very rapid. AK-47s are fully automatic, so basically they are machine guns, with an option for semi-automatic operation.

it seems really odd, like the motive for the other two people to participate seems flimsy to say the least.

― nomar, Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:59 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's what i was thinking --- even if the shooting was "because of a dispute" it was a dispute the person anticipated having, and planned to respond to

From the NYTimes

"Investigators believe there were three gunmen and one of them had worked at the facility and recently had a dispute with fellow employees, according to law enforcement officials. A witness has told police that although the gunmen had their faces covered, one of them sounded and appeared very similar to an employee who had left the facility earlier in the day. “They had their appearances covered but a witness believed it had been someone who worked there,” said one official."

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/dec/02/gun-sales-hit-new-record-on-black-friday-at-roughly-two-a-second

I called one of my employees on his personal cell while he was on vacation, with clammy hands, playing what-if games in my head, then he picked up and reminded me he was in Hawaii after Thanksgiving. I have a couple or three coworkers from a CSUSB scholarship program. I hope I don't learn anything extra-special-horrible tomorrow.

as if all of them aren't already inexplicable on some level to me, this is one legitimately bizarre mass shooting if that story holds true

hey if you guys have enough there is always Canada

Meanwhile, during the coverage of this shooting, another guy was shot in front of a med clinic in Houston:

http://abc13.com/news/hpd-homicide-one-dead-in-shooting-outside-medical-clinic/1107084/

― Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Wednesday, December 2, 2015 6:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

As one of the boards resident Houstonians (and also as someone who lives not far from where the incident happened), I should point out that this is highly unlikely to be political because it happened at a clinic. and more something that was par for the course in the sketchy neighborhood the clinic happens to be in.

San Bernardino Chief Jarrod Burguan: Two suspects are dead -- one male, one female.

gunwoman

Bizarre Spree shooter love triangle

this is one legitimately bizarre mass shooting if that story holds true

I dunno, "disgruntled employee" was the first thing that popped into my head about this tbh. Or have people forgotten where the phrase "going postal" came from.

as opposed to the normal everyday mass shooting

feel like the question of mental health needs to be asked of people who think praying is all we can do

Ugh praying for anything can go fuck itself imo.

‏@chrislhayes
NBC News now reporting a US citizen named Sayeed Farouk believed to be one of the people involved in the shooting.

hmmm this is gonna get worse isn't it

as soon as I heard that this was probably a group thing it reminded me of Paris nov 13. i didn't want to draw conclusions that being said. just saying it reminded me of.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12301467_10153274546841662_2874826552664315407_n.jpg?oh=38b78e9ab4963aec6dc17f0a6af474f4&oe=56E7A95E

woah, that's big, sorry. anyway, it's about time we did a little god-bashing.

Ha thats awesome. Is it a well known paper tho?

yeah, totally.

This country was built on meaningless platitudes you bastards

any leaks on a 'cause,' not that it matters?

people need to march. march hard. hell, even i would march. even though i really never want to go to D.C.

I get their angle, but timing and multiple suspects should have caused the Daily News to wait for details before labelling this a run-of-the-mill spree killing.

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what a time to live

So numb to this. Considering I could literally move anywhere and still have my job cos im virtual...it's getting tempting.

Hey Hammer come to Cambodia it's complete anarchy but somehow works.

Anyone with the viable option not to live in the states that's still there is a lil nuts imo

love it or leave it imo

http://i.imgur.com/Szq40wp.jpg

it would be kind of rude of me to stink up another country at this late date. i'm from here for better or worse.

after 9/11 and all that war fever i did take some comfort in the fact that maria had dual dutch/american citizenship at the time. but i can't smoke that much hash.

i think things would have to become a lot worse b4 i pulled the string on my exit parachute. at this point it would be like frying pan to the fire.

and to be fair, it has ALWAYS been pretty fucked up here. not for everyone, but its a pretty steady history of bloodshed. it's kind of a part of what this country is. millions killed here and abroad. in the name of uh the freedom to do stuff.

if i can figure out the professional licensure side of things i could very easily pull the chute --- half my relations are overseas anyhow

I'm all talk. If I haven't managed to leave FL for 35 years...

But London was nice when I visited 18 years ago

I still love the place where I was born and have lived about 97% of my life. Enough of the other people who live here are good natured and kind that I can stand the remaining assholes. Not gonna let a few spree killers chase me away.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/suspect-involved-calif-massacre-identified-article-1.2453471

Lemme know when that's a story in any paper other than that one

And no, the daily beast doesn't count

Ok it's drifting out into other news sources as a possibility with some corroboration, but still I want full confirmation before this shit gets out into the world

Ugh here they come

Well a 28 year old citizens of Qatar is one of the Terrorists who killed 14 in #SanBernadino
Not Climate Change @POTUS Radical Islam

he's a US citizen.

gun was legally purchased

ben carson says it's a 'hate crime', giving more credence to my theory that he doesn't know what words actually mean.

great ... it just HAD to be a middle eastern

http://rushthecourt.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Head-hands.jpg