Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

i still think Hillary is Nixon and Trump is like Wallace with money

https://jeffpelline.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/3372-wallace-flyer-1.jpg

morbs otm

What part of this country is a huge mess?

Have you noticed the color of our president's skin? Sandra Murray of Dubuque, Iowa, has.

“We’re going to need help from Facebook and from YouTube and from Twitter,” she said.

Yes, I am really looking forward to working for people who have those kinds of ideas

the thing is, Wallace actually DID a lot for the poor if you factor that pesky segregation thing out of it.

altho trump doesnt play up economic populism to the same degree wallace did

xp

trump's economic agenda is basically "i will help keep american jobs away from mexicans and china" which is part and parcel of his turbo white supremacy platform

the thing is, Wallace actually DID a lot for the poor if you factor that pesky segregation thing out of it.

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, December 6, 2015 3:44 PM

yeah, Wallace represented the end of the New Deal's dependence on Dixiecrat progressives.

Washington Monthly's been running a series if articles drawing similar comparisons between 1972 and 2016 races.

in an otherwise decent look at the cruz vs rubio thing, this was weird:

With help from an allied group that is airing television ads in Iowa, Mr. Rubio is seeking to raise doubts on the right about Mr. Cruz’s toughness on national security — a potentially fatal vulnerability, should Mr. Rubio succeed, amid heightened concerns about terrorism. More quietly, he is trying to muddy the perception that Mr. Cruz is a hard-liner on immigration, asserting that Mr. Cruz supports “legalizing people that are in this country illegally.”

Their stances on core policy issues are actually quite similar: Each toes the conservative line on taxes, abortion and guns. But they are making the most of where they diverge: Mr. Rubio’s more moderate posture on immigration, and Mr. Cruz’s effort to chart a middle course on national security between hawks like Mr. Rubio and more libertarian-minded Republicans like Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky.

sorry, meant to put the

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between those paragraphs

I don't know if anybody posted this already--just caught up with it this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYlIU5R88eY

Awkward. Supposedly the first time this has come up, probably not the last.

Her answer was smooth enough that she was obviously prepared for the possibility.

She's had years of rehearsal, remember.

Yeah...I guess she got the same question running for the Senate and in '08--it's just the first instance I've seen of it.

what was that? video down.

i saw a Ben Carson voter irl. out where my folks live in suburban/rural GA the next door neighbor has a bunch of his signs in her front lawn, alongside signs that say REVIVE and INSPIRE. of course she is a heavily medicated evangelist known for standing in the middle of the road (like on the yellow line) in her pajamas just in the middle of the day.

cruz out in front in iowa, according to latest monmouth poll

cruz: 24
trump: 19
rubio: 17
fartson: 13

wow

I would totally lik emore insight into what parts of the country those on the right think are a huge mess, or any more of a mess than they usually are. I understand worries over terrorism, ok, gotcha. The economy is pretty much back though; are there vast swaths of the country where it isn't? I'd like to know. I know that there are likely many who have just dropped out of the job hunt entirely. Maybe they're talking about that. Are people's taxes higher than they used to be? Mine are but only because I make twice as much money as I used to. Healthcare is still rightly fucked for lots of people even with obamacare...what else?

The economy is pretty much back though; are there vast swaths of the country where it isn't?

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2014/10/Wage_stagnation.png

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/

When they say the country's a huge mess I think they're really talking code for "Bruce Jenner turned into Caitlyn Jenner and I was forced to hear about it".

divide and conquer

my economy is not fucking back, and never will be.

mine never went away

the economy in certain sectors is fucked and those jobs are not coming back, true. I don't know what morbs does for a living.

but that also has little to nothing to do with whose in office, often, IMO.

who is in office. we need an edit feature

We've got a Carson supporter on our street, a sign in the yard that says, "Run! Ben! Run!"

and dont' stop til yer in Mexico

oh no. xp

"When they say the country's a huge mess I think they're really talking code for "Bruce Jenner turned into Caitlyn Jenner and I was forced to hear about it"."

^pretty much this 94/7. oh, and blackety-black black black president with his black feet on the Oval Office desk.

dumbth

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-muslim-sports-heroes-144634620.html

guys - www.jebbush.com

lol

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if/when rubio doesn't win iowa or new hampshire or south carolina is he then officially 'in trouble' or is he still the 'well eventually it'll be him right? right?' plausible default?

i just looked into it and since the inception of iowa-new hampshire-south carolina sequence (which is admittedly not that long, iowa is 76 and south carolina is 80 for gop and 88 for dems) nobody has won the nomination for either party w/o winning one of those three.

xposts Wow @ jebbush.com. Trump and Jeb! should be a sitcom.

trump is bronson pinchot of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbnLYROCj8

I feel like Bush should a) shut down his campaign and b) commit ritual suicide. It's just pathetic at this point.

how did he let that happen? that's amazing

jeb is obviously the cozzin larry in that relationship

i mean it's still early but it's probably unlikely rubio wins iowa. and i can't see south carolina saving him nor for that matter the sec primary and if he hasn't been competitive w/ delegates by that point it probably too late for him. he's polling ok in new hampshire, second to trump but only barely ahead of cruz (12% vs 10.8%), and that's w/ him barely having visited new hampshire.

apparently a ton of jebbush sites have been parked on for years. jeb didn't want to pony up the $250k they were asking (apparently they'd had it since 1997!), and trump being the master negotiator was able to get them down to $250k.

I have previously asserted that Jeb! doesn't really actually want to be running for president (it's a legacy thing...if his dad and brother had previously run a family-owned paint shop, he'd give it a go as well) and, as supported by evidence such as his hijacked website, I will continue to stand behind this assertion.

it's never been his website, tho

Apparently some FOX dude called Obama a pussy on air lol

GOP has to boil down to rubio and cruz, right? I think it'll go all the way through the primaries though. it'll be hysterical to see if trump gets a majority of delegates but they still refuse to nominate him.

I can't imagine Trump winning Iowa tbh (NH seems more likely)... but what Trump looks like after a defeat is hard to gauge