Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

I think there are problems w/ arming the KSA (cf Yemen) but I don't getting fighter jets from Boeing encouraged/enabled them to support Wahhabism abroad. Ultimately they're a military ally of the US /and/ they need to stop exporting radicalism.

Yeah, don't think that'll ever happen with this regime. Too dependent on the clerics, too corrupt to live up to the tenets otherwise. Really, depending on SA as THE regional muslim ally means accepting them exporting radicalism.

out of weird curiousity earlier today i downloaded a chrome extension called "do you sound like a nazi?" that replaces all instances of Muslim/Islam/etc on a news page with Jew/Judaism/etc--to make the kind of obvious and obfuscating point that a lot of anti-Muslim rhetoric would sound at home in Hitler's Germany. it's a little silly and i forgot i had it on.

anyway, here's how Mordy's anecdote appeared to me

my brother and I (as well as a few other Jewish friends of ours) used to attend a local poker game at a bar that was organized by a non-observant, non-practicing Jew gentleman who was very sweet until he drunk one night and started talking all kinds of horrible shit about Jews and Israel (and yes, about both - it was during chanukah last year and he was going on about how Jewish holidays are bullshit). me and my brother have gone back once or twice since but none of our other friends have. i don't mean to extrapolate this to every Jew bc everyone is an individual but my impression is that antisemitism /and/ anti-Zionism are pretty prevalent and i'd love to hear that there's something being done to fight it (as opposed to apologetics about why it's natural + understandable). idk i was loathe to bring this up bc it feels a bit like hobbyhorsing but idk i think it's important and when Obama talks about Jew communities fighting extremism that's the first thing I think of.

― Mordy, Tuesday, December 8, 2015 7:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was extremely confused.

(((in case it's not clear in my post i'm just saying mordy's post becomes incomprehensible/funny))))

That's super weird, because I had "do I sound like a steendriver?" turned on when I read your post and totally forgot, lol.

my brother and I (as well as a few other HOOSish friends of ours) used to attend a local poker game at a bar that was organized by a non-observant, non-practicing HOOS gentleman who was very sweet until he drunk one night and started talking all kinds of horrible shit about HOOS and Israel (and yes, about both - it was during chanukah last year and he was going on about how HOOSish holidays are bullshit). me and my brother have gone back once or twice since but none of our other friends have. i don't mean to extrapolate this to every HOOS bc everyone is an individual but my impression is that antisteenitism /and/ anti-Zionism are pretty prevalent and i'd love to hear that there's something being done to fight it (as opposed to apologetics about why it's natural + understandable). idk i was loathe to bring this up bc it feels a bit like hobbyhorsing but idk i think it's important and when Obama talks about HOOS communities fighting extremism that's the first thing I think of.
― BIG MORDY, Tuesday, December 8, 2015 7:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a non-observant, non-practicing HOOS gentleman who was very sweet until he drunk one night and started talking all kinds of horrible shit about HOOS

me irl

ok sorry done derailing

nobody sounds like a steendriver, NOBODY

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/us/colorado-planned-parenthood-shooting.html?module=Notification&version=BreakingNews®ion=FixedTop&action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=55660514&pgtype=Homepage&_r=0

Bearded, unkempt and cuffed at the legs and arms, Mr. Dear frequently disrupted the proceedings in state court here, shouting out declarations of anger and defiance.

“I’m guilty. There’s no trial. I’m a warrior for the babies,” he yelled at one point. “Let it all come out. The truth!” he yelled at another.

^Is Dear secretly ODB

hates women, loves babies: GOP 2016

http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/dead-zone-ending-greg-stillson-holds-baby-as-shield-brooke-adams-charlie-sheen.jpg

now now lets not jump to conclusions and assume this was politically motivated

Police have a dude with gun surrounded at Arkansas State U. I don't call him a 'shooter' because I guess he forgot to do the shooting part

active gun holder

blessed american citizen u mean

Looking forward to lots of incidents like this with open carry coming to the UT Austin campus

if i saw someone (other than police) w/ a gun pretty much anywhere except a shooting range i would

- get the hell away
- call police

Are there still assholes who open carry assault rifles in supermarkets and stuff? What is standard operating procedure if you encounter one of them? Just leave? Complain and leave? Leave then complain?

Shoot 'em obv

imo

https://media.giphy.com/media/11gC4odpiRKuha/giphy.gif

ideally people would follow them around taking video/pictures and then posting them all over the place with the caption "look at this asshole"

yeah, depending

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_John_Crawford_III

since i spend a lot of time worrying about hypotheticals, i sometimes wonder what i would do if a student brought an open-carry gun to class. it's a legal grey area: the state allows open-carry anywhere, but the campus has a no-guns-in-campus-buildings policy. but even beyond the legal stuff, i just don't want to me in any room with a gun, and i'd probably just have to dismiss class and go home.

Don't we as citizens have some sort of right to personal safety? You can't bring an attack dog around with you, you can't carry around a torch ... can't you express concern for your personal safety?

But someone might call you PC

you can't carry around a torch

http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/weeping-angel-statue-of-liberty.jpg

i only carry torches for old girlfriends /creepier-in-this-context

haven't encountered open carry in tx yet (though i think it's the an option now) always intended to call the police whenever i see anyone openly carrying BC fuck them they deserve the hassle

I see guys with sidearms pretty frequently in Idaho because it's fucking Idaho. Never anyone carrying rifles or shotguns but lots of holstered pistols. There's actually a BBQ place that I like that has this on their website:

Do you offer an open carry discount?
Yes. Since opening in 2010 we have offered a 10% discount if you open carry a handgun (please no long guns of any kind.)

Before we opened up, we knew we wanted to offer this as an incentive to folks who carry guns. We wanted to offer this friendly invitation to fellow members of the firearms community since not all businesses are always ‘carry friendly’. While it may turn some heads and has sparked some interesting conversations, it has also brought CD’s a variety of very cool, very friendly regular customers. Don’t worry – all of our gun-toting fans display responsibility and safety! If you’re ever in & would like to know more about this policy or firearms related information in general, feel free to ask!

Don't we as citizens have some sort of right to personal safety?

If we proposed it as the Everyone-Must-Buy-Kevlar amendment then maybe

You only have a right to safety if it's delivered by a vigilante in a fedora

with wing sauce on the holster

"the firearms community"

Firearm-American

first generation firemans can't assimilate

er firearms.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/texas-good-guy-with-a-gun-shoots-carjacking-victim-in-head-then-runs-away/

Did they ever find that guy?

If the news was about doing follow-up it would be called the old news.

wow - even went through the trouble of collecting his casings while the car jackers escaped. what a fantastic piece of shit.

The video linked in that Raw Story article directly contradicts the Raw Story article.

Rawng Story

more on that story http://www.click2houston.com/news/man-carjacked-witness-opens-fire-at-gas-station-in-ne-houston

There's actually a BBQ place that I like that has this on their website

I wonder if they have guns you can wear to feel more comfortable while you're there if you accidentally leave yours at home. The way some fancy places have ties and jackets they'll lend you.

You guys seem to have missed the fact that this gun-slinging BBQ place is in Idaho, a state where the idea of a "firearms community" would seem as normal and mild a statement as "night hunting in my 4x4".

We were at a great off-Strip fish & chips place in Las Vegas where the fish is so great that we didn't notice the couple at the table next to us were each open carrying a Glock. Ended up talking with them for awhile - together they run some sort of firearms-centered summer camp for rich folks. Open carry doesn't startle me in the rural west, but in suburban strip malls?

Together, they travel the country teaching others how to respond to those signs. They call it the "Say Something" campaign: If you see someone at risk, say something. That training worked recently in Cincinnati when a student reported someone plotting an attack

wonder how often they see homeless veterans and say something about that

It's just so vague and useless. Good luck, loveable eccentrics