also didn't the 1980 live album have tons of unacknowledged studio overdubbing?
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link
well, maybe not /tons/
One of the strange miracles of Fleetwood Mac is how Buckingham was brought into the band as a package with his longtime partner Nicks, but it's McVie who turns out to be the perfect pair for him.
There is a dark reason behind this: Stevie and Lindsay both acknowledge that he would refrain from (or at times, flat out refuse) helping Nicks out on her songs beyond the bare minimum guitar work... which is really unfortunate obviously.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
And also not really true, because when she was out of commission during the "Tango" era he (and she) has said he more or less created her songs around what few of her takes were good enough to use.
xpost "What Makes You Think You're The One" might be a two-man operation, but there is clearly still overdubbing. I mean, no doubt, the rest of the band is not there, but even this crazy song is not just a live in a room take. I'm always surprised what is going on in some of these even simple songs, especially with a micromanager like Lindsey around.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
also, McVie unlike Nicks was a musician and unlike Nicks not his lover.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link
Did McVie ever have a substance abuse problem? Wouldn't be surprised if she and Buckingham were often left working together on clean-up duty while John, Stevie and Mick were out of pocket.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
she did her fair share of booze and coke, but as a sensible person and professional has cut her intake. She never did AA. A recent Mick interview alluded to Christine sitting in her English country garden enjoying a glass of white wine.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
Tango has the most Buckingham-McVie collaborations, so I think you're right
xpost
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
Listening to my parents' vinyl copy (which Mom says they bought for Xmas '79, because the holiday season was the only time my parents bought records back then) ATM, and am struck again by how weird the sequencing is: three of the five Stevie tracks are on the first LP, and the fourth kicks off the second; no Christine songs at all on side two...
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 05:28 (eight years ago) link
it's been said upthread, but i'm always baffled at how "That's All for Everyone" was buried in the middle of side 2. Could've been a single. Heartbreakingly beautiful song. I was disappointed that the 10/20/78 demo on the recent reissue has a gibberish vocal. That marimba line is a stroke of genius.
― flappy bird, Monday, 18 January 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link
Seems like that of the Lindsay stuff on the album, it would have been the biggest no-brainer to put out as a single. But their chart game suddenly fell off majorly..."Tusk" & "Sara" both get into the top 10, but then "Think About Me" peaks at #20, and "Sisters of The Moon" (issued on 45 almost seven full months after the LP) lands at lands at #86. Oddly enough, the title tracks aside, all of the singles are b/w Lindsay tunes (but not "TAfE").
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 18:36 (eight years ago) link
Keep in mind: Rumours notwithstanding, it was still unusual for an act to release more than two singles per album. Singles-wise, Tusk performed fine.
Thriller, of course, changed this dynamic.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 January 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link
On a related note, I've recently been going through my vinyl backlog, which includes a lucky bargain purchase some time ago of all the 80s Mac albums and the first two Lindsay solos. I was quite delighted to hear for myself that Law & Order is basically "TUSK II".
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link
Law & Order rules. That cover though...good god does that guy have issues.
― flappy bird, Monday, 18 January 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link
...further explored by him and the naked lady in the artwork for Go Insane.
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
good god does that guy have issues.
See also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nLiQBV6A7c
Such an insane counter to the song's happy go lucky rep.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link
check out the audience particpation at the end of this!
http://www.youtube.com/v/_nLiQBV6A7c%26fs=1%26hl=en
― how's life, Monday, 18 January 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link
sorry this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44dS8g4uoNw
― how's life, Monday, 18 January 2016 21:15 (eight years ago) link
I read somewhere at the time that the audience's affection for it astounded him.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link
It's a pretty dopey song. He's done it every time I've seen him, dog barks and all.
Man, Lindsey needs some kind of boxed set.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:20 (eight years ago) link
that when you put on this record it feels like coming home
I think hearing the first 5 seconds of Over & Over with an emotional hangover finally convinced me that Tusk is indeed a stronger record than Rumours
― niels, Monday, 1 January 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link
absolutely
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link
again, what a strange yet perfect opener for an album
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link
I've listened to it regularly ever since I first curled up with it on headphones when it came out, aged 9, so yeah it does feel like home. I think "Honey Hi" is probably the most welcoming / nurturing track though.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link
Not a fan of demos and rough versions in general but really digging the "alternate Tusk" disc - close enough to the final versions that it's easy to forget you are not listening to the official album and yet there plenty of illuminating minor differences scattered here and there.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 20 August 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link
Road trippin' at the moment and "Walk A Thin Line" came on and I noticed that towards the final third of the song a second Lindsay drum track comes in towards the end and clumsily doubles the already clumsy first drum track.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 20 August 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link
Over and Over is like ASMR: the musical.
― 29 facepalms, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link
audacious and perfect choice for opener
― rip van wanko, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link
the guitar that sounds like a scratch track with dozens of small mistakes in "Storms"
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
this demo, good lord:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w5IGdtbAE
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link
All the Lindsey demos in the delux Tusk are wonderful.
― Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Thursday, 11 April 2019 11:56 (four years ago) link
It took me forever to realize/recognize that the Lindsey tracks on "Tusk" are more or less all Lindsey, as far as I can tell.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 11:58 (four years ago) link
Where can I get a giant "TUSK IS HERE" poster...
(No, not Donald Tusk.)
― Sam Weller, Thursday, 11 April 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link
everyhour offear i’ve spent
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
I actually have a small one of these. I'm looking at it right now ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 April 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link
the stars must be my friends to shine for me
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 12 April 2019 01:39 (four years ago) link
It’s obviously mentioned but,the lacesundoing the laces
― flappy bird, Friday, 12 April 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link
Is the 5.1 mix one of the 50 great things about this album? Because I downloaded it last night and it’s absolutely amazing.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 21 June 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link
You mean a stereo mixdown or the actual surround mix?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 June 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link
Actual mix. Was part of the box I believe.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 22 June 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link
Probably a dumb question, but how do you play a 5.1 mix that you've downloaded? Just laptop (or whatever) -> 5.1 receiver and it works? Can Bluetooth process a 5.1 mix?
― Position Position, Saturday, 22 June 2019 02:35 (four years ago) link
Not a dumb question at all. And yes, I use the HDMI output out of my computer into my 5.1 receiver using something like VLC or JRiver to play it.
Pretty sure 5.1 doesn't work via Bluetooth yet, but I believe there are wireless HDMI options.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
it's been said above but needs to be repeated, Brown Eyes RULES and for me it's the best christine song BY FAR. It's just incomparable. Those drums! Those sha la las! That Peter Green!
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 7 January 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link
hi!
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 January 2021 14:48 (three years ago) link
the twinkling guitar at the end of the “who-ooh-ooh-oooooh”s <3
― brimstead, Thursday, 7 January 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link
masterpiece
here's a thing about Tusk that annoys me: why did it come with 4 LP inserts when it's only a double album? It's got two extra inner sleeves jammed in there. Explain this.
― akm, Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link
Lemme call Mick and Stevie, hold up
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link
I believe the two "inner-inner" sleeves are meant to go into the bigger inner sleeves.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link
This checks out. They fit, and 2 of them are numbered 1/2, the others say 3/4.
That said, my used copy only has 3 inserts, so now I gotta go to discogs and see which one I'm missing...
― enochroot, Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:47 (three years ago) link