Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

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No, I don't think there's a Santorum, really. Trump makes the whole thing different.

timellison, Friday, 11 December 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

I mean, there's no Romney either!

timellison, Friday, 11 December 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link

any updates on the trump / cruz shittalk campaign? i could see cruz staring down any trump insult with those beady eyes of his

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 11 December 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link

and then deflecting it using his "brilliant" oratory skillz or some kind of nerd humor

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 11 December 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link

less than an hour ago Trump retweeted:

Ted Cruz ‏@tedcruz · 5h5 hours ago
The Establishment's only hope: Trump & me in a cage match.

Sorry to disappoint -- @realDonaldTrump is terrific. #DealWithIt

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 11 December 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link

i don't understand why people saying 'the establishment doesn't like cruz' is necessarily bad thing for him

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 11 December 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link

strategic piece of kissassery, so gross

goole, Friday, 11 December 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link

Cruz's obvious hope is that his lack of appeal to the establishment can be used to endear him to the voting populace, who will then hand him a big enough margin of victory that the establishment bends to their will thus allowing him to claim a true populist mantle

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link

sounds like a better plan than most of these guys have

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 11 December 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

well insofar as it's an actual plan, yeah

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 11 December 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

Seems to me that the best plan is Trump's - explicit racism, bulldoze truth.

timellison, Friday, 11 December 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link

Or just buddy up with the explicit racist until he flames out

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 11 December 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link

so basically, jail

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link

christ New Hampshire isnt til Feb 9. this horseshit is toxic.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 December 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

don't worry after that it's all unicorns and rainbows

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link

Rubio will not be the nominee and Rubio is a laughing stock.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 December 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

well those are hardly mutually exclusive

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

you puttin yr money on Cruz then? Christie's the only other one I can kinda sorta see pulling this off but that's a long shot.

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link

all the (~)bright republicans i know are hoping for rubio as the nominee

Mordy, Friday, 11 December 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

I haven't talked to any of my GOP leanin family members in so long, I have no idea who they're backing.

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link

btw

A poll of Republican voters in the early voting state of New Hampshire conducted by public television station WBUR found that Carson's support has fallen to only 6.0 percent from 17 percent in mid-September.

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

Aw, that almost makes me feel sorry for him.

ready for the raptor (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 December 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link

all the (~)bright republicans

What's a Pepsi Bright Republican?

:wq (Leee), Friday, 11 December 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link

a republican who has passed the pepsi challenge

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 11 December 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link

rubio is so un-presidential, i mean look at him, listen to him speak

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 11 December 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link

he's like 15 years old right?

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 11 December 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link

And too thirsty. All our presidents have been well-hydrated gentlemen.

Anyway from this...

http://i.imgur.com/V8Amh5X.jpg?1

...one might be tempted to conclude that the Carson/Trump support is sloshing between the two of them (one's rise is the other's fall and vice versa).

Cruz and Rubio's shared rise to become the only "professionals" with poll traction is clearer than ever. Their rise tracks closely to the falling support of all the other bottom-tier candidates (Bush, Christie, etc.).

Or maybe not. Maybe Bush supporters are defecting to Carson and Fiorina supporters to Rubio. Who the fuck knows? But it's what we have now, so it's what gets discussed.

ready for the raptor (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 December 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link

is Christie persona non grata cuz he hugged Obama that one time?

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

or is there more to it than that? I can't believe that the GOP cares about corruption/bridgegate in any meaningful way. Do they just hate a fatty?

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 22:58 (eight years ago) link

"The hug" is one of those things much more widely circulated in right-wing infosphere than elsewhere - it stands in for a whole bunch of other stuff and it sticks precisely because his selling point is that he's a "Republican who won in a blue state," who "can get Democrats to vote for him," which with this electorate means he's suspect at the least and a traitor at worst. Which again makes me think that anybody who sees him as their first choice is not about to switch to one of the real wackos.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link

hug aside, Christie hasn't had a good news day in years

iatee, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link

yeah, but since when does a GOP primary voter care about accomplishments? I guess he hasn't had a good media exposure/zinger day either

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link

He got some nice coverage from some of the debates, but some of it was JV debate and all of it turned out to be hitting singles when he needed a home run. But he's clearly playing the "put all his chips on New Hampshire" game, figuring that if Iowa and NH get split between equally unelectable fringe candidates, the "electable" conservative who comes in 2nd in NH, after everybody wrote him off, will look like the angel of redemption.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link

Fat Angel of Redemption, isn't that a Paul Simon song

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

(He is, as of the latest polling averages, in third place in NH. If he can make the argument that there are a lot of other places like NH, his campaign might have enough legs in it still to justify how much attention pundits still keep giving him, versus the other 2-percenters.)

Doctor Casino, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

haha

Doctor Casino, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

there's at least one conflicted Trump supporter who is not on board with his Muslim ban: Rocky Suhayda, the chairman of the American Nazi Party.

In an email to Buzzfeed, Suhayda stated that he didn't think Trump would practically be able to carry out any of his plans because "'mainstream' political whores would block his every move."

“Look," he wrote, "this phrase ‘muslims’ is simply a PC code word to cover the reality of all these THIRD WORLD peoples invading OUR country.”

"Unless Trump plans on ruling by Presidential Decree, I don't see how he would implement ANY of his 'plans,' the rest of the sold out 'mainstream' political whores would block his every move," he said.

However, Suhayda did add that Trump's statements, while maybe a little insincere, echoed the sentiment of the Nazi party. “Donald Trump’s campaign statements, if nothing else, have SHOWN that ‘our views’ are NOT so ‘unpopular’ as the Political Correctness crowd have told everyone they are!

“But, and here’s the kicker - so WHAT do we DO - sit back and heartily congratulate ourselves that our viewpoints are NOT the pariahs that we have been told that they are, and get all warm and fuzzy feeling,” he continued. “OR, do we FINALLY get SERIOUS about what we are supposed to be engaged in?”

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link

another part of christie's appeal was he is a loud angry asshole who is a dick to everyone and trump is way better at this sort of thing than christie is

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 11 December 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link

haha yeah being an actual rich guy means you don't have to say you're sorry

iatee, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:32 (eight years ago) link

However, Suhayda did add that Trump's statements, while maybe a little insincere, echoed the sentiment of the Nazi party. “Donald Trump’s campaign statements, if nothing else, have SHOWN that ‘our views’ are NOT so ‘unpopular’ as the Political Correctness crowd have told everyone they are!

donald trump - legitimizing the american nazi party since 2015

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 11 December 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link

Trump's statements, while maybe a little insincere, echoed the sentiment of the Nazi party.

this quote is referring to the frontrunner for the republican nomination in 2016, grim lols at this garbage country

nomar, Friday, 11 December 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link

I'm coming around to this "Trump is playing a character" hypothesis, the only problem is all evidence seems to suggest the character he is playing is himself

El Tomboto, Saturday, 12 December 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link

going back and watching this again with 6 months of perspective. for some reason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_q61B-DyPk

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 12 December 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link

never mind i watched like 30 seconds of ivanka and then like 45 of him and turned it off. never mind

did anyone expect it to come to this tho

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link

Ivanka Trump is really not very attractive

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link

"...a PC code word to cover the reality of all these THIRD WORLD peoples invading OUR country.”

About that "OUR country", Mr. 'Rocky' Hussein Suhayda, I'm afraid I have some bad news for you.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link

remember when that protestor got beat up outside of trump towers or whatever

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:27 (eight years ago) link

it's sad but trump looks like he was born to give a speech in front of the stars and bars

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:29 (eight years ago) link

i like how trump is going to get our country back to work as if anyone would want to work for the douchebag. except for his famous reality tv show where everyone did everything they could to get hired by him

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link


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