Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

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While viewers are expected to watch the third Democratic debate on Saturday night, they are unlikely to be doing so in the droves that tuned into the Republican debates or the Democratic face-off that was held on a weeknight. While some of that interest on the Republican side can be attributed to the Donald J. Trump effect, critics of the Democratic National Committee’s scheduling process are also upset that the party is muting its message by holding debates when people are less likely to tune in.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/18/martin-omalley-and-bernie-sanders-bristle-at-holding-debates-on-weekends/

Thanks a lot Debbie W. Schultz

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 December 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

I've long since given up any hope that Bernie won't be railroaded out. Months of MSM blackout now this. Luckily I'm almost equally happy to sit back and watch the glory that is an HRC or Trump presidency.

Iago Galdston, Friday, 18 December 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

I wanna see Hillary try to Benghazi Bernie for this @ the debate

miss me belial (crüt), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

check out question 38:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/GOPResults.pdf

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 December 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

big lolz

Mordy, Friday, 18 December 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

Bernie Sanders' campaign on Friday threatened to sue the Democratic Party for suspending its access to the national voter database, saying the move threatens to undermine the Vermont senator's presidential run.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/sanders-campaign-threatens-to-sue-dnc-216942#ixzz3uhWhXLEe

Game on

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link

looool @ Karl's link

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 December 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

is it a coincidence that Wasserman-Schultz schedules a debate on the year's biggest travel weekend

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

no

sleeve, Friday, 18 December 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

see, i never saw Aladdin.

http://www.ferdyonfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/TheFourMusketeers029-e1368557260880.jpg

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, ladies & gents

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 December 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link

Cruz is such a malicious shitbag:

Mr. Cruz’s irritation with being portrayed as soft on illegal immigration has shown intensely in recent days. Speaking to reporters in Las Vegas on Thursday, he lashed out, saying that his amendment was an attempt to expose “the hypocrisy and the lies behind the proponents of the Rubio-Schumer amnesty plan.”

Then he sarcastically praised Mr. Rubio, damning him as an establishment ingénue.

“He’s a wonderful communicator, he’s a charming individual, he’s very well liked in Washington,” Mr. Cruz said.

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 December 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

don't worry guys there will be plenty of time for hillary to debate ted cruz in the general

Mordy, Friday, 18 December 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

DNC is fucking awful

akm, Friday, 18 December 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

True, but the DNC would just rather have us chuckle about that poll Karl posted---

Public Policy Polling, a left-leaning firm, also found that supporters of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump were more likely to favor bombing the made-up Arabian nation from the 1992 animated film "Aladdin."
Trump won 45 percent support among those who advocated the bombing of Agrabah, compared to just 22 percent support from those who opposed it.

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 December 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

excellent ref to The Producers here btw

There was some serious dumbassery involved on the part of the Sanders campaign, and the person most responsible has been sacked, so the story's over, right? The DNC could allow the Sanders campaign access to the data again. But what admittedly sends my thoughts up a grassy knoll is how this relatively minor blip made it to The Washington Post in the first place. After all, the bungling was with the vendor, and with the DNC for hiring the vendor, so wouldn't the smart play have been to keep this whole thing in-house? Also, if this story survives through the Saturday night debate, let alone becomes an issue therein, and if the Sanders campaign is shut out from the national party data for longer than this weekend, I'm going to be very, very suspicious. Devious and clumsy are, after all, the hallmarks of the DWS era.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a40610/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-data/

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

That's one of the few unconvincing Pierce posts. He knows it's a campaign season. Of course there's no reason to keep the whole thing in house. If he's alleging the Clinton campaign and DWS of even more skullduggery, I mean, what of it? Obama would've done it to Clinton in 2007.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link

not with the support of the Party Establishment (TM)

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link

PublicPolicyPolling
‏@ppppolls
We asked the Agrabah question to Dem primary voters too. They oppose bombing 'it' 36/19, while GOP supports bombing 'it' 30/13

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link

cool research project

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

So glad we have sarcastic polling

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

maybe we SHOULD bomb Agrabah

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

the results of that poll in general are really weird - guys with the highest favorability ratings are Huckabee and Carson (!) yet Trump still takes a plurality and the evangelical/non-evangelical split is 50/50?! ok

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 December 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

it's to go with our sarcastic punditry and sarcastic pants xxp

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

All I can think of is "Luke, you must go to the Agrabah system"...seem to have Star Wars on my mind for some inexplicable reason

(Never saw "Alladin")

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

Maybe we'd be better off if we waged war on fake Disney empires instead what we've been doing #bombagrabah

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 18 December 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link

send all pundits to the cave of wonders

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 18 December 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

The way NPR reported the Sanders/DNC situation this afternoon made it sound exactly like the JW!ll!ams/ILX thing from back when.

JW/Sanders Campaign to DNC: hey, your website has this big vulnerability -- look at the data we were able to access.
DNC: BANHAMMER

Mister, would you please help my brony? (WilliamC), Friday, 18 December 2015 22:22 (eight years ago) link

lol, but iirc jw did a bit more than that

mookieproof, Friday, 18 December 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

lol sanders campaign already caught in a lie over the data breach - http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files

fwiw i don't think this is an example of corruption as incompetence ie where i eventually ended up on the hillary emails. i'm willing to give bernie more of an initial benefit of the doubt than i gave hillary. or maybe i was willing to give hillary an initial benefit of the doubt than i'm giving bernie depending on yr perspective i guess. i can't imagine this hurts him really, skeptical anyone can buy sanders having a hardboiled, down and dirty campaign team and while the lack of access to dnc data theoretically could hurt him there's nothing to indicate that his campaign would know what to do w/ it. maybe he can meet w/ another rapper, should help put him over the top in iowa.

balls, Friday, 18 December 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

Some of the Trump numbers in that PPP poll again make me question where his ceiling is in a smaller field. 34% picked him but 10% more pick him as their second choice. He gets up into the low forties in three and four-way match-ups. 54% would actually cast a vote for him over Rubio.

timellison, Friday, 18 December 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link

I was surprised that Mark Shields AND David Brooks said on the PBS News Hour just now that they thought this was a misstep by HRC and DSW, looks like the DNC is bullying the underdog. Hadnt occurred to me. Looking forward to tomorrow night

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:07 (eight years ago) link

come on we can't waste 'datagate' on this scandal, we need to reserve that one for a much better future gate

iatee, Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link

nobody will remember this by the next scandal

balls, Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:37 (eight years ago) link

let's call all scandals datagate

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link

can scandals have sequels yet?

home organ, Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link

more on 'datagate' - http://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-better-get-to-the-bottom-of-datagate-and-soon/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow🔗

Ew. St Joan Walsh of Hillaryland. No thanks.

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link

This is almost some LA Confidential shit:

NIXON: Look into this Agrabah area. I think we need to bomb it too.

LAIRD: ...

pplains, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

Affixing "-gate" to everything is played out like a 8-track.

I recall some commentator somewhere expressing the wish that given how often "-gate" gets used, one wishes the break-in had been at the WaterTits Hotel.

Personally I like "-palooza," with "-mageddon" as an alternative.

a tern for the wurst (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link

-ghazi

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 December 2015 01:38 (eight years ago) link

Ha well the DNC didn't take too long to cave

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Saturday, 19 December 2015 05:23 (eight years ago) link

Waterghazi
Travelghazi
Fileghazi

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 December 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link

Flint, MI should be called Watergate

miss me belial (crüt), Saturday, 19 December 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

FUghazi

Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 December 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/sQNP2IT.png

FUghazi Bear

pplains, Saturday, 19 December 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link

ghazimodo

a tern for the wurst (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 19 December 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link

femighazi

kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 19 December 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

re: Agrabah:

Arendelle, Narnia, the Shire, Pixie Hollow, and Neverland better look out.

a tern for the wurst (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 19 December 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link


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