Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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two weeks pass...

a scintilla of optimism on this, or not?

On the day a heavily armed couple fatally shot 14 people and wounded more than 20 others in San Bernardino, Calif., last month, Michael J. Bouchard, a sheriff here in the Detroit area, got an order to return his department’s 14-ton armored personnel carrier to the federal government.

It was one of hundreds of similar notifications from the Obama administration to law enforcement agencies across the country — from Los Angeles to rural areas like Calhoun County, Ala. — to give back an array of federal surplus military equipment by April 1, in response to concerns that the equipment was unnecessary and misused. The items to be returned: armored vehicles that run on tracks, .50-caliber machine guns, grenade launchers, bayonets and camouflage clothing.

Most of the agencies have complied without complaint. But to Sheriff Bouchard and some other suburban and rural sheriffs, the orders were an infuriating, if entirely legal, federal overreach, leaving local officials without critical tools in an age of heightened fears about terrorism and mass shootings....

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/27/us/some-sheriffs-bristle-at-recall-of-military-equipment.html

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link

this is great

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link

armored vehicles that run on tracks

Like, train tracks? Because that's just a recipe for "Dammit, the car we're chasing is no longer driving parallel to these tracks! He's getting away!"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link

“This isn’t Mayberry, where a guy goes and locks himself in jail because he got drunk,” Sheriff Bouchard said, describing Oakland County, Mich., where he has been the sheriff since 1999. “There are guys who walk up to you and fire off 13 rounds in a couple of seconds.”

Those "guys" are usually likely to be cops.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link

I think someone has watched a few too many action movies.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

lol Tarfumes

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

Chicago Officer, Citing Emotional Trauma, Sues Estate of Teenager He Fatally Shot

CHICAGO — The Chicago police officer who fatally shot a black 19-year-old and an unarmed bystander in December has filed a lawsuit seeking more than $10 million in damages from the teenager’s estate, an unusual legal approach based on a claim that the young man’s actions leading up to the gunfire were “atrocious” and have caused the officer “extreme emotional trauma.”

Karl Malone, Monday, 8 February 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link

uh

its subtle brume (DJP), Monday, 8 February 2016 15:12 (eight years ago) link

it is my opinion that one should take solace in experiencing extreme emotional trauma after shooting a teenager and an unarmed bystander as that shows that you retain some vestiges of empathy and are therefore not an unconscionable monster but apparently that's just me

its subtle brume (DJP), Monday, 8 February 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link

Holy shit, that whole news story is like something you would find in some European satire of the American society (cop shoots black teen, then sues his estate for emotional damage)! It's disheartening to realize it's for real.

Tuomas, Monday, 8 February 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link

Rialmo's attorney, Joel Brodsky, said it was important in the charged atmosphere to send a message that police are 'not targets for assaults' and 'suffer damage like anybody else.'

Brodsky said that relatives of those fatally shot by the police, such as the LeGrier family, are looking for ways to get paid after the city settled the Laquan McDonald shooting case last year for $5 million.

'Ever since the McDonald payoff, people are treating officer-involved confrontations like a lottery ticket and they're waiting to cash it in,' Brodsky said.

maybe even a little depressive (brony!) (nakhchivan), Monday, 8 February 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link

Feel like this is important to mention, too:

Brodsky, Rialmo's lawyer, gained fame as the attorney for Drew Peterson, a Bolingbrook officer who was convicted of killing his third wife, Kathleen Savio, after his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, went missing in 2007.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160207/austin/chicago-officer-who-shot-quintonio-legrier-hires-drew-petersons-lawyer

pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 8 February 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link

Proud of my student writing this for extra credit in my ELD class. She chose an article to respond to from a zine. I cleaned up the spelling and punctuation a little bit, but otherwise I tried to keep the language the same as she wrote it.


From "No Justice, No Peace, No Racist Police!"

Daniele Spagnola lives in Baltimore City, Maryland, right next to West Baltimore where police murdered Freddie Gray, an unarmed and innocent black man. The six officers responsible for Freddie's death violently arrested Freddie after he made eye contact with an officer, and instinctively ran. The officers refused to provide medical treatment, Gray died in a hospital a few days later. There is communities of residents and they got movement to declare that black lives matter. They do a lot of activities like activities with black*seed, (and) blocked the San Francisco Bay Bridge on MLK day.

Actually I think that this organisation has a good point to go out, blocking streets or places that can get the attention of the population, because its so ugly the way some officers treat black people, so yes black lives matter, why would they stop doing that? These people has no reason to stop. Officers just don't care about those lives, and treat people who disagree with them as a criminal. They have been on the street saying, "No justice, no peace, no racist police!" and they are absolutely right. We all have to fight for our rights.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 23:47 (eight years ago) link

The City of Cleveland filed a creditor's claim against the estate of Tamir Rice, the black 12-year old who was fatally shot by police in 2014, for not paying emergency medical service fees, CleveScene reported Wednesday.

The $500 fee is "owing for emergency medical services rendered as the decedent's last dying expense under Ohio Revised Code," according to the report.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tamir-rice-estate-charged

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 February 2016 14:29 (eight years ago) link

WHAT THE FUCK

its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 11 February 2016 14:35 (eight years ago) link

this fucking country

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 February 2016 14:36 (eight years ago) link

the chicago cop murderer suing the victim's family, well, at least you can that's just the awful decision of a deranged individual. the city of cleveland? suing for $500? fuck them

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 February 2016 14:38 (eight years ago) link

I kind of want to start a gofundme thing for his family to pay that

supremely fucked up

marcos, Thursday, 11 February 2016 14:46 (eight years ago) link

I kind of want to start a FUCK YOU, CLEVELAND campaign

its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 11 February 2016 15:03 (eight years ago) link

would contribute to both. what the fucking fuck. someone had to actually sign off on that right? like these things aren't just generated by computer?

the thirteenth floorior (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:16 (eight years ago) link

the only thing i can think of is that with a federal lawsuit against the city pending, the lawyer for the city didn't want to waive the ambulance fee because that could be perceived as at least a partial admission of guilt (shocker!!!!) by the city

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link

but yes, someone should have found a way to pay the goddamn ambulance fee instead of sending Rice's family the bill. it's fucking awful

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link

the city should pay for it, seeing as their officers created the situation that required the ambulance in the first place

its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link

i think, like mr malone pointed out, that could be taken as a partial admission of guilt.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link

you'd think they could like, put it on hold "as it relates to the outcome of a currently pending legal action" or somesuch, and certainly would in another situation. ugh.

the thirteenth floorior (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link

definitely. whoever decided to just send the bill is a terrible asshole.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link

Betcha no individual made any decisions about this, and bills like this go out all the time to people beaten up by cops and nobody notices or cares and fuck Cleveland.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link

^^^

ime most PDs are run like a mafia racket "fuck you, pay me" etc.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

actually, reading the NYT article on it, it wasn't just a matter of sending them the bill, it's a lawsuit. so it wasn't just a matter of a local city worker mindlessly sending out the latest set of overdue ambulance bills, it was something that the city's law director would have to know about. man, fuck cleveland.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link

This is why I am 100% opposed to anything that results in the payment of this bill

its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link

Even that kinda law suit is very often rubber stamp send-it-out-the-door SOP, horribly enough.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link

"All part of standard process" in no way makes the situation any less of a white supremacist horror show, it should go without saying...

Three Word Username, Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link

good

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 12 February 2016 03:35 (eight years ago) link

No ILX mentions of Joyce Curnell, the South Carolina woman who died in a jail where she was denied medical care, after being arrested and taken from the hospital, all over some unpaid court fees.

www.postandcourier.com/article/20160224/PC16/160229636

It appears that poor/no communication between police, hospital workers, jailers & medical staff was partly to blame; however I would feel remiss if I didn't point out the presence of a private medical services contractor in the mix, because we all know what *that* means

bernard snowy, Saturday, 27 February 2016 13:59 (eight years ago) link

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20160224/PC16/160229636/ not sure why that link didn't take, lemme try one more time for good measure http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20160224/PC16/160229636/

bernard snowy, Saturday, 27 February 2016 13:59 (eight years ago) link

Short version: The state tries to collect the money which it says it is owed by a citizen, but cannot keep from killing her while she is under its roof. No word yet on whether her surviving relatives will be billed for cleaning the deceased's vomit out of the jail cell, or if they're just gonna leave it there

bernard snowy, Saturday, 27 February 2016 14:05 (eight years ago) link

Remember when Brazil seemed slightly exaggerated?

somewhere btwn Gabriel Garcia Marquez and early Evel Knievel guy (contenderizer), Saturday, 27 February 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link

this'll be a fun trial

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-deputies-to-face-charges-over-6862048.php

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, March 1, 2016 10:58 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that is horrible in inhumane and disgusting

that said, i'd watch the movie if walter hill directed it

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link

*and inhumane

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link

I know there's a danger that any further horror draws attention away from more regular abuses, but Jesus Fucking Christ: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/parents-date-night-passed-car-police-showed

"Parents on a Date Were Asleep in Car When Cops Arrived and Killed Them Both"

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

JFC

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 23:58 (eight years ago) link

"obviously they were conscious because somebody felt threatened"

yup sure, that's how evidence works! First a cop says something, then it *must* be true! because after all a cop said it.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link


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