Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

i can't imagine GOPers would sit out a chance to vote against HRC but maybe i should be more optimistic

No optimism for USA. My parents are boomers, retired last year, and immediately started watching Fox News daily. I wish I was joking. My dad hates Hillary and they're both voting for Trump. ...and they're immigrants, sigh.

yeah, it's definitely possible that everyone will just forget and move on. but i don't view that as a certain outcome. there's something about the combination of the people involved, who are primed for conspiracy theories and the thought that "they" are going to take something away from them, along with the thought of "they" ACTUALLY taking something away from them for once

Jeb Bush: "If Donald Trump wins the nomination, and he might, Hillary Clinton will beat him like a drum. Just tear him up. I mean, it will be ugly to watch."

That's an awesome quote. Almost Nixonian in its phrasing.

that is ok, if he loses he can just get the supreme court to ignore the popular vote and instate him as president. worked out fine for your brother, Jeb!

"... beat him like a drum"

"red-headed stepchild" would have been better.

Jeb Bush: "If Donald Trump wins the nomination, and he might, Hillary Clinton will beat him like a drum. Just tear him up. I mean, it will be ugly to watch."

That's an awesome quote. Almost Nixonian in its phrasing.

so amazing

lol Jeb saying that Trump might win = "is this over yet, can I quit now"

one more thing (sorry) on the GOP sabotaging trump thing - if they even hinted at doing that, wouldn't he just run third party? admittedly i know little about the mechanics of switching to independent status, how late in the game you can do it, getting on the ballot, etc

but if he did, they could lose the WH while hanging on to both houses, mebbe

they would lose the Senate

obviously the GOP's dilemma is how to give the nomination to someone else without Trump running third party

I thought there were "sore loser" laws in some key states that prevented him from running third party? pretty sure that was mentioned upthread somewhere.

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He's got until early May apparently to get onto the ballot for some states as third-party. Past that there's a sliding scale of how much damage he can do.

xp most of the sore loser laws are congressional.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/13/politics/trump-third-party-run-barriers/

thanks Andrew

btw re yr wrestling show

@mtaibbi
Rand Paul out and Christie in makes the next GOP dumber, meaner:

http://wivb.com/2016/01/12/rand-paul-carly-fiorina-cut-from-main-gop-debate-lineup/

They do like their bullies.

rand paul wasn't exactly a smart nice guy either

2) a steady third of our populace is congenitally stupid, not 45%+

Morbs OTM. Also, I find this concept sadly hilarious, like, we're so stupid we have to sub-quantify it. "No, we're not all idiots here, just about 37.3% of us."

Rand Paul out

that free market is a real motherfucker

If Trump got pushed out and ran third-party, wouldn't that at least mitigate some of the down-ballot problems for the GOP (people show up to pull the lever for Trump and vote for GOP down-ticket anyway)?

Does anyone even seriously talk about a Trump vs. Sanders match?

I would think die-hard Trumpists would hate the GOP for sabotaging their candidate and be erm kinda unsympathetic to voting a straight GOP ticket - after all, the party just betrayed them.

There's a lot of variable involved, I think no matter what a Trump third party run introduces instability into the GOP's path to victory, voter turnout, etc. and that alone would cost them, probably pretty badly.

This is amazing in a "can't someone just take Jeb Bush behind the nearest barn and put him down, for all our sakes?" kind of way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC6H-8hktFE

somehow I don't think Lee Hazlewood would approve of this

what the hell

are you kidding? that ad is terrific

schmobot 14 minutes ago
I think a lot of Jeb!'s superpac money has been spent on drugs. It's the only explanation for this video.

it's entertaining, and it says something true about rubio, a child and a lightweight

The dancing, though

the bouncing boot that follows the lyrics

we've entered the fever dream section of the campaign

it feels like it takes about a year to watch

Brainstrain 1 hour ago
Truthin' is not a verb


TheTritoneTerror 43 minutes ago
+Brainstrain It got verbed.

this comment exchange is killing me

seeing SYRIA and IMMIGRATION in that sonny & cher font is so good

I would maybe have started out with Kate Hudson in a minidress popping out of a Laugh-in style door and shouting "SOCK IT TO ME!" before going into the song

That's Jeb dancing, right?

Jeb seems more like the clodhopper type

you gotta love that with all the time and effort and superpac money to create a dancing marco rubio attack ad, at the end they give it the title

Boots

my assumption re: the dancer is that it's a staffer who lost a bet

I think it's worse than that: the staffer won the bet.

"When you do the double Dutch, That's Jeb dancing.
When you do the double Dutch, That's Jeb dancing."

lol

I'm starting to feel like Sanders could actually win, am I nuts?

underestimating HRC's donors + machine

I'm starting to feel like Sanders could actually win

win what, the NH primary?

I assume he'll win one or two primaries. anywhere that involves minority or non college-educated votes though, he will lose.

i bet he'll win MN. not that that matters

first 538 models http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whos-winning-iowa-and-new-hampshire/