Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

Listening to Trump talk about Cruz's eligibility, or Hillary as Bill's enabler--which in both cases amounts to an almost sorrowful "I don't want to talk about this, you brought it up"--he's practically a genius on the order of Cecil B. DeMille: all that sin and licentiousness, it's just awful--let's take a look. He just talked rings around Erin Burnett a couple of minutes ago. I think he's lethal when he dials it back and slips into his soft-spoken gee-whiz persona.

I think he would flounder terribly in a GE debate.

good morning!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g

Didn't realize Trump was into PiL.

omg

part of the fun is trying to figure out which person in the audience is you

honestly don't know if that's satirical or serious

That's an unbelievable number of USA cliches in 2:15.

at first i thought it was fake, like they took b-roll footage of an audience waiting for Trump to show up and then greenscreened the dance squad in, but then the audience starts clapping in time and it's too real

Comments are also a very confusing jumble of satire/serious.

DEAL FROM STRENGTH OR GET CRUSHED EVERY TIME

my mind has ground to a complete halt

DEAL FROM STRENGTH OR GET CRUSHED EVERY TIME

Yeah, I would suggest polling it, but no way this wouldn't win.

as true today as it was when our forefathers wrote it in the constitution

t/f: this is child abuse

probably but I feel that way about most professional kids' stuff (modeling, beauty pageants, etc.)

when i was a badass prepubescent teenager, i talked a bunch of trash on a dance squad at our school during a performance. i didn't realize one of the moms near us was a mother of one of the performers, and she started crying. i definitely felt really cool as i reminisced about the moment later that night while flipping through an issue of cosmopolitan i took from my sister's room

in fairness, one of the primary responsibilities of teenagers is to make mothers cry

:) now i can finally move on!

I had that Trump speech on in the background (curiosity is a terrible thing) and it's not news, but he's very good at what he does, and he is fantastically shameless in an "oh no, he's not going to..!?!" way. Here's the transcript only of the last minute:

"And we're going to win so much - and I say it - and I mean it! We're going to win so much, we're going to win with all of those things - Healthcare, everything! We're going to win at everything we do, and other countries are going to respect us, because we're winners, we're not losers. And we're not going to be kissing ass when 10 wonderful people get captured. We're going to win at every single level, we're going to win so much you're going to beg me, you're going to say 'Mr President, we're so tired of winning, we can't take it any more, please - don't win any more, Mr President, please, have one or two losses!', and I'll say 'No, I won't do that! I won't do that, because we are going to make America so great again!' We are going to make America great again. The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before, and I love you, thank you very much."

James Brown could not be reached for comment.

lying to the american public has never been quite so un-nuanced and obvious; he's the purloined letter of politics

who knew Charlie Sheen would have such an amazing second career as a speechwriter

The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger

This is called bloating.

"bloasting"

Registered bloater.

Wait, hold on. I gotta call Mark Russell with that one.

James Brown could not be reached for comment.

As I was reading that I was picturing him falling to his knees with an aide walking out with a cape

"And we're going to win so much - and I say it - and I mean it! We're going to win so much, we're going to win with all of those things - Healthcare, everything! We're going to win at everything we do, and other countries are going to respect us, because we're winners, we're not losers. And we're not going to be kissing ass when 10 wonderful people get captured. We're going to win at every single level, we're going to win so much you're going to beg me, you're going to say 'Mr President, we're so tired of winning, we can't take it any more, please - don't win any more, Mr President, please, have one or two losses!', and I'll say 'No, I won't do that! I won't do that, because we are going to make America so great again!' We are going to make America great again. The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before, and I love you, thank you very much."

this rhetoric actually speaks to some people

some people wanna win so bad

"The American Dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before"

so.... like a zombie with super strength?

this rhetoric actually speaks to some people

They're called 'eight-year-olds'. Or 'adults operating at the cognitive level of an eight-year-old'.

can't watch the video but reading these comments and all I hear is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU

I'm impressed that America's first substance free campaign has done so well. This will be a model for future campaigns for sure.

=(

lol first

He literally says nothing!

Huh, kind of forgot about Carson. Is he still running? Did he just sort of quietly self-destruct?

i think he loudly self-destructed.

In a rambling interview with a Catholic news network over the weekend, Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson derided marriage equality and protections for transgender people as “extra rights” for “a few people who perhaps are abnormal,” warning that if the next president’s Supreme Court nominees protect LGBT rights, you can “say goodbye to America.”

Carson made the comments in an interview with the Witherspoon Institute’s Matthew Franck as part of a series of conversations with presidential candidates on the Catholic network EWTN.

When Franck asked Carson about Department of Education efforts to protect the rights of transgender students in schools, Carson launched into a discussion of how “political correctness” and “extra rights” are ruining America.

“You see how silly this is,” he said. “I mean, it’s beyond ridiculous that you take the most abnormal situation and then you make everyone else conform to it. That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. That’s one of the very reasons that I have been an outspoken opponent of things like gay marriage. I don’t have any problem with gay people doing anything they want to do. You know, it’s a free country, there’s freedom of association. However, when you now impose your value system on everybody else and change fundamental definitions and principles of society, I have a big problem with that. Everybody is equal, everybody has equal rights, but nobody gets extra rights. And when we start trying to impose the extra rights based on a few people who perhaps are abnormal, where does that lead?”

After warning that gay marriage could lead to legalized polygamy and railing against “garbage” arguments for transgender rights, Carson said, “We are absolutely destroying ourselves because we are paying attention to political correctness.”

“Our time is running out,” he added. “If we don’t stand up for principles now and we get a progressive and they get two or three Supreme Court picks, say goodbye to America.”

yeah America was never about granting people rights

Political correctness seems to have become a huge buzzword on the right. It's ruining America. Talking to kids about bullying is enforcing political correctness. Obama won't call it Islamic Terrorism because of political correctness. We love Trump because he's not politically correct.

i feel like people don't talk about 'culture wars' as much. maybe because the left got some big-time Ws on that front (gay marriage for ex.). 'political correctness' is maybe the new enemy for the new normal

Pierce:

And, if you want some more evidence that shit's getting real on the Democratic side, consider that the Clinton campaign has unlimbered Chelsea Clinton to rip Sanders on health care, and consider that HRC herself has decided to appear on Squint and the Meat Puppet on Friday in what appears to be a desperate attempt to re-establish some Green Room cred. (S. & M.P. are "on the scene" in Iowa, probably because cattle mutilations have fallen off.) The simple fact is that, if HRC has lost her lead at the moment, she has lost it to a superior campaign.

And it's not as simple as the "populist anger" narrative would have you believe. Sanders has been running a 50-state campaign since before he formally declared his candidacy. He went to South Carolina. He went to Mississippi. He drew large and approving crowds in both places. He has stayed doggedly on message, directly refusing to help the elite political class in its pursuit of shiny objects. He repeatedly has emphasized that the pursuit of his policy goals, which all have to do with breaking the power of impending oligarchy and its threat to self-government, cannot be limited simply to electing him. And that's where the easy narrative falls apart....

....The respective appeals of the two men are similar only on the simplest and least consequential levels. On the most profound levels, the two campaigns couldn't be more different. Bernie Sanders is where he is because the positions and the policies he has been championing all his career have come back somewhat into favor ever since some grifters broke the world economy and then made off with the rubble. That is why he's different from Donald Trump and that is why Hillary Rodham Clinton is noticing that things in the rear-view window are closer than they appear.

"political correctness" has been a huge buzzword on the right for the past two decades

that goes back to the 80s! history of it is p interesting actually (there's a thread about it...)

Squint and the Meat Puppet?

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read an article about Chelsea on the campaign trail doing some fear mongering about bernie's single payer health care plan. if i had a vote in the deomocratic primary, and was on the fence, i'm pretty sure i'd be leaning towards sanders

Yeah, I've certainly heard a fair amount of "PC" comments over the years in a variety of contexts, but never from a political candidate in a quote like "“We are absolutely destroying ourselves because we are paying attention to political correctness.” Researching now... (xposts)

Squint and the Meat Puppet?

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joe scarborough and mika berzynski (cant spell that name to save my life)

lol The War on Political Correctness ugh

only a totally weak loser would ever be considerate of other losers with disadvantages and stuff.