AA, are you trying to load your own local files or files from Spotify? They only cap you at 3333 for music that you do not own. You can put as many files from your own library as you wish.
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:25 (eight years ago) link
Offline music on Apple Music has gotten a lot better, almost 100% happy with the service now.
― Jeff, Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:37 (eight years ago) link
What would you say is missing at this point, Jeff?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:42 (eight years ago) link
If you own a track and upload it to Apple Music where it's matched with their library, and you play it, does the artist / label get paid?
― calstars, Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:57 (eight years ago) link
The matching is lacking, e.g. the wrong versions of songs being matched. But it's been lacking since iTunes match was released, so not sure when that will be fixed. I can live with it.
― Jeff, Sunday, 17 January 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link
i definitely can't live with that. the only reason i want to upload my own music is to listen to that exact music, not a 7" single remix or a studio version or a clean version.
moodles: that's great, but the spotify cap still exists. so i'd have all the uploaded music i want to upload + 3,333 spotify tracks and i'd have to sign up to a second service anyway. (deezer' playback quality on ios has issues btw, so that's out.)
― Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 17 January 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link
if spotify lifted its offline limit and/or apple music/icml ~worked~ i'd be sorted.
― Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 17 January 2016 23:04 (eight years ago) link
jeff how often do you use spotify to listen to music outside of the stuff you've "matched/synched"? most people just use it as a music library. it's really not ideally built for matching/synching/stuff, no matter what the developers tell you. it's like ordering a burger at Red Lobster or something
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 17 January 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link
you know what i mean.. ordering something outside the establishment's specialtynot trying to sound condescending..
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 17 January 2016 23:16 (eight years ago) link
I really don't know since it is all combined, I can't remember what's mine and what's theirs. I mostly listen to giant randomized playlists, so the matching isn't as jarring because it's just another random song that comes up and not part of an album.
― Jeff, Monday, 18 January 2016 14:35 (eight years ago) link
Really digging my DWP this week.
― Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 02:36 (eight years ago) link
Even tunes I had designated as old warhorses and long ago tired of
― Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 02:42 (eight years ago) link
Spotify buys 2 startups to boost music discovery and content experienceshttp://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/01/20/spotify-buys-2-startups-to-boost-music-discovery-and-content-experiences/
Spotify has acquired two startups in a bid to boost its product and engineering chops. Dublin-based music discovery company Soundwave and the New York-based Cord Project are both joining the streaming giant.
― djmartian, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 14:25 (eight years ago) link
You really require more than 3,300 songs to be available offline? That's ~20gb of music approximately or 330 albums at 10 tracks/album average. Seems...excessive?
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 21 January 2016 04:44 (eight years ago) link
but this board is not called "i don't mind music"
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 21 January 2016 05:35 (eight years ago) link
But what is a reasonable amount of music to rent for $10 per month?
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Thursday, 21 January 2016 05:37 (eight years ago) link
you can rent as much as you like, it's what's storable offline that's the sticking point here. no competing service limits offline storage afaik.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 21 January 2016 05:39 (eight years ago) link
the point of having a music library in your pocket (and the reason ipod classics existed) is to be able to listen to what you want to listen to, not to plan your day before you leave the house. the discogs of five of my favourite artists constitute about 25% of spotify's offline limit, not including a handful of updated playlists for ~discovery~ (which is at least half the point of having spotify).
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 21 January 2016 05:47 (eight years ago) link
Do you have a job/lifestyle that makes it difficult to stream music over wifi/cellular? I have very little of what I listen to saved locally but I have unlimited data so I don't feel restricted in what I have to listen to. The only time I ever sync music is when I'm flying.
― musically, Thursday, 21 January 2016 07:23 (eight years ago) link
only cellular data during the day. i do occasionally d/l some things i wasn't expecting to listen to, but ultimately i want to be able to store enough that i don't need a separate music database. apple music would be The Perfect Solution if it worked.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 21 January 2016 07:38 (eight years ago) link
How much space do you have on your phone is a better question I suppose? Cheapest current iPhone ships with 16GB of space of which maybe half is usable. Costs exponentially more to add GBs (and then only up to 64...) I'm not saying the limit is annoying, I just think your use case is definitely an edge case.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 21 January 2016 07:45 (eight years ago) link
that's not the point though. afaict no other major service imposes a limit on offline storage.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 21 January 2016 08:14 (eight years ago) link
a 200 GB micro sd card is a hundred bucks these days.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 21 January 2016 09:18 (eight years ago) link
apple music would be The Perfect Solution
What about a third party library eg mediamonkey? Can organise things on yr computer and transfer them to the phone to play through the apple music app, without signing up to apple music or suffering with itunes.
― ledge, Thursday, 21 January 2016 09:39 (eight years ago) link
that's pretty much what i do now. it's fine but i'd really rather just use one app, especially to combine with newer stuff that i never bought/ripped.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 21 January 2016 10:13 (eight years ago) link
there is basically the same issue with TV - there is not one single box (that i'm aware of) that gracefully allows me to stream OTT services, play local files, and tune in digital free-to-air broadcasts
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 January 2016 12:04 (eight years ago) link
Is Discover Weekly supposed to be tracks I've never played on Spotify? If so, it's broken.
― ilxors ananimus (onimo), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:00 (eight years ago) link
No
― YOLO Versus Powerball on the Moneygoround, Part One (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:05 (eight years ago) link
Ok.
I can see it's sort of tailored to my listening (or at least my Spotify listening which is about 10% of it) but it's badly named if I'm supposed to discover something from hearing 'Release the Bats' or 'O Superman' for the thousandth time.
― ilxors ananimus (onimo), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link
discover weekly SHOULD be tracks you have never listened to before, otherwise it's using a very columbusy interpretation of "discover"
― musically, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:28 (eight years ago) link
could be that you are supposed to discover how good a song is and not just that the song exists
― I expel a minor traveler's flatulence (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link
how would Spotify know what tracks you spent your pre-Spotify years listening to?
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link
algorithms. extrapolation algorithms.
― I expel a minor traveler's flatulence (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:50 (eight years ago) link
Spotify should really supply me with a playlist of original music that I'll love
― I expel a minor traveler's flatulence (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link
maybe you are meant to discover something new about yourself
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link
FYI according to a thing I read somewhere, it was originally meant to be purely new music but they found 30 tracks of novelty was too daunting, having a few familiar numbers in there made it a more attractive prospect.
― ledge, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, it's a mix. And yeah, we haven't tried to guess whether you're likely to have heard something out of (or before) Spotify.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 22 January 2016 21:48 (eight years ago) link
I wasn't talking about pre-Spotify.
I don't mind a bunch of familiar songs (most of which are familiar from pre-Spotify) but I think a discovery list shouldn't include songs I stream regularly.
― ilxors ananimus (onimo), Saturday, 23 January 2016 11:17 (eight years ago) link
Has 'Notifications' been disabled? Have had nothing for ages (a couple of months at least).
― Jeff W, Saturday, 23 January 2016 13:25 (eight years ago) link
I just got one. Sometimes you need to close and reopen though.
― conditional random jepsen (seandalai), Saturday, 23 January 2016 13:30 (eight years ago) link
No, but we stopped triggering them when a track is added to a playlist you follow, which was the single biggest source (and the one most frequently ignored).
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 23 January 2016 13:31 (eight years ago) link
They're awesome for knowing when artists you follow add a new release, but I still usually don't ever seem them until I open the app fresh.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 23 January 2016 14:04 (eight years ago) link
i really love it when dw drops in the occasional song i know. it keeps me invested and i'm more likely to play the whole thing.
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 23 January 2016 14:13 (eight years ago) link
They're awesome for knowing when artists you follow add a new release
^this
― ilxors ananimus (onimo), Saturday, 23 January 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link
still wish you could follow labels too
― conditional random jepsen (seandalai), Saturday, 23 January 2016 15:35 (eight years ago) link
oh that would be great
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Saturday, 23 January 2016 16:16 (eight years ago) link
Still waiting on smart playlists (auto-updating playlists based on search criteria)!
― schwantz, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link
I depend on notifications for keeping up with new releases from artists I follow, but I don't feel like it's consistent. I'll often check in on an artist's page and find there was a recent single, EP, or album that didn't trigger a notification. That happened most recently with a new Travis single and a recent collaborative EP from Koen Holtkamp.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 24 January 2016 01:16 (eight years ago) link
Podcasts (or whatever generic audio programming name) are available on spotify now. I really like that it marks where you leave off so you can go listen to something else and go back to the podcast and resume immediately. Selection right now is okay but not great, lots of the big ones are available but no serial, no you must remember this, basically none of the ones I listen to. Spotify is making a big deal about how curated their selection is with their "partners" so idk if the plan is to keep it limited? Hopefully not...
― musically, Sunday, 31 January 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link
Okay so Spotify finally thoroughly won me over today by including a super obscure jab song in my Discover Weekly (as well as some afrobeats stuff I wasn't familiar with but liked). I've played it quite a lot in GPM but never in Spotify. So kudos, Spotify. You're obviously doing something right.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 1 February 2016 23:54 (eight years ago) link