Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

welp. waiting on the veracity but still

https://twitter.com/jjsimonCNN/status/690965417175560192

he just posted a slightly different "corrected" version of the quote:

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters." -- Donald J. Trump

oh it's for real

http://www.motherjones.com/contributor/2016/01/shorter-donald-trump-haha-my-supporters-are-so-stupid#testa

jfc

The man has a talent for saying things.

i "like" how the audience chuckles approvingly

also for your consideration:

http://forward.com/opinion/331449/that-time-donald-trump-retweeted-nazis/

And being a congress member is somehow better than being Secretary of State and First Lady of US and Arkansas.

Look: Hillary Clinton is the most experienced candidate. It's ridiculous to argue otherwise. She might not be a good politician, she's obviously too centrist for most of this board - including me - but stop arguing that she isn't vastly more experienced than Sanders. It's stupid.

― Frederik B, Friday, January 22, 2016 10:45 PM (5 minutes ago)

it'd be more accurate to say that clinton has executive branch experience and sanders doesn't.

fyi "first lady" is not actually a political office, so yes being a longstanding member of congress is more impressive than that.

And being a congress member is somehow better than being Secretary of State and First Lady of US and Arkansas.

tell us more about the way it works here

'member of congress in a safe seat who always gets to vote his conscience (except on guns) cause you're only accountable to a couple hundred thousand people in a weird state and they like you' is a super sweet gig but it prepares someone for presidency about as much as idk, separating conjoined twins or having a pizza empire

i don't want anyone who's 'prepared' in the bombcrazy GoldmanSachs fuckway HRC is

also plz shoot Bloomberg into space, somebody

That Trump quote about 5th Avenue is his most perfect A Face in the Crowd moment yet--that's pretty much Andy Griffith when the mic is surreptitiously turned on. The only difference is that Trump knows the mic is on. He's more Lonesome Rhodes than Lonesome Rhodes.

oh awesome - http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/nyregion/bloomberg-sensing-an-opening-revisits-a-potential-white-house-run.html🔗

He ain't running. Unless he's going to pull a Buchanan (wink wink)

having a pizza empire

I don't know, with every passing year I'm thinking this may be the top POTUS qualification.

The Trump quote with another half-minute of context:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTACH1eVIaA

The context will get him off the hook, but I'm not sure he doesn't end up saying the opposite of what he pretends to be saying anyway.

From that article, it sounds like Bloomberg is getting ready so that he can jump in if it looks like Sanders will be the nominee. That's the only way I can imagine him running.

"btw, cruz...soft"

ew

From that article, it sounds like Bloomberg is getting ready so that he can jump in if it looks like Sanders will be the nominee. That's the only way I can imagine him running.

I'm serious. Why do you think he goes to Bermuda every weekend? He likes young Latino men

honestly don't see how that Trump quip could lose him any supporters, it's nothing revelatory or shocking, quite par for the course really given his usual rhetoric. and also otm, he is invincible.

the trump campaign sort of reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifragility

as another good example of how people are good at coming up with new terms for old shit and getting excessive attention for it?

hahaha

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZcdH_tWIAA0Ifq.jpg

"realize isis is bad"

nice

the little heart with wings at the bottom kills me

or is it a heart being nosed from either side by a pair of hedgehogs?

i think they're mustaches

This Bloomberg move is the scummiest thing yet in an already awful and tainted primary. Anyone on the democrat side who applauds this should be deeply ashamed.

He won't do it. Unless capitalism has to be saved.

Going home last night, caught the Buffalo signal for Hannity's show. He had Ann Coulter on. Two things she said: "Hispanics love Donald Trump" (emphasis hers) and "Everyone in New York loves Donald Trump" (no emphasis, but "everyone" was the word). That's quite a break with reality.

imagine that

At dinner last night some friends trotted out the "Hillary is the most accomplished" line, but couldn't site any specific accomplishments besides generally holding office and/or being Secretary of State. Inevitably the counter was an ad hominem "well, what has Sanders accomplished?" question, but I don't think even his supporters walk around calling him particularly accomplished.

What a terrible election. What I just can't get is how people in a city with Rahm as mayor can't recognize Hillary as a similarly terrible or untrustworthy person, or at least similarly, deceptively right-leaning. It's not just that I don't trust her to pursue a progressive agenda, I'm not sure how much I trust her to successfully maintain the status quo. Or, for that matter, get out the vote.

who the hell cares if a former business man turned mayor wants to run for president

how is everyone making a big deal about experience going to feel about a guy who...was a mayor of a city

If I were a former businessman turned mayor, I'd probably run for president too

a vox article about how many mayors were former businessmen: probably about 75%

Watching Sanders a couple of times this morning, he's got one really good answer and one terrible non-answer. I don't think Bloomberg will ever run, but asked how a Trump/Sanders/Bloomberg election would go, he answered exactly as he should: it'd be him against two obscenely rich guys, and he'd be okay with that. But asked about Ta-Nehisi Coates and reparations, he avoids the question altogether. I don't want to wade into that myself, but he has to--he has to explain himself.

nyc has a larger population than like half the countries on the planet so I mean 'mayor of a city' sure...

Mayor of New York City probably a more relevant previous job than senior senator from Vermont

because nyc is a big city?

yes, please shut up

This jamming of Sanders on reparations is so disingenuous. Has anyone asked Queen Hillary how she feels about it?

Yes, that's exactly the defense that is needed, that's what he should say.

Good god this thread is on a loop now

Well at least we're nearing the end, no?

No, the beginning.

what Churchill called the end of the beginning. My end comes in 2050 when rising seas take out Aventura and North Miami.

Here's the Conyers bill. I don't see why a candidate like Sanders couldn't come out in favor of the bill in lieu of specifics yet about what reparations might look like.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr40

i see why