Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

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the ramp in cost is absurd

I expel a minor traveler's flatulence (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link

It can't be a money making endeavor at £5 a throw.

Austin, Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:45 (eight years ago) link

That's the model for all of those types of mags. First fix is free cheap.

emil.y, Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah, I guess £10 makes more sense. but £15 for jazz reissues seems steep. and the scheme is scammy.

I expel a minor traveler's flatulence (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:54 (eight years ago) link

looking these up, I guess I'm wrong though and £15 or more is the going rate for many of these

I expel a minor traveler's flatulence (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

what you're buying there isn't the record, it's the cred and the lifestyle.

ulysses, Saturday, 23 January 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link

"Vinyl is Back, Jazz is Back!" says our demographics which is how we got the venture capital for this enterprise.

ulysses, Saturday, 23 January 2016 20:53 (eight years ago) link

But hey, maybe somebody will hear Kind of Blue for the first time this way and it'll change their life? Just seems unlikely.

ulysses, Saturday, 23 January 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

Upgrade to our premium subscription and you will receive these 2 high quality solid wood storage boxes to house your new vinyl collection.

schlep and back trio (anagram), Saturday, 23 January 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link

Yes, but it also says the boxes come with the tenth / final delivery, and as the deliveries have 2 albums each time, that's 20 albums in total.

It did mention some 'special editions', so I guess there'll be a christmas jazz album maybe.

Mark G, Saturday, 23 January 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link

bought a copy of that thing today, somehow i'd lost my old kind of blue along the way, so i was pretty happy to pick one up. had to hunt around a bit for it - thought it would be hiding somewhere behind the wall of bowie tribute magazines, but in the third whsmiths i tried it was actually in the weirdo section along with occult mysteries of the third reich part one and those magazines that come with a collectible model of a 1930s bread van glued to the front. now i'm spending a very clichéd wet sunday afternoon drinking black coffee and listening to miles mantronix and the pointer sisters

seb mooczag (NickB), Sunday, 24 January 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link

Be funny if this run of Kind of Blues were mis-pressed w/Mantronix on one side and the Pointer Sisters on the other.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 January 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link

it was actually in the weirdo section along with occult mysteries of the third reich part one

Totally read this as 'Steve Reich' and thought there was a corresponding minimalism vinyl/mag series.

emil.y, Sunday, 24 January 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link

It was our custodian's final day on Friday, so I did something I said I'd never do: chipped in with two other guys for a $30 reissued Who Sells Out. Is that a shady scam? For someone who's mentally still living in a 1983 vinyl universe, yes.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 January 2016 15:37 (eight years ago) link

And considering original US pressings can be found for $30 or less in decent shape, yes.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 24 January 2016 15:56 (eight years ago) link

I inherited a copy from my parents' discard pile in the early '70s, scratched that one up, bought a used copy in very good shape for $7 or $8 around 1980. The reissue did include a "psychedelic poster." I hope it's very, very large. (Excuse the grammatical glitch in the previous post.)

clemenza, Sunday, 24 January 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link

**ANNOUNCING Young Thug 'Barter 6' (VMP Exclusive, Red Vinyl, Ltd to 750)**

https://twitter.com/VinylMePlease/status/689883109140000769

maura, Sunday, 24 January 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link

The reissue did include a "psychedelic poster."

Yeah, the first UK pressing came with this poster (and you're unlikely to find that pressing, with or without the poster, in decent shape under 3 figures):
http://www.thewho.info/images/67TWSO-R-PST-Who.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 24 January 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link

For years, the only vinyl Sell Out I had was the 70s twofer; finally found a good US copy (with hype sticker!) for $12 last year.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 24 January 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

There was some import press version of Sell Out making the rounds a few years ago that had appended BONUS TRACKS (iirc worked into/around the track list because it was still 1 LP).

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 January 2016 17:04 (eight years ago) link

Don't know that one, I don't see it on Discogs.

Mark G, Sunday, 24 January 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link

Not sure of the label; it was somebody Universal was licensing to--one of the other titles they had was Disraeli Gears (w/"Lawdy Mama" added on at the end). Retailed for $30+.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 January 2016 22:19 (eight years ago) link

Totally read this as 'Steve Reich' and thought there was a corresponding minimalism vinyl/mag series.

oh that needs to happen, i would buy a shit ton of that! it's kinda sad that there are so few genres that would ever be treated this way. imagine how great a classic hip hop series would be! could see a punk one working but i'm sure it would be sex pistols, the clash, the jam, more clash, more jam, green day, um...

the chalice with the krallice is the brew that is trv (NickB), Sunday, 24 January 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

lol perfect

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link

lol

I expel a minor traveler's flatulence (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

between the sheets

experience president sanders (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 19:39 (eight years ago) link

the best way to spread christmas cheer is reselling vinyl for all to hear

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:00 (eight years ago) link

That's on their official instagram profile, so they're actually proud of it. Still at it.

Austin, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link

feel like elf soundtrack is kinda perfectly in line with vnyl's target demographic. i mean anybody who hasn't bailed on their scam service at this point and just loves to get some #vnyl in the #mail is probably also someone who likes to quote elf and would be very happy to display this in their #home.

the thirteenth floorior (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link

stick it next to the ukulele on the mantle

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

Holy jesus, that's too perfect.

emil.y, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

feel like a lot of rabid VNYL people are so deep down the irony coachella douche-hole, this is probably the most awesome lol album they could have received

nomar, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

a festival father john misty could actually headline

I expel a minor traveler's flatulence (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link

ok i understand the reasoning behind 99.9% of vinyl reissues even if i don't agree with all of it but WHY DOES THAT EXIST

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link

People like Christmas music?

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

never knew elf was in the christmas music canon but ok

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

*elf soundtrack*

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 21:08 (eight years ago) link

i just mean, it's fine to have just a normal 00s hans zimmer or w/e soundtrack being reissued on vinyl, people are into him, whatever... this is a bridge to far, in my jackass opinion, though

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link

People like Elf. Elf soundtrack is full of Christmas music. Elf soundtrack gets reissued. Feel like there were a bunch of way weirder reissues on Record Store Day's past but maybe I'm just finding all of this too silly to be shocked by anymore.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link

some people in this thread are on the naughty list

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link

my 13yo daughter loves the Elf soundtrack (starts playing it before Thanksgiving, if not forbidden) and now has to have her favorite records (hello Marina and the Diamonds) on vinyl, so I'll be trying to keep that away from her eyes.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link

i stand corrected

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link

this was from back in May but I dunno if it got posted on this or another of the myriad vinyl revival threads, but fascinating stuff here:

“There are only two companies worldwide that produce lacquers. One of these companies is a one-man operation in Japan run by an old man who produces the lacquers in his garage. It’s excellent quality, but who knows how much longer he can and especially will want to continue to do this. When we are in contact with him, we attempt to order as many lacquers as we can in order to stock up as much as possible. You don’t really know when you will reach him again. The other company is in the USA and serves a large portion of the market. It is practically a monopoly. This is not good for business.”

Then there are the cutting machines. The most popular and well known of these were developed in Germany by Neumann and were produced until the early 1980s. To operate these machines a so-called stylus is needed, which carves the groove into the lacquer to store the music on the disc. “Today, these styluses are produced by one company worldwide,” says Lubich, “by Apollo in the USA, where the lacquers are also made.” One person, Maria, was responsible for the entire production of the styluses and she had mastered the process, according to Lubich. “Maria knew exactly which adhesives were the right ones, and that you couldn’t use the large vats because the consistency of the adhesive would change. Then she retired, and for a long time the styluses were qualitatively just not as good.”

http://www.factmag.com/2015/05/07/pressed-to-the-edge-vinyl/

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link

it's okay, there are plenty of records already.

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link

"We've had sixty, seventy years of making records. That's stage one. Now we sample them".

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

My first Urban Outfitters: Vintage Vinyl=Roached looking Traffic albums in bags for $12 a pop.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 February 2016 01:10 (eight years ago) link

Excellent!

Mark G, Thursday, 11 February 2016 07:38 (eight years ago) link

This is truly a Golden Age for garbage vinyl.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 February 2016 09:16 (eight years ago) link

saw the second issue of that jazz on vinyl partwork in the newsagents the other day (John Coltrane's Blue Train), and it's priced at £9.99 rather than £14.99, don't know if that indicates that the first issue sold better than anticipated or worse than anticipated

soref, Thursday, 11 February 2016 11:56 (eight years ago) link


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