Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

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Winter Soldier and Avengers 2 were both messes.

search: Iron Man 1, Thor 1, Avengers 1, GotG
borderline: Ant-Man
destroy: Iron Man 2, Thor 2, Hulk, Cap 1, Cap 2, Avengers 2

I should stop watching these.

remove butt (abanana), Sunday, 31 January 2016 14:54 (eight years ago) link

don't understand rating Winter Soldier below Ant-Man or even Avengers 1
I think of all of them, Winter Soldier & Guardians of the Galaxy are the most re-watchable by far

all official correspondence concerning "chili cook-off" (El Tomboto), Sunday, 31 January 2016 15:19 (eight years ago) link

I'm the wrong person to ask because I have no objection to any of these movies, regardless of quality.

If I had to rate them on the fun scale I'd put Thor 1, Cap 1, Iron Man 1, & Cap 2 at the top and Hulk, Thor 2 & Iron Man 2 at the bottom.

experience president sanders (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 31 January 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link

Yeah Cap 1 is great

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

I don't know why people like Cap 2. Complicated real world issues are because evil conspiracy. New bad guy turns out to be dead guy WHAT! oh wait it doesn't matter.

remove butt (abanana), Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link

Uh people like it because it's a kickass action movie

experience president sanders (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link

otm

Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:49 (eight years ago) link

And no one is even talking about Iron Man 3 here which is insane because it's great.

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Sunday, 31 January 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link

Haven't seen it and probably won't.

remove butt (abanana), Sunday, 31 January 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

Where should I send your cookie?

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Sunday, 31 January 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link

IM3 is great on multiple levels. Worst I can say about it is that it gets kinda boring during the ACTION PACKED FINALE but when it's good it's amazing.

I could watch just the Kingsley bits over and over. And the child actor.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 1 February 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link

I'm not sure I've seen any of these movies more than once, but I want to say I liked Thor 2 more than Cap 2 (even if I liked Cap 1 much more than Thor 1). I dunno, I just though it was fun. Ones I'd be least inclined to ever revisit include Avengers 2 and Ant-Man. One I think I'd most like to see again is Iron Man 3, if only for the comically insane number of SFX people listed in the credits.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 February 2016 00:23 (eight years ago) link

thor 2 was sludgy & boring to me

cap 2 was great! but my overall preference is for cap 1 mostly bcz i love peggy & cap together in their own time, and i kinda liked hugo weaving's scary hydra skull nazi

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 February 2016 00:28 (eight years ago) link

i really dug ant-man, way more than i expected to. but it's the least marvel-seeming, it feels like it's own movie more than part of the world that cap or thor or iron man exists in, even though it refers to the same events etc

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 February 2016 00:30 (eight years ago) link

Willing to bet that if you think Thor 2 is fun, then it's not on the list of movies you've seen twice :)

Tom Hiddlestone is having a lot of fun in it of course, but then there's so much of the picture when he's not on screen and everything judders to a halt.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 February 2016 00:36 (eight years ago) link

sooo many alium subtitles, that shit was hella boring

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 February 2016 01:37 (eight years ago) link

I was trying to recall any talking onions, but nm

experience president sanders (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 1 February 2016 02:23 (eight years ago) link

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 February 2016 02:25 (eight years ago) link

I don't remember anything about it except some space monster running around ... London? Maybe there were onions, can't recall.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 February 2016 03:36 (eight years ago) link

ant man, thor 1, guardians of the galaxy all on another level of entertaining to me. thor 1 is particularly good because it's kind of quiet. thor 2 I don't remember a thing about.

akm, Monday, 1 February 2016 06:36 (eight years ago) link

the wormhole action scene was the only interesting part of Thor 2

even Hiddlestone's bits (although he did his best) were kind of rubbish

Number None, Monday, 1 February 2016 07:42 (eight years ago) link

I think people's tolerance of Antman may be directly linked to their tolerance of Paul Rudd writing his own dialogue.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 February 2016 11:35 (eight years ago) link

I like them all but Cap 2 and Iron Man 3 were top of the heap for me. And I love all of the shows. I know I can come off as Mr. 'rah-rah, Marvel can do no wrong!' but it's instructive to remember that the MCU came on a wave of mostly total bullshit Marvel movies (which has clearly not quite abated yet), stuff that just about had me swearing off Marvel movies altogether. Even the lesser MCU efforts are pretty solid in comparison.

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 February 2016 13:20 (eight years ago) link

And I mean are people even watching Agent Carter anymore? That show is so good.

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 February 2016 13:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I'm watching it, it's pretty much the best thing to have come out of the whole Marvel movie/TV franchise, though Jessica Jones was almost as good. I think the Marvel TV series in general are more interesting than the movies at this point, the lower budget means they don't have to be as crowd-pleasing as the movies, which allows for a more unique approach... Even if they both touch some feminist theme, AC and JJ couldn't be further apart when it comes to style (noir vs. sunlight) and feel (gritty and serious vs. light-hearted adventure).

Tuomas, Monday, 1 February 2016 13:33 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i've been watching agent carter too and it's been really good - hayley atwell is obviously great, but the scripts seem sharper and funnier for the second season too

Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 February 2016 14:20 (eight years ago) link

I was burned by SHIELD so have trouble to committing to severally MCU TV series. Too much to watch as it is, especially since what I have seen so far ties so tenuously to the greater MCU narrative. Plus as discussed earlier and elsewhere, their hands are kind of tied, because they have to save major story lines and special appearances for the films, not the TV shows.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 February 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link

I've watched Daredevil and Jessica Jones - the former is moderately entertaining, the latter extremely entertaining.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 February 2016 14:47 (eight years ago) link

Agent Carter, Daredevil, and Jessica Jones are all short seasons that are pretty new-viewer friendly and don't require much commitment, and they're all great. SHIELD has only gotten better as it's gone on but demands more time + patience and heavily ties in with the events of at least Cap 2 but has also gotten very good at being its own thing but haters gonna hate so that ship has sailed for lots of people who will probably never know what they're missing (at least until the Inhumans become a thing in the movies and everyone feels compelled to see what they've been sleeping on).

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 February 2016 15:01 (eight years ago) link

Agent Carter is my favorite show on tv, hands down

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 February 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

yeah i've only seen a couple of episodes of shield, one was the pilot which was eh and the other one was pretty good and had adrianne palicki looking hot as fuck as mockingbird. i might eventually check it out but everytime i think about i think 'actually i should watch alias instead' and then i end up watching basketball instead. agent carter i enjoyed; nothing too special but very solid entertainment (similar to the first cap movie). hayley atwell is something else as well. love the netflix marvel shows so far, the criticisms i've heard are fair enough for sure but w/ the exception of gotg and maybe winter soldier i've enjoyed the netflix shows more than any of the movies.

balls, Monday, 1 February 2016 23:01 (eight years ago) link

VG, talk me into giving Agent Carter another shot! I watched the first couple eps and got bored and wandered away...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 04:05 (eight years ago) link

It's soooooo marvellous

Rewatch Cap 1, with a mind for watching Peggy. Lock in on her steely resolve & excellent choice of lipstick shade, and go from there.

Peggy is like a mega-detective & spy & vigilante. full of spirit & pluck, ingenuity & she can kick all the asses without any help at all. Jarvis is a fun foil to her boldness, and while it takes awhile for the agency guys to not be lame dorks, Sousa turns into a pretty good stick towards the end of S1

And Howard Stark is delightfully rakish :)

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 05:55 (eight years ago) link

IT

IS

THE BEST

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 05:56 (eight years ago) link

just let go of all the marvel shoegaze serious business of agents of shield/daredevil/jessica jones ... agent carter is light & airy & fun

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 05:57 (eight years ago) link

With a pretty steady body count, it's not the Mary Tyler Moore show.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 08:04 (eight years ago) link

dammit now I want a Mary Tyler Moore Show with a steady body count

its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link

lol apparently S1 is also not available on any ~legitimate~ streaming service

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:50 (eight years ago) link

;_;

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

you could surely find it on the t0rrentz tho

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link

Well, you can buy the DVD/Blu-ray set, anyway. I mean, only from Amazon for some reason, but still.

Loving all of these barriers of entry into a medium that's nearing its death throes.

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

That's weird, season 1 and the new episodes of season 2 are on Netflix here.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link

It's on Hulu, no?

experience president sanders (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link

Hulu, ABC and ON DEMAND have the first three eps of S2 and ~clips~ of S1. Thanks guys!

XFINITY ON DEMAND had it until last week, but like i said the first two eps did not charm me and i wandered off

Amazon apparently has exclusive US rights and I with my Prime Video access I have the privilege of buying from for $2.99 per episode which haha yeah nope

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link

wtf how can one sentence get so mangled lol. I blame repeatedly going back to "fix" helpful corrections from grrr autocorrect

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link

I reeeeeeeeeeeally hope this 'Amazon exclusive!' shit bites everyone involved on the ass. It's one thing to have exclusive streaming rights but another altogether to have exclusive rights to every purchasable form of a particular work.

Chortles And Guffaws (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

How is that different from any action/sci-fi movie?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 13:04 (eight years ago) link

Uh, so a thee-act structure?

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 13:18 (eight years ago) link

Feel like the last Avengers and Thor movies were waaaay more scattered than three acts, felt more comic book event series-paced

Nhex, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link


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