Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

Dear Christians: the rest of us have no desire to curb your practice or celebration of Christianity. That you feel threated by having to acknowledge and accept non-Christians makes me question the integrity of your religious beliefs to the same extent that expressions of homophobia make me wonder how much the homophobe is secretly dreaming of weiners.

you might be looking for this: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/iowa-new-hampshire-gop-voters-poll.html#comments

Weird that these people who vaguely complain about all of the nebulous shit that's wrong and making the country go to hell are pretty much like the majority of what's actually wrong with the country. A little TOO ironic, yeah I really do think.

so beautiful:

“I think in terms of this heroin epidemic, one of the things that I believe is when I was growing up we had strong families with a support system, we had neighborhoods that we could go and get into a baseball game, a football game, get into a fight.”

kinda long for a bumper sticker, but catchy nonetheless:

"I just want to feel safe like I felt like I did with George W. after 9/11. He had just taken office, and that kind of ruined his presidency, in a way. Our president now isn’t tough at all. I don’t think he cares. I think he’s an economic — I can’t say Hitler. But part of me feels like he does the national debt on purpose, because I feel like he hates America."

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Brett OTM

Brett Giese, 34, sales

"Oblama equals economic Hitler who does national debt because hates America. Words...hard. Thinking...hurts. Must...punch...something."

It's really okay to just say, "I don't actually know that much and I'm not even a little articulate so maybe I shouldn't offer an opinion to your publication."

yeah, really, we won't even BE here in 200 years:

"There’s a great deal of disappointment with Mr. Obama and what he’s done. Even among my staunchly Democratic friends, they sort of hang their head whenever his name is brought up. He feels that global warming is more important than people getting killed in San Bernardino. People look at that and say, ‘What is he, crazy? You want to spend all these dollars that we don’t have on stuff that ain’t going to happen for 200 years? Are you crazy?’"

Brett makes me realize it is time to take back America.

k3v: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379413000875

This paper examines how ageing and generational formative experiences affect vote choices in Britain. Using a combination of panel data and assumptions about party fortunes we estimate ageing effects. These are then entered into a model using cross-sectional data from 1964 to 2010 to estimate generational differences in vote choice. Ageing increases the likelihood of a Conservative vote substantially, but there is no trend towards lower rates of Conservative voting among newer generations. There are however identifiable political generations corresponding with periods of Conservative dominance: voters who came of age in the 1930s, 1950s and 1980s are ceteris paribus somewhat more Conservative. Our method therefore lends some support to theories of political generations, but also demonstrates the considerable impact of ageing on vote choice.

mm is Brett single?

every time i think i've found the iowa state fair blue ribbon prize winner i find yet another candidate!!

Jane Biddick, 57, music teacher
From: Marion, Iowa
Supporting: Trump

"When I heard Trump was running, I dropped my hat. That was it. I couldn’t believe it. It was kind of like — you know, if you found the mate you’d been waiting for, or the home of your dreams. I just knew that it was perfect. There’s a lot of us who try and try, and we hit and miss. A lot of us don’t succeed to the level that he has. He’s like a Carnegie. You know the Carnegie family? Or one of those people in history — the Ford family, for example. He’s a Henry Ford in our lifetime."

man, some real competition out there...

When I heard Trump was running, I dropped my hat

Did she mean, "When I heard Trump was running, I pooped"?

Huh, I never realized before that "dropped my hat" was a colloquialism meaning "lost the last of my tenuous grasp on reality".

he pooped a hat, it was amazing, just incredible, the greatest

Or one of those people in history — the Ford family, for example. He’s a Henry Ford in our lifetime.

^^^^amazing

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"but part of me feels like he does the national debt on purpose"

wonderful

Trump is totally like one of those people in history. Like an Amelia Earhart or a Ghandi or a Judas or a William Bell or a Button Gwinnett. He's a Button Gwinnett in our lifetime.

man, a guy just came in from one of the vermont hill towns and he only comes into town here once a month to drink and he was PISSED that i didn't have the david allen coe album that his mom wanted. i didn't ask him who he's voting for...

The most amazing thing about that @dick_nixon article was the photos of him with Kasich. Nixon's head was enormous. Like twice the size of a human head.

okay another drunk hillbilly just came in to tell me the story about the time their dog ate their best AC/DC album and i realize i'm being punished by a christian god for laughing too hard at that ny magazine article...

about the time their dog ate their best AC/DC album

Their dog...or OBAMA?

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-58317-thanks-Obama-cookie-milk-gif-I-79yU.gif

Democracy is a ridiculous form of government, and so is whatever this shit we have is.

so what's the answer then, answer man?

I'm starting a punk band called Economic Hitler, who's with me?

since the question is which republican candidate we would vote for, there is no answer.

I can see where eight years of having our collective annihilation delayed would be pretty galling to self-loathing people who are trying to maintain a passive-but-steady suicide spiral by denying climate change and voting for Bushes and Trumps and shit like that. "Thanks, Obama!" indeed.

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people always say be more like finland or whatever but the examples they use are always places as big as brooklyn in size with five people in them. which just seem easier to manage then this messy monster here. but maybe i'm wrong. maybe we could all be finnish with a minimum of fuss and muss. maybe the scale doesn't matter.

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scowler!

the non-presidential election background at the state level--

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/13/opinion/campaign-stops/the-republican-partys-50-state-solution.html?rref=collection%2Fcolumn%2Fthomas-b-edsall&action=click&contentCollection=opinion®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=3&pgtype=collection&_r=0

Seven years ago, Democrats had a commanding lead in state legislatures, controlling both legislative chambers in 27 states, nearly double the 14 controlled by Republicans. They held 4082 state senate and house seats, compared to the Republicans’ 3223.

Sweeping Republican victories at the state level in 2010 and 2014 transformed the political landscape.

...

By 2015, there were Republican majorities in 70 percent — 68 of 98 — of the nation’s partisan state houses and senates, the highest number in the party’s history. (Nebraska isn’t counted in because it has a non-partisan, unicameral legislature.) Republicans controlled the legislature and governorship in 23 states, more than triple the seven under full Democratic control.

What’s changed seems to be the result of the relatively recent nationalization of state campaign financing,” Morgan Kousser, a professor of history at Caltech (and, as it happens, Thad Kousser’s father), wrote in an email:

The Koch brothers understand the importance of controlling state legislatures; George Soros doesn’t. I’m not sure why this should be the case, but since we’re really talking about a relatively small number of mega-donors who have caused this, it’s a rather restricted question.

someone was just fishing for a trump opinion from me. i offered that, 'he reminds me of reagan' and left it at that. felt good

I'd suggest that we just hook all of Trump's supporters up to VR headgear and feed them four years of nightmares but these people live in a delusional dreamworld where W didn't take an eight-year steaming dump on the US so who even knows how awful things would have to get before they'd complain about the smell.

Keeping thinking about some half-remembered quote from Churchill about meeting the average voter

He reminds me of Regan. From The Exorcist.

saw some tweet today that Trump is a comments section come to life

yr thinking of america

more like a tweet come to life xp

Kasich shoring up #2 in NH, sez Pierce

It appears that more than a few attendees are a bit puzzled when Kasich asks for a show of hands. "Anybody here know who David Bowie was?" It really doesn't matter, though, because "one of my favorite songs, I've been told we can't play it here because we haven't [been granted] permission." Kasich launches into a complicated story about Eric Clapton and George Harrison and a command that Clapton wake up before sunrise. (This last part seems more probable if Clapton was told he had to stay up until sunrise. Sadly, Pattie Boyd appears to have played no role in this story.) Things became only slightly clearer when a man wearing road kill on his head and a blue rubber band in his beard steps forward and begins singing "Here Come the Sun."

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a41693/kasich-new-hampshire/

a compelling platform

"I'd suggest that we just hook all of Trump's supporters up to VR headgear and feed them four years of nightmares"

just read them an endless legal litany of Trump's bankruptcies, lawsuits, nebulous campaign contributions, and "alleged" mob activity. that oughta do the trick.

Nixon's head was enormous. Like twice the size of a human head.

Perfect head for a movie star, wanting only the charm and good looks.