Bond #24: SPECTRE

Craig rankings? mine: Royale> Skyfall> Spectre> Solace. and yours?

Royale >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest

Craig is a great Bond, and I think great at being the charming roguish Bond (cf Casino Royale) but when they decided to go Bourne in QoS it wasn't so great, and going the full Nolan Batman in the last two hasn't really paid off anywhere except the box office. idk i mean people seem to really love skyfall especially but it just feels wrong even if it's "accomplished" in many ways.

Of all the things people seem to love about Skyfall, I never got the applause for Bardem - such a hammy (borderline homophobic?) performance

Whishaw also unbearable charisma vacuum - I'd rather Jai Courtbey tbh

lol Ned I would to but I'm not a scholar of this stuff either and have already learned a lot itt

i love ben whishaw!

I find his acting a bit mannered and try-hard. And he's not very good at jokes. Nice to look at though, totally.

(Basing this only on Skyfall and The Hour, which is unfair - he could be great in other stuff)

i'll always remember him from the tv show nathan barley

he's in a new bbc joint called London Spy, it is A+

literally just learned that Sam Worthington went to America and starred in lots of films and video games, also that he married the "where the bloody hell are you" footballer-fucking girl, and they have a baby called Rocket Zot Worthington

waht

I'd give London Spy B- myself. Wishaw was good in it.

they have a baby called Rocket Zot Worthington

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waht

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srsly waht

Not sure it's more ridiculous than being called Lara Bingle-Worthington, in fairness.

at least we now know one moderately interesting thing about human lacuna sam worthington: he lumbered his baby with a fucking ridiculous name

Craig quits! makes for a pretty perfect uh 'quadrilogy' now i guess. i couldn't see how they could come back with Craig after he literally drove off into the sunset.

I got around to watching this last weekend. Felt empty and muddled, with every scene twice as long as it needed to be. Straining for gravitas? Also curiously spare for a movie budgeted around $250 million. Lots of stately on-location camerawork with nothing going on but people walking from one place to another.

Anyway, total snoozefest. Mendes has no idea what fun is.

I'm pretty sure there were only four three things that happened in this film

1. I received programming to get an awesome skeleton mask for next Halloween, because I bet even my craggy-ass potato face could make it look as least as good as D Craig
2. I got a little sweaty about Monica Bellucci that actually has nothing to do with this specific movie
3. 2. Dave Bautista got robbed, even worse than Richard Kiel ever did, maybe
3. James Bond quit, because a blonde

and BTW, fuck #3, that's always been bullshit and it's just as bullshit now, if not more so, starting with an age-appropriate superhot actress and then just dump her for yet another ingenue who also happens to be THE DAUGHTER OF YOUR CRIMINAL PEER what the fuck about janus, "oedipa" and proper tragic resolution don't you people under fucking stand

I hope Waltz as Blofeld comes back and kills them both like the end of OHMSS but with bonus explicit 007 death. That better be the beginning of the next one. Actually, Bautista should do it, and one-eyed Waltz should observe it from an unmolested helicopter. That would only be appropriate to serve as the completely necessary binning of the old 007 in exchange for whatever they come up with next, which should probably not be a white straight man.

This film was dumb, I didn't hate it, but I barely enjoyed it. Would rather re-watch that Bourne knockoff where Rachel Weisz has the bangs.

Oh and yes the theme song for this one is COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE like a perfect example of throwaway bond theme trash, where Adele's Skyfall should probably be right there with Goldfinger or Thunderball as a classic regardless of the franchise, this one is just absolute effluvium on its face. IT WON AN OSCAR because our society is a self-congratulating compost pile.

^^ all OTM except you should have hated it. it didn't think much of its audience.

...Adele's theme song?

Sam Smith's, isn't it (Spectre)?

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Adele's theme is a worse offender

Adele's theme is the very worst theme of the franchise

Adele's theme feels like 1/3 strength watered-down Bond theme pastiche but Smith's is actively atrocious probably beating Cornell's for worst

ha xpost

I like Cornell's. And I don't mind Adele's, though it's not doing anything interesting with the format.

Adele's song is fine. Not great, not terrible.

Sam Smith's would be better if he could still sing it.

Adele's song entire recorded output is fine. Not great, not terrible.

Rolling In The Deep is a banger, the pastiche of Skyfall beats the forgettableness of most of the last 30 years' efforts

That's what I'm saying

although the Duran Duran one wasn't exactly forgettable

now i'm going to have view to a kill stuck in my head again

I've a big soft spot for the A-ha, the Living Daylights being the first Bond I saw in the cinema prob has a lot to do with it.

since duran duran the only ones i'd put above adele are a-ha, gladys knight, and maybe garbage

was really hoping for more Belluci in this movie

although the Duran Duran one wasn't exactly forgettable

It was outside the 30-year window, boom guess what you're old, Mr Bond. Are your joints aching? Is your drive fading?

Skyfall is the best Adele song.

are you here to mess up this thread like the political one with your weird opinions?

This was shockingly bad, really. Just really hollow and boring and badly acted - Batuista's the single good performance but he doesn't get enough scenes. Highlight was Andrew Scott's Wile E Coyote arm-waving as he suspends in the air before plummeting to his death.

Mostly I was just curious about how Bond escapes the exploding M16 building at the end. So - Blofeld has taken the time to make little photostats of Bond's old buddies but he... leaves a giant net for Bond to jump into and save himself? Why is there a net at the bottom of the building anyway?

This is bad and dumb (and anything good about it the new Mission Impossible did a million times better) but I liked and respected it more than Skyfall. PRobably because it's the most phoned in movie Sam Mendes has ever done, meaning it's less Sam Mendes-y.

anything good about it the new Mission Impossible did a million times better

otm, new MI was really good

It's still too Sam Mendes-y!
If his uniting shtick seems to be "look pretty, don't sweat about massive holes, here's a jerk man for your enjoyment!" that seems to be consistent since American Beauty.

*plot holes

Mendez is utter waste

His best bond is still prob the second one, which had zero highlights and far fewer absolutely stupid holes or do-you-see moments and could have passed for a moore-era frippery as opposed to nolanisation of the franchise

New MI is the absolute balls and shouldve swept the oscars

I like how the M:I movies have elaborate setpieces. The Bond movies just go, "Let's do another motorboat bit," or "We could set it in MEXICO."

This was by favourite bad line/tautology, which apparently someone thought was good enough to use as a PR pullquote:

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