I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

gawd, the sound of his belligerent hectoring really takes me back. such a prig.

(bush 41)

never fails...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEbZqvMu2cQ

I remember (vaguely) Watergate from the clipped, urgent voices on the news and Nixon resigning, then going off in his helicopter. I remember nobody liking him. Carter/Ford was the first election I followed: a neighbour a year younger than me precociously wrote to Jimmy Carter with advice about weathering bullies and was invited to the Inauguration. His family were relatively poor - lots of makeshift plastic sheet repair on the windows - his parents, an ex-seminarian and ex-novice who'd run away from Catholicism together, only to wind up as hippie parents to two kids whose oddness was underlined by their many food allergies (a local company found out they were always broke and donated the plane tickets). We liked Carter at home; my mother couldn't stand Ted Kennedy because of something called Chappaquiddick. I don't remember any opinions on the Nixon pardon. I was allowed to stay up and watch the updates about the hostage crisis, by the time it finished I was allowed to babysit and often had to stay at neighbours' houses watching Nightline while the kids slept. My dad's parents (DFL since FDR) had personal experience of Reagan, from my grandfather's time as a brightish young thing trying to break into film, and subsequent trips to visit with their old friends who'd been successful in so doing. He didn't live to see Reagan win, but my grandmother said she'd never vote again if 'that broken-down movie cowboy' won.

I remember vaguely watching network/debate/convention coverage in '84 and'88, watching it with my mom, and then using Doonesbury/Bloom County as prisms to attempt to understand the many stiff candidates vying for power. That G. Ferraro as a VP candidate was a big deal, figuring out how to pronounce the name. Clearest early memories of a presidential contest were '92, probably because I was in high school and reading Time/Newsweek.

First real awareness of someone as the actual president was Reagan, who seemed feeble and remote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JTtI3D6lqk

The old boy is in pretty good form for about an hour, lies and all. What an actor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_jTDUhT0A

it's no "please clap" but...

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/jeb-on-jeb-bush-says-take-a-hike-after-191515752.html

Countdown to Jeb telling someone to "go jump in a lake."

I feel like Jeb is going to start accruing a cult following, nourished by the pathos of his campaign and the futility of his gestures.

He's gonna become a tumblr meme if he isn't one already

https://www.frinkiac.com/meme/S09E20/406338.jpg?lines=Jeb%21

http://i.imgur.com/0rvwnU9.png

None of the Republican debates this year have lived up to the carnage I always root for, although they've had their moments. I go into each one trying to figure out who's the most desperate and who might toss a Hail Mary pass--get really nasty, go off script, turn on the moderators like Gingrich, etc. Can't see that it'll be Trump tonight, who's up in NH and still has last week's embarrassment close at hand. I figure Christie, Bush, or even Cruz, who's way behind in NH.

is network tv news somehow even worse than it used to be? i'm watching the abc pre-debate show and it is maybe one step up from Channel 1, the home room channel made BY teens FOR teens.

10 minutes elapsed while some radio guy made jokes about how deep his voice was and the face made for radio thing, and then they cut back the studio duo, who asked a follow-up question about how deep the guy's voice was

they're talking about the importance of where they are positioned tonight up on stage. turns out for some reason the leading candidates are placed adjacent to each other tonight, so there's gonna be a lot of tension you better believe it

"literally anything could be asked"

Q: only one minute to go til it starts, what's the most important thing left to say? A: don't forget to go to abcnews.go.com/live, you can download a debate BINGO card! wtf is this

I just want rubio's circuitry to go haywire onstage, his eyeballs spinning, smoke coming out his ears, over and over repeating "This administration this administration this administration"

jfc they're talking about bingo again

if rubio's boots come up again, or bush's mom, that's a spot on the card

OMFG
OMFG
OMFGOMFGOMFG

THIS IS AMAZING

HAHAHA

this is epoch defining

those 2 minutes will be enshrined.

those are the greatest 2 minutes

I don't think I've ever seen that before.

tarfumes, you were there when it happened. neil armstrong lands on the moon, 9/11, the opening of that debate

clemenza too. all of us, tonight, together. amazing.

Nothing says "presidential" like "...did...did they say my name?"

ahhh what did i miss

there's no way to proprly explain it. wait for the clip to go viral in about 2 minutes

it involves carson not hearing his name called to walk out, so standing there awkwardly, then others getting called after him and walking around him while he still stands there on the side of the stage, then trump joining him, but they forget to call his name, so he stands there awkwardly as rubio comes out around them, then they tell carson to come out and he does, sorta, then they forget to call Kasich, then..something. it was like a pileup

I gotta blame Carson for all of that, as much as I've come to love his Steven Wright-like demeanor.

like, this is maybe 1% of the mayhem: https://vine.co/v/i1AeiKUrLmY

carson definitely kicked off the process, but then they announced names out of order/forgot to call others too, i think

well this back and forth over the cruz/carson "dropout" business has to be the most boring five minutes of any debate ever so maybe it balances out

Did we really need a reprise of the Obama rant within two minutes from Rubio?

wow rubio is really looking bad here imo. kinda just got sonned hard by chris christie and his answer was pretty much to repeat the same spiel he had a second before, looking nervous and voice cracking.

here we go, the full clip: http://gawker.com/republican-candidates-cant-even-get-walking-to-their-de-1757564618

the first 30 seconds in particular are among the greatest seconds i've ever witnessed

OH MY GOD THIS IS AMAZING

Wow

So jealous of American politics for this stuff, not so much yknow the rest

thanking you so much for that link. best two minutes of campaign television since that one anchor went on that long, long, long walk through the entire CNN studio or whatever to go ask some people in a room a question.

debate itself has gone limp since the christie/rubio throwdown but that was obviously a rare peak.

Rubio pretty much did short-circuit back there

after watching that i feel like a high school QB getting carried around on shoulders after the championship game, BUT he knows that he blew his knee out on the final play. my point is that the rest of my life will never approach that moment, and now he has to move on

oh my fucking god did I just bust a gut watching taht link

Rubio: Barack Obama views America as an arrogant global power...

carson <3 <3 <3