I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

http://gawker.com/this-is-how-hillary-clinton-gets-the-coverage-she-wants-1758019058?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

hm

the enthusiasm is from exactly the kind of generally left-leaning, optimistic, change-oriented college kids you expect to see on campus every single election cycle. see also obama 08.

Exactly this. And see also Clinton 92 for that matter. I was in college then, and was one of those kids.

And by the way, young people, there were articles in the Atlantic back then about how we were a generation of humorless Red Guards grimly devoted to "PC" and hostile to the true exchange of ideas and watch out America when we enter the workforce!

In conclusion, the Atlantic is not actually a land of contrasts

'If Sanders wins the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday, as he is favored to do, it will be because of the youth movement he has inspired. It will be a stunning result in a state that has historically been friendly to Bill and Hillary Clinton, a dramatic overthrow of the Democratic machine by a rebellious new generation of liberals. And if nobody saw this coming, that may be because nobody was listening to what the kids were trying to tell us.'

Everybody saw this coming, he is the senator from the state next door. Next up: Stunning Clinton victory in Arkansas, how come nobody predicted this?

otm, explains howard dean's runaway NH victory 12 years ago as well

Uhm, that example does not disprove my point? Kerry from neighboring state Massachusetts won, and Dean did better than in Iowa.

the fuck is with atlantic's hatred of college kids

"Have you ever had LUNCH with one??"

http://www.legacy.com/UserContent/ns/Photos/Mostel_300x222.jpg

have you ever lunched on one?

hey fred he trailed her by 50 points in NH, what, 6 months ago

you know for someone only 4000 miles away, youre on top of things as if you were posting from Jupiter.

And a lot of people pointed out the predictive ability of primary polls that far out is pretty much nil.

Do people in NH really only like Bernie because he lives in the same region of the country? Usually people in one town hate the people in the next town over.

i don't think that's true outside simpsons episodes

That and sexism.

No, they like him for a bunch of reasons, but like Iowa demographics suit him well, many white liberals, and couple that with him being from neighboring state, and it's not really a stunning upset.

New Hampshire is probably jealous of Vermont for having a mildly more distinctive cultural presence than it has.

Al Gore lost TN in November 2000, so

Actually, he won with 92% of the vote.

Do people in NH really only like Bernie because he lives in the same region of the country?

Short answer: probably not. Sanders is an unconventional candidate, and his lead is also unconventional, even for NH. NH demographics are almost certainly more favorable for Sanders than he'll find in most other states, but it's not easy to summarize why. There's a good analysis here:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/new-hampshire-voters-sanders-clinton

Oh, wait, you're talking about the general election, even though it kinda has nothing do to with my point? Sorry.

http://www.theonion.com/graphic/whats-stake-new-hampshire-52330

Bernie Sanders: A big win in New Hampshire would show doubters that 40 years spent relentlessly championing progressive causes can pay off in a state adjacent to one’s own

Hillary Clinton: Just needs Earth to make a complete rotation Tuesday so that she can move on to South Carolina

reporters and a robot running after Rubio

http://gawker.com/exit-rubio-pursued-by-a-robot-1758037399

I lol'd:
http://www.nytimes.com/live/new-hampshire-primary-2016-election/rubio-joined-by-robots-on-the-trail/

domo arigato, marco roboto

haha

that a large segment of the MSM is on bended knee to Clinton Inc isn't a shocker to most of us, i'd guess, but the mechanics of this are intriguing/sickmaking.

"MUSCULAR"

http://gawker.com/this-is-how-hillary-clinton-gets-the-coverage-she-wants-1758019058

do keep up, old bean

That and sexism.

No, they like him for a bunch of reasons, but like Iowa demographics suit him well, many white liberals, and couple that with him being from neighboring state, and it's not really a stunning upset.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, February 9, 2016 8:02 PM (42 minutes ago)

o cool, we're being lectured about our country's politics by someone who thinks "first lady" is a political position

Liar.

it's not a sexual position, either

the mechanics of this are intriguing/sickmaking

This is literally how every campaign consultant / PR person in this gross town does their job, if they're halfway competent.
But instead of being a story about how many political journalists are lame and pathetic, it's a Hillary story about how she's terrible.

And being a congress member is somehow better than being Secretary of State and First Lady of US and Arkansas.

Look: Hillary Clinton is the most experienced candidate. It's ridiculous to argue otherwise. She might not be a good politician, she's obviously too centrist for most of this board - including me - but stop arguing that she isn't vastly more experienced than Sanders. It's stupid.

― Frederik B, Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:45 AM (2 weeks ago)

i wouldn't describe the article as being particularly charitable to am binder xp

I would still like Freddie B to reveal what sort of political activity he would be engaged in, if he were a citizen living in the USA, including if he would register in one of our current parties and which one, and if he would be voting this year, and for whom.

JD: Where does it say that I think First Lady is a political position? Oh, wait, it doesn't. It's just that you're a dishonest liar.

Fred what are you achieving or hoping to achieve in American politics or American political threads I have to say bud its awful awful strange stuff this

if only there was a Danish politics thread we could clutter up with our ill-informed opinions

that constitutional monarchy gotta go, bitches!

there are a lot of american premier league fans and i don't get that either

So Fred, what did you mean by the first lady post? I feel like stressing the "political position" verbiage is missing the point a bit - I don't think J.D. is alone in thinking it suggested that being a first lady was, in and of itself, a credential of some kind (though I think most of us would agree that Clinton in particular did more as First Lady than essentially any previous presidential spouse). Otherwise your statement doesn't really make sense unless I'm reading it completely wrong.

Danish politics thread 2016

I don't think she did more than Eleanor Roosevelt, even with Eleanor being there 13 years.

remember 'two for the price of one'?

queen of denmark tells it like it is...

http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/2648748_700b.jpg

Uh we have a thread for that scott

what's going on here, are you all bored or something

eh, who cares if he posts about american politics. i remember way back in 2007 or so, i posted something to a UK thread about congestion pricing in London, because i had just spent a week researching it and writing a paper about it for a class. i'm sure whatever i wrote was really dumb (unlike the things i right today looooool right?!!??!), but the only response i got was someone who was like "DO YOU LIVE IN LONDON?! THAN GET TEH FUCK OUT OF HERE, whyyyy i ouuughtta", and i thought it was a really lame response. i spent the next few weeks staring at a floating plastic bag, just twirling in the air, thinking about how i felt at that moment, and self-released an album on myspace about the exchange called Emotions in my Heart. therefore if frederik has opinions about american politics he should be able to express them, even if they're frequently wrong. and in many ways it's often beneficial to have an outsider (sorry to categorize you as an outsider frederik but i just mean in the context of this thread) present because it's useful to reevaluate your opinions on occasion and make sure they still hold up. they may not be Tocqueville-level critiques, but neither is anything that i write and i'm still here so

Well we're in a thread about pre elections to a pre-campaign for a country none of us live in

there is no pre-election or pre-campaign, there is only the election and campaign

speaking of which, who wants to talk 2020 elections?!?!

What does anyone hope to achieve by arguing on the internet? I'm interested in American politics, they're hugely important to the whole world. Plus I've lived in the US for a year. What's hard to understand?

Why are people so focused on personally attacking me instead of looking at my arguments? They happen to be correct most of the time. Oh wait, I just answered my own question?