Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

i think, like mr malone pointed out, that could be taken as a partial admission of guilt.

you'd think they could like, put it on hold "as it relates to the outcome of a currently pending legal action" or somesuch, and certainly would in another situation. ugh.

definitely. whoever decided to just send the bill is a terrible asshole.

Betcha no individual made any decisions about this, and bills like this go out all the time to people beaten up by cops and nobody notices or cares and fuck Cleveland.

^^^

ime most PDs are run like a mafia racket "fuck you, pay me" etc.

actually, reading the NYT article on it, it wasn't just a matter of sending them the bill, it's a lawsuit. so it wasn't just a matter of a local city worker mindlessly sending out the latest set of overdue ambulance bills, it was something that the city's law director would have to know about. man, fuck cleveland.

This is why I am 100% opposed to anything that results in the payment of this bill

Even that kinda law suit is very often rubber stamp send-it-out-the-door SOP, horribly enough.

"All part of standard process" in no way makes the situation any less of a white supremacist horror show, it should go without saying...

Guilty: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/nyregion/officer-peter-liang-convicted-in-fatal-shooting-of-akai-gurley-in-brooklyn.html

good

gross

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/2-Los-Angeles-officers-charged-with-raping-women-6838702.php

No ILX mentions of Joyce Curnell, the South Carolina woman who died in a jail where she was denied medical care, after being arrested and taken from the hospital, all over some unpaid court fees.

www.postandcourier.com/article/20160224/PC16/160229636

It appears that poor/no communication between police, hospital workers, jailers & medical staff was partly to blame; however I would feel remiss if I didn't point out the presence of a private medical services contractor in the mix, because we all know what *that* means

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20160224/PC16/160229636/ not sure why that link didn't take, lemme try one more time for good measure http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20160224/PC16/160229636/

Short version: The state tries to collect the money which it says it is owed by a citizen, but cannot keep from killing her while she is under its roof. No word yet on whether her surviving relatives will be billed for cleaning the deceased's vomit out of the jail cell, or if they're just gonna leave it there

Remember when Brazil seemed slightly exaggerated?

this'll be a fun trial

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-deputies-to-face-charges-over-6862048.php

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-deputies-to-face-charges-over-6862048.php

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, March 1, 2016 10:58 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that is horrible in inhumane and disgusting

that said, i'd watch the movie if walter hill directed it

*and inhumane

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/01/they-stood-over-him-and-watched-him-die-outrage-in-alabama-after-white-cop-kills-unarmed-black-man/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_mm-outrage-105pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

I know there's a danger that any further horror draws attention away from more regular abuses, but Jesus Fucking Christ: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/parents-date-night-passed-car-police-showed

"Parents on a Date Were Asleep in Car When Cops Arrived and Killed Them Both"

JFC

"obviously they were conscious because somebody felt threatened"

yup sure, that's how evidence works! First a cop says something, then it *must* be true! because after all a cop said it.

guilty: https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-trooper-pleads-guilty-shooting-unarmed-black-man-172056556.html

Good.

Anita Alvarez, the prosecutor who helped cover up the video of the murder of Laquan McDonald, might be losing her primary tonight!

seeing reports that alvarez has conceded

Timothy McGinty, who bungled the Tamir Rice case, is in trouble also, but narrowly leading.

on the prosecutor defeats

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamserwer/paying-the-price#.itqN9Nb2k

Was so happy to vote against McGinty yesterday.

Ferguson agrees to the DoJ consent decree: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/15/470598733/ferguson-city-council-accepts-deal-with-justice-department

http://gawker.com/black-maryland-cop-killed-by-fellow-officer-who-thought-1765358994

life imitates wire

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/24/nyregion/prosecutor-wont-seek-prison-for-peter-liang-ex-officer-convicted-in-killing.html?_r=0

In a statement, the district attorney, Ken Thompson, said the case was about “justice and not about revenge,” and urged that the former officer, Peter Liang, receive five years of probation, including six months of home confinement, when he is sentenced next month.

Mr. Liang, 28, who was convicted of second-degree manslaughter, could be sentenced to up to 15 years in prison.

“Mr. Liang has no prior criminal history and poses no future threat to public safety,” Mr. Thompson said. “Because his incarceration is not necessary to protect the public, and due to the unique circumstances of this case, a prison sentence is not warranted.”

Not sure what to think about that. I'm definitely on the side that he deserved to lose his job and be prosecuted to show that this is not acceptable. If a private citizen did something similar, they would almost certainly do prison time. But the argument is true that now that he is not a police officer, it's unlikely he poses a threat or a likelihood of further incident.

i'm not a big jail fan for anyone and would think it is reasonable if he treats others the same way (which i doubt but there is likely no analogous situation) because manslaughter doesn't always need a prison sentence imo. to hear a prosecutor raise the idea that incarceration is meant to protect the public is ummm i don't know...lol? like you don't do that moral calculus when you put a drug offender in jail, you just suddenly have empathy for this guy and his horrible mistake. obviously if a normal person would get like 5 years for something similar, incarceration is not imposed to protect the public in that situation, he'd be getting out pretty soon. it's a punishment.

but it's messed up & sends a message that this person he killed doesn't matter as much as other innocent people who die, idk

that's why i don't believe in "justice"!

This could go in a bunch of threads, I'm aware.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/21/death-by-gentrification-the-killing-that-shamed-san-francisco

Very sad, very thought-provoking; thanks.

i'm not a big jail fan for anyone and would think it is reasonable if he treats others the same way (which i doubt but there is likely no analogous situation) because manslaughter doesn't always need a prison sentence imo. to hear a prosecutor raise the idea that incarceration is meant to protect the public is ummm i don't know...lol? like you don't do that moral calculus when you put a drug offender in jail, you just suddenly have empathy for this guy and his horrible mistake. obviously if a normal person would get like 5 years for something similar, incarceration is not imposed to protect the public in that situation, he'd be getting out pretty soon. it's a punishment.

― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:27 AM (5 hours ago

iirc ken thompson, the brooklyn DA, is doing some pretty progressive stuff with nonviolent drug crimes and trying to get people's outstanding warrants off the books, but i can't find the links right now. i'm pretty sure it's the same guy

but yeah, one wonders what the recommendation would be had a civilian accidentally killed a police officer

http://gawker.com/please-dont-shoot-me-man-begged-before-cop-shot-and-1767973196

1) this clearly seems like an incident that should result in an indictment
2) I expect this will result in an indictment because the victim was a white man
3) I continue to be enraged by previous incidents involving black people that have not resulted in indictments

there was body camera footage, which seems likely to have played a role. he's been charged with 2nd degree murder

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/nyregion/bratton-has-strong-concerns-about-arrest-of-a-mailman-in-brooklyn.html?_r=0

Over the past six years at least three of the officers involved have been named in federal civil rights suits alleging false arrest, among other claims. Most of the cases remain active, and such suits are not uncommon.

http://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2016/March/jamar-clark-decision

Well this is fucking bullshit

yup. fucking bullshit.

to my point

btw I was reading the earlier part of this thread to remind myself of everything that has been piling up over the past few years and can we all agree that if Vic Perry was one of the worst posters we've ever had