I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

lol remember in the seventies and eighties when Schwarznegger would claim he'd amend the Constitution.

The moment he became governor it seemed plausible. For a moment.

but you know, nixon. although maybe nixon didn't come across quite as oily in 1968? i wasn't around.

― wizzz! (amateurist),

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qRZvlZZ0DY

i'd elect nixon in a heartbeat compared to any of these fuckers in the republican primaries

which is basically how i feel about clinton

economic crisis would benefit trump more than anyone, which is kinda terrifying. at least among republican voters, who consistently place him far above the others on questions like "who is best suited to handle the economy?" economic crisis? trump must be the best guy, because he's a businessman and he's rich! it's idiotic if you spent more than 5 seconds thinking about it, but...

not sure how much it would benefit trump in a general election though. i guess it would depend on his opponent.

lol crut lolololololol

Trump will be a veep-less president. He's in such fantastic shape, what would even be the point?

Trump would also do wonderful work in the face of an economic crisis. He'd just ask his dad for a small, million dollar loan and we'd be set.

didn't Trump have a tete-a-tete with Christie right before Christie dropped out?

not that means anything necessarily, but jfc could you imagine?

I guess if they want to double down on the loudmouth bully vote.

omg dlh the full paragraph is even more insane-o!!

But surely that overwrought action-adventure tale was a strange flashback to an episode from Hillary’s youth, as reported by Mr. Bernstein: the usually stingy Hugh Rodham had once treated his wife and daughter to a shopping spree at a New York department store. Under tight time pressure from Hugh, the two women pulled off their shoes and ran laughing and barefoot together through the store. The non-existent Bosnian sniper fire may have been a shadowy memory of the strafing dictates of an authoritarian father, against whom mother and daughter were united in conspiratorial defiance.

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/27/camille_paglia_hillarys_blame_men_first_feminism_may_prove_costly_in_2016/

makes me wonder, in the few classes she still must teach, what students can get away with in their papers

i could see trump picking a woman to quell some of his misogyny. idk who it would be though

Fiorina, duh!

(not a dig, just a joke)

"united in business"

Trump might do okay with Huckabee. Someone NOT eastern or northern (not Christie), NOT a current primary opponent (not Cruz or Carson). Someone with at least some gov experience.

What would be smartest for him would be to do demographic jujitsu by picking a female Republican governor - Jan Brewer, Susana Martinez, Mary Fallin. Not Haley, who dissed Trump in her tepid SOTU response. Not, of course, Palin who has the scent of loserdom.

Mia Love? That would be left-field and kinda brilliant.

Brewer would be clever if he's still on the border as the main issue. Get all the frothing nativists out there.

its very helpful that the URL has "camille paglia" in it so i can make the decision to avoid reading the article without accidentally clicking on it first.

Of course once Hillary Clinton wins the GOP will be re-invigorated with an all-consuming revengeance to get out the vote ensuring GOP positions across the land in a local and federal referendum. If you thought they spitefully blocked everything the fresh-faced Obama tried to do, picture that with a party that has 30+ years of anti-Clinton material to work with.

I can see Bernie winning the national election. He has proven he can beat Hillary. If he is the Democratic candidate then he will inherit the prized Democrat votes that many assume just naturally belong to Hillary.

He has proven he can beat Hillary.

in... new hampshire.

would be sobering if trump won and picked for VP... sarah palin. she has endorsed him, after all.

i made the Obama-to-Jill Stein pivot after he threw Rev Wright under the bus + other odious shit

On the contrary, it would be intoxicating

"He has proven he can beat Hillary." = "He has proven he can beat Hillary in the liberal white northeastern state that is located next to his."

in... new hampshire.

which....is a state that votes in the general election

so is south carolina!

i wonder how much of the old-jewish-lady florida vote bernie can pick up.

on the one hand, he's a 70-something jewish guy! he speaks like doiby dickles!

on the other hand, he's a "socialist".

i'm all for not buying into the idea that bernie's victory/margin in new hampshire are totally meaningless (esp. given the stats showing him doing well with working-class voters), but yeah adam i think you're maybe overselling it.

Camille Paglia's incisive and iconoclastic writing on politics and pop culture has been part of Salon's fabric from the beginning.

Trump/Palin wins in the category of "Ticket most toxic for the middle"

goole: another bit i resisted quoting was the place she's suddenly taken to by a stray remark of bill's that hillary "kicks his ass"

nixon seemed odious to the public and really was mocked by the "establishment" but he inspired a lot more personal loyalty (often in people similarly mocked) than cruz seems to be able to muster from almost anyone

My Jewish grandma was a lifelong CP member, just sayin!

on the other hand, he's a "socialist".

this means squat unless you grew up in the era of Cold War propaganda. i missed that by a few years. socialism doesn't scare me.

dark horse Trump VP candiate: Joe Arpaio

god, that would be a shitshow

i wouldn't say bernie's win is meaningless either! i just don't think it foretells an overall victory! if bernie comes w/in 10–15 % points of clinton in south carolina i'll be impressed.

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this means squat unless you grew up in the era of Cold War propaganda.

like... old jewish ladies.

obv i'm stereotyping! my mom's an old jewish lady, and she's a socialist herself.

this is a weird thing I never thought I would say but Schwarzenegger is a) smarter than Trump and b) not really conservative either (he believes in climate change!)

I've read some about Schwarzenegger-as-governor and it strikes me that he really wasn't bad at all, if he was eligible he would almost certainly be the best option here

i could see trump picking a woman to quell some of his misogyny. idk who it would be though

Kate Upton?

Also: Nixon was smart when he wanted to be.

jenny mccarthy!

Trump/Dash '16

(also even public distaste for nixon could eventually be converted/perverted into an our-bastard affection, whereas ted cruz's kind of slimy is not even the kind of slimy you can really imagine will bring the hippies and blacks to heel)

Omarosa!!

(Your generalization was valid, amateurist, I just like to talk about my abuela)

:)

Nixon may have been slimy, but his face didn't look like it was melting

Karl, Arpaio would be megalulz. Thinking about this raises the question about his sincerity on immigration.

Trump plumped for the border as his signature issue as a strategic move, so as to be on everyone's right in the primaries. No one remembers him being vocal about this before, right? So he may abandon it just as quickly when is not seen to be a general-election winner. If his running mate is yoked to that issue then so is his entire campaign.

If on the other hand he really is sincerely committed to immigration as His Issue, then why stop at Jan Brewer? Arpaio indeed.

i'm positive Trump is sincere about immigration

Nixon may have been slimy, but his face didn't look like it was melting

― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous),

but that's what killed him in the JFK debates!