I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

Clunky TV frame aside, I think this is pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XriXDtfqCg

The subpoena also asked for records related to Huma Abedin, a longtime Clinton aide who for six months in 2012 was employed simultaneously by the State Department, the foundation, Clinton’s personal office, and a private consulting firm with ties to the Clintons.

gah this is so sketchy

this kinda thing is why the whole "ive been vetted!" gambit is bullshit to me

this specific thing seems like another non-scandal to me, I mean who cares really but it does add to the general untrustworthy impression

i could see trump picking a woman to quell some of his misogyny. idk who it would be though

He's already said he's thinking of tapping his daughter.

A+

So not only is Clinton going to probably nominate a lot of "real winners" but anybody she tries to appoint is then going to get pilloried and filibustered until the sun burns out.
The first HC administration is going to be run by autopilot (acting) and nobody's going to be able to decide to do anything. Awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyhfJTFJHu8&feature=youtu.be

pretty good ad!

Have there been any good longform inside-the-Sanders-campaign pieces written yet? I feel like we got so much of that with Obama and Axelrod, and while I usually don't enjoy it, I kind of crave a more insidery look at Sanders and his operation.

Any predictions on how many times Hillary will preface a reply with "Look..."?

I'm nervous

xpost That is a great ad.

TAGEVAH

Clinton's point about Scott Walker was pretty solid--didn't get a very specific response from Sanders.

agreed.

I must say, Hillary's yellow sci-fi outfit is awesome

ugh this pivot by Sanders away from race to back to economics is terrible

As much as I do look forward to confrontation at these things, Judy Woodruff and Gwen Ifill are about a trillion times better as moderators than everyone else.

The staying "on message" almost to absurdity is what made me compare him to W. It worked for W though!

God, I thought Sanders was about to finish that with "...and you, madam, are no Ted Kennedy."

Ha the same thought crossed my mind

why is Sanders in such a bad mood?

I mean, more than usual

dance with the one that brought you

I'm feeling grumpy tonight too, so I'm feeling the sanders vibe right now

"anybody she tries to appoint is then going to get pilloried and filibustered until the sun burns out"

This will be different from the rosy reception that would be given to Sanders's appointees how?

Or, for that matter, the reception that has been given to Obama's appointees?

Very disorienting the way Sanders said "blown me away"--he was imitating Larry David imitating George Steinbrenner.

here we go again artful smear etc

oh maybe not, she's not taking the bait

why is Sanders in such a bad mood?
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, February 11, 2016 7:57 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Because he understands that at this point he can do nothing other than hurt the dem party, even if he wins the fucking presidency. I mean, he's had almost 30 years to get the ball rolling on any of the things he talks about yet he has no record of accomplishing anything in the system... What happened? He doesn't know how to do anything other than talk, and even he is probably sick of hearing himself say the same shit over and over again. I don't think he wants the presidency tbh.

It's been pretty tame so far

You're right sleepingbag, that's why he's in a bad mood

I'm just so sick of this guy

OMG SO OVER BERNIE

I mean, he's had almost 30 years to get the ball rolling on any of the things he talks about yet he has no record of accomplishing anything in the system...

― • (sleepingbag), Friday, February 12, 2016 3:10 AM (5 minutes ago)

see also: hillary clinton

I like Bernie. I like Hillary. Watching this debate though, I don't get the feeling that one is any more straightforward, blunt or honest than the other. If that's the selling point for Bernie, I don't hear it tonight. It sounds like two careful, well-rehearsed, skillful politicians trying to present themselves in the best light, being evasive and telling half-truths when the situation requires it. Hey, it's politics!

Except one of them signed off on W's Iraq War, just a tiny little detail

Related to nothing going on, but I just remembered that jebbush.com redirects to trump's website. That is still one of the funniest things of this entire election.

That was enough for me in 2008, but now, eight years late, that doesn't feel like the decisive issue it felt like then. Maybe I've just forgotten how totally screwed up that whole situation was. Also, I felt like Obama was a lot more electable in 2008 than Bernie is now.

xp

Bernie needed to have a better showing than this, if anyone in SC or NV is watching

Sanders is of course a politician and of course thinks about his messaging. I think he comes off as relatively honest and straightforward for a politician because of things like having the cojones to call himself a "democratic socialist" when dems have been running away from such associations for decades. Also because he just doesn't even try to pull off the whole "I boned up on foreign policy so I could give good debate answers" schtick. But he's still playing some kind of game, you can't not and get this far.

Whoa! That exchange will be what's remembered from tonight.

Bernie just said that he's proud that he's not a friend of Henry Kissinger. Don't know if the electorate will care about it that much but so glad he said it.

yeah, stuff like that, exactly

"Not my kind of guy"--that was pretty great.

not my kind of guy lol

feel the bern

my grandmother would have enjoyed that line

hell yes

cant tell if hrc showcasing her foreign policy cred inspires confidence or channel flipping (bc i dont understand america at all in this election p much)

I don't remember Kissinger coming up in previous debates, unless I missed it. Clinton seemed quite unprepared.