Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

wow someone cracked the code

that creative writing 101 class is paying off

That diagram thing is ripped off of Dan Harmon's story cycle and it applies to most storytelling not just marvel stuff, there's a long article somewhere where he goes through it step by step which I found really illuminating. The marvel films are bad because they execute the formula in a way that feels joyless and perfunctory.

Whatever you say, Mozart.

Joseph Campbell came up with it. Dan Harmon's a hack

That graph is in fact taken directly from a Dan Harmon powerpoint. Note that it has exact page numbers for each event.

Yeah, obviously it's based off Campbell's hero's journey. That picture is copied from Harmon's modified version rather than Campbell's original though.

More love for Agent Carter - it's been incredibly entertaining this season. Reminds me of all the super-fun genre shows of the early 00s.

It's like Angel without the retroactively annoying Whedon-iness.

Yeah, that's a pretty good comparison. It pulls off that neat Whedonesque trick of being fun and whimsical but also dark, and it has real characters that the audience cares about. Too bad Hayley Atwell apparently has another show in the pipeline.

With the low number of episodes per season for AC, it shouldn't be impossible for her to be in two different shows, though I guess American TV actors don't normally do that?

Eeesh, that new show sounds dreadful

she could easily do both but agent carter's ratings are apparently much worse this season than last season (and they were pretty bad last season) and the head of abc got fired so it doesn't look likely to come back. it'd be awesome if netflix somehow resurrected it in their marvel fever but i don't think it really has a cult. a shame, as it's a really really fun show. i really can't figure out how more ppl wouldn't want to watch a show where you get to look at hayley atwell kicking ass and wearing great clothes.

how about u wait for for it to be actually cancelled before u bust out the eulogy captain buzzkill

but yeah this season has been fantastic

is agent carter on netflix?

It is in here at least, new episodes every week.

I agree with your entire statement, balls, but I'd even just say: i really can't figure out how more ppl wouldn't want to watch a show where you get to look at hayley atwell kicking ass and wearing great clothes.

fedoras leave a stink wherever they go now

Lol "captain buzzkill".

Last two eps were terrific - the plot was actually exciting. Hayley Atwell gets a lot of the cred, which she deserves, natch, but the direction is pretty great too. Like, better than it needs to be for this sort of show.

Also enjoyed the reverse "you should smile more" and all those bits of business.

i'm super into the way they keep elevating other female characters, like whitney frost is becoming more & more fascinating, and dottie underwood has been really dope the last 2 eps, and even when peggy convinces sousa to bring along the cute receptionist as a backup asskicker ... it's just all great

and i like the howard stark appearances because dominic whasisface is soooo great in that role ugh i love him

he's pretty entertaining but his american accent is fucking atrocious

Interesting to see how he'll do in the Preacher TV adaptation, where his character is supposed to be as Texan as one gets. (At least if it's faithful to the comic.)

He's a pretty limited actor but he's fun as Stark. Jarvis is fun too, which is super surprising as the same guy gave the worst performance in the history of TV on Broadchurch. Presumably not his fault - he's like a different actor here. The only guy letting the show down is the handsome blonde NY police dude who has no presence whatsoever.

Preacher is probably my most anticipated show this year. Really hoping they don't balls it up like they have with Lucifer

I can't imagine any situation in which they make anything with more than a superficial resemblance. I mean preacher embodied with word of god, hitman girlfriend, profane Irish vampire, I can see just about making it, but inbred idiots descendants of Jesus, fragging, armadillo-buggering, not to mention the actual end of the plot.

I read somewhere that Odin Quincanon is going to be one of the major villains of the series, a guy who if you remember turned up in probably the most boring Preacher storyline way way into the run.

Yeah, there's no way a story that ends with the most blasphemous, anti-Christian way imaginable is gonna be adapted faithfully on American mainstream television, even in the 2010s.

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Oh dear, I hope not! The Quincannon dude and that whole arc was a perfect example of Ennis' worse tendencies. At least if they'd focus on the Good Ol' Boys and Jesse's grandma as the main villains, they might get some compelling stuff out of it without getting too extreme for television.

This is probably the wrong thread for this, dunno if it's worth starting a Preacher TV adaptation thread?

Also, adapting the special where Cassidy meets the stereotypically Gothic vampire guy might provide some good laughs, though sadly since that comic was published that whole "lol vampires" theme has already become worn out, what with all the Twilight backlash.

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We had this thread over at ILC with some discussion on the series, I guess we can use it:

preacher: the movie

Yeah, that can't be true, not only is the only good scene with him unfilmable, he is possibly literally the only villain with nothing to do with the big plot.

xp er, the comic is about vampires being worn out, it's a pisstake of Anne Rice.

Lots of reports that Jackie Earle Haley has been cast as him.

xp er, the comic is about vampires being worn out, it's a pisstake of Anne Rice.

Yes, but what I meant was that even parodying Anne Rice style vampires has become a cliche now, which it still wasn't when that comic came out in the 90s.

Marvel has found its newest superhero: Game of Thrones actor Finn Jones has landed the coveted series lead in Iron Fist.

Jones, who plays Ser Loras Tyrell on the HBO hit, will take on the role of the martial arts master in the upcoming Netflix series, EW has learned.

Iron Fist is set to be the fourth Marvel and Netflix collaboration, following Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and the forthcoming Luke Cage. Scott Buck (Dexter) has been tapped as showrunner. Marvel plans to eventually unite all its heroes in a series called The Defenders.

hoping moon knight shows up somewhere

Civil War Lego have been shipped! :D

So, sadly, the ratings for Agent Carter season 2 were apparently abysmal. Gee, I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that anyone new to the show could only access the first season through Amazon and literally nowhere else on earth.

This is tangentially related, sure, but a ton of MCU people make appearances and this ratcheted my crush on Hayley Atwell up to the level of 'hardcore', so fukkit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wqmMuHP0vI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV_nv83e0yY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dys2Mv45LKE

adorbs

she is so rad

i hope they dont cancel AC, it's seriously my favorite tv show

Both seasons of Agent Carter are available on Netflix in here, apparently the Amazon exclusive thing is only in the USA. I wonder whether season 2's international ratings on Netflix are as bad as on ABC? Because there might still be the chance it will come back as a Netflix exclusive, a la Arrested Development. Certainly it seems the writers were hoping for more seasons, since they ended it with a big cliffhanger, as well as some other unresolved plot threads.

That said, IMO the season two finale was a bit of a letdown, both the big bad and the larger conspiracy were defeated a bit too easily. But overall AC is still the best of the Marvel series, and better than most of the movies too. So I hope there'll be more!

Yeah, I was perhaps being uncharacteristically hyperbolic. The Amazon exclusivity is true in the US but that's apparently not the case everywhere. I own every single other MCU thing on DVD/BluRay (SHIELD season two was an exclusive, too, but was briefly discounted over the holidays) but I'm still waiting until the either the price or the exclusivity drops before buying the first season of Agent Carter. It was a dumb decision to make with fledgling series that have a limited fanbase.

Just from my own vantage, I'm actually having trouble hanging on to all the threads. Multiple Netflix series, multiple network series, multiple platforms, set air dates vs. binge, but the movies in the mix - I think there is a practical threshold that I have hit. I was already happy to throw Agents of Shield under the bus, haven't had a chance to see a second of Agent Carter, never finished Daredevil and hope to watch Jessica Jones one of these days but am in no hurry.

It's understandable. Thankfully, Marvel has catered both to the superfans by putting out loads of quality product and to the casual fans by making each discrete product stand pretty well on its own. And SHIELD is the only MCU thing thus far that requires any serious time commitment.

Well but then again: http://nerdreactor.com/2016/03/04/exclusive-agent-carter-to-be-renewed-for-season-3/

quietly yay but will wait for official announce just in case

But overall AC is still the best of the Marvel series, and better than most of the movies too.

Tuomas otm here. Imo Agent Carter is the best thing to come out if the MCU.

There was a brief moment in the rumor mill that Hayley Atwell wanted to play the Doctor, which I am totally in support of