thread of getting sw0le

oh man i get spooked enough under the bar, i don't need to see any of that

I have come to really enjoy lifting youtubes though, even/especially the maniacs and all the intra-fitness squabbles.

― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, February 19, 2016 12:29 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah they r fun for sure, i often watch documentaries on youtube (of which it has an incredible section btw) and im frequently sidetracked by the lifting videos in my recommended pane, im all just one lifting video first

who here fs w the foam roller

― lag∞n, Friday, February 19, 2016 12:29 PM (1 minute ago)

i have but i never know if it actually does anything to help.

like for sore quads i'd roll them out but idk

yeah ive never done it consistently enough, it feels like its working

that reminds me: a month or so ago a guy asked me to spot him. he was a big dude, and was doing 225 on the incline bench. (my new gym has a nice incline bench with a platform for spotters)

first he says "i'm pretty tired, i'm only gonna get 2." then he takes a suicide grip. after he does 2 he's like "1 more 1 more." dude please do not involve me in the breaking of all your facial bones today thx. it all worked out but i hate that shit.

i've watched youtubes on muscle fascia release and it's kinda hooky xp

def not too into any faces of death type shit

A lot of it is just people doing really stupid-looking things with exercise equipment or having terrible and ridiculous form. There are very few that look like possible severe injuries. It's a pretty base pleasure though and barely even a pleasure.

I just found out yesterday that my own squat form is a lot worse than I thought (I'm hitting depth but pronating inward and rounding my back a little), so I have no real place to laugh. Time to dial back the weight again. Progress is slow.

i wld watch videos of ppl falling over def, just no major injuries

haha starrett has some interesting views on mobility some are really good and others are out there.

I've been reading Becoming a Supple Leopard, not a leopard yet btw, and yeah he mixes ideas and methods that are solid and constructive with a few other ideas and methods that I have no desire to test on myself. I've looked at a couple of his YouTube videos but basically only know the book, so I'm kind of clueless about where he's coming from -- healing the CrossFit halt and lame, I guess?

The "Principles and Theory" section of his book is good, I find myself trying to apply his ideas about spinal mechanics and hip/shoulder torque in a lot of different situations. OTOH, damn, bro, would it kill you to put in a few citations? It's okay to admit you've read some research. The book doesn't even mention where he went to school or what he studied, though he's Dr. Kelly Starrett on the cover and mentions his physical therapy practice. I'm sure his credentials are fine but his jocular writing style feels anti-academic, like he's afraid he'll lose readers if they see a footnote.

I've had some good results fixing a jacked-up shoulder with some of his exercises, so more power to him.

the fitness reddit wiki is surprisingly usefu for getting started djp

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/wiki/getting_started#wiki_adding_exercise

I think it might be time for me to start with this mobility stuff, therein might be the key to my squat problems.

more mobility is always a good thing, but my flexibility is awful and my squats are fine fwiw

I borrowed the Starrett book, I was pretty eeeeehhhh on the whole thing. Like the Paleo people, fetishizing and over-complicating something ('mobility is important' 'eat whole foods') that should be super simple.

Everyone over the age of 30 should probably be doing daily stretching and/or yoga is a much simpler way to put it, but then you can't sell an enormous $40 hardback I guess.

i think mark rippetoe has a hot bod and i would like to hug him you guys are so weird

it's a body that says i'm strong and i love to eat fu

the thing is, from a purely aesthetic view as opposed to a practical strength view, I am already well on my way to having current Mark Rippetoe's bod

I swung past that bod after about 10 months of serious traditional bodybuilding, and I started as a fat ass. You want strength, go to a weight lifter; you want to look good, go to a body builder; you want fitness and back health, go to a physical therapist. For best results, combine -- my trainer is a competitive body builder with an advanced PT degree.

I've actually now gained 10 lbs since I started lifting. Some of it is definitely muscle, it's clearly visible, and since I've been lifting like 7 months that kind of gain would be pretty normal from what I've read. I think the last couple of lbs of it may have been fat though - pants fit a little tighter this morning in the waist.

Is it possible that you are wearing your pants a little higher now -- at the waist rather than below the gut? Happened to me and I was pleased when my partner pointed it out.

isn't the waist... below the gut already

waist vs hips, I think

ok i'm an adult man and i have not known what a waist was until now :/

vindicated by wikipedia, sorta:

In modern clothing the region referred to as the waist is considerably below the waist as defined anatomically. With the advent of pants and skirts that do not require support from above, the clothing waist moved down to a position where the body starts to expand to form the buttocks and a support is therefore available. The waistline of clothing is now generally well below the anatomical waist.

Your confusion is not insane, at least.

The thing is that both huge-gutted fatsos and simply big dudes who are reasonably fit but a little chunky can both wear pants with a 40" waist, but the relation of pants button to belly button will be very different. Dig?

the difference between my gut and my 'clothing waist' is the reason MY PANTS KEEP FALLING THE FUCK DOWN

what is my workout?

Okay I'm on this it's fun I go like 4x a week now beginners gains are fun but like how is anyone suppose to learn form? Like I got an hour's training thing and the whole time I was trying to learn to squat and the guy would randomly say "that's wrong" or "that's right" on movements that felt exactly the same? And like every youtube video is like "don't do it this way, you'll get hurt" and I can barely see what's going on when it's on the screen in front of me, let alone when I'm going it.

get someone else to take a video of you, compare it w/yatoobs, see what you think

Is that really what people generally do?

i don't know, that's what i did! and you know what? i looked good, dog

in many exercises it seems that good form is a corollary to good posture. the bad form I tend to see (including my own at times) is a direct result of people so used to hunching over they don't even realize they are doing it and basically it takes a lot of mental re-wiring to overcome that.

i think it's a bit unproductive to look at rippletoad's current condition and hold that against his training advice. the guy's old and full of injuries from a long lifting career. kinda like with so many olympic coaches. you don't have to go that hard, and his dietary/lifting advice for beginners has not much to do with how he looks now.

im sure his advice is great for getting strong, just got to be sure thats what u want

the other part of this is that my wife has flat-out told me that super muscley bodybuilder types terrify her and I would like it if the end point of my fitness regime didn't terrify my wife

don't worry about it, getting ripped out like that takes a total revamp of your whole diet & life

Oh I know; my oldest brother was a bodybuilder. His eating habits/regimen was something I viewed with equal measures of awe and horror.

All I'm really saying is that I am not going to knowingly eat 6000 calories a day.

yeah getting ripped is extremely hard, getting strong and fat on the other hand

i just want that long lean muscle everyone keeps talking about

just looking to build a long lean muscular peen any tips appreciated

1,100-1,200 reps w no weights is what I'm hearing builds prime lean muscle the fastest

oh my god this guy in the gym yesterday. repeatedly doing some type of high knee raise in the middle of the floor. poor guy is standing there waiting for him so he can get by with his barbell like um...can i just switch places with you...i wanted to add BECAUSE YOU CAN DO YOUR STUPID MARCH LITERALLY ANYWHERE YOU ASS

Hi everyone! I am popping back in here and am in such need of advice! I am looking at two gyms this week and joining one of them. My goals are:

Lose 15-20 pounds
Maybe get some muscle definition and slight toning, wanna look lean and healthy but don't need 2 get sw0le or build mass all that much, idk
Not modify my diet too much, just sorta work out to keep my weight in check, idk maybe I'll cut down how much I eat and add a few protein shakes shakes here and there

I plan on going 3 days a week for I guess, what, like an hour? Is that normal? but I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO!!! I have spent days googling and trying to read advice and I just have no idea where to start. I am so desperate for like someone to hold my hand and show me what to do so that I don't hurt myself. Can I just use machines? Free weights scare me.

Do I do different things on different days? Do I do all of body stuff every day? oh god what

If you want to lose 15-20 pounds you'll either need to modify your diet considerably or engage in a lot more intensive aerobic activity. If you want to get stronger then I'd say Starting Strength is a good starting point.

do yoga and eat only flax seed

xp alex I bike abt 7-10 miles a day in spring and summer to/from work so I will be doing that v soon

like i'm not rly unhappy w/ my strength or anything but I want my v small belly to git and idk it'd be cool to have petite biceps who knows. also my lung capacity is 50% what it should be (bcz ribcage) so while I have a good amt of endurance, intense anything (like sprinting a block) makes me very very winded

in many exercises it seems that good form is a corollary to good posture. the bad form I tend to see (including my own at times) is a direct result of people so used to hunching over they don't even realize they are doing it and basically it takes a lot of mental re-wiring to overcome that.

― ryan, Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:13 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is otm, especially the "mental re-wiring" part -- trying to learn lifting is really making me more aware of certain brain-body connections and of how hard it can be to do seemingly simple kinds of movement that I'm not used to.