Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

fedoras leave a stink wherever they go now

Lol "captain buzzkill".

Last two eps were terrific - the plot was actually exciting. Hayley Atwell gets a lot of the cred, which she deserves, natch, but the direction is pretty great too. Like, better than it needs to be for this sort of show.

Also enjoyed the reverse "you should smile more" and all those bits of business.

i'm super into the way they keep elevating other female characters, like whitney frost is becoming more & more fascinating, and dottie underwood has been really dope the last 2 eps, and even when peggy convinces sousa to bring along the cute receptionist as a backup asskicker ... it's just all great

and i like the howard stark appearances because dominic whasisface is soooo great in that role ugh i love him

he's pretty entertaining but his american accent is fucking atrocious

Interesting to see how he'll do in the Preacher TV adaptation, where his character is supposed to be as Texan as one gets. (At least if it's faithful to the comic.)

He's a pretty limited actor but he's fun as Stark. Jarvis is fun too, which is super surprising as the same guy gave the worst performance in the history of TV on Broadchurch. Presumably not his fault - he's like a different actor here. The only guy letting the show down is the handsome blonde NY police dude who has no presence whatsoever.

Preacher is probably my most anticipated show this year. Really hoping they don't balls it up like they have with Lucifer

I can't imagine any situation in which they make anything with more than a superficial resemblance. I mean preacher embodied with word of god, hitman girlfriend, profane Irish vampire, I can see just about making it, but inbred idiots descendants of Jesus, fragging, armadillo-buggering, not to mention the actual end of the plot.

I read somewhere that Odin Quincanon is going to be one of the major villains of the series, a guy who if you remember turned up in probably the most boring Preacher storyline way way into the run.

Yeah, there's no way a story that ends with the most blasphemous, anti-Christian way imaginable is gonna be adapted faithfully on American mainstream television, even in the 2010s.

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Oh dear, I hope not! The Quincannon dude and that whole arc was a perfect example of Ennis' worse tendencies. At least if they'd focus on the Good Ol' Boys and Jesse's grandma as the main villains, they might get some compelling stuff out of it without getting too extreme for television.

This is probably the wrong thread for this, dunno if it's worth starting a Preacher TV adaptation thread?

Also, adapting the special where Cassidy meets the stereotypically Gothic vampire guy might provide some good laughs, though sadly since that comic was published that whole "lol vampires" theme has already become worn out, what with all the Twilight backlash.

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We had this thread over at ILC with some discussion on the series, I guess we can use it:

preacher: the movie

Yeah, that can't be true, not only is the only good scene with him unfilmable, he is possibly literally the only villain with nothing to do with the big plot.

xp er, the comic is about vampires being worn out, it's a pisstake of Anne Rice.

Lots of reports that Jackie Earle Haley has been cast as him.

xp er, the comic is about vampires being worn out, it's a pisstake of Anne Rice.

Yes, but what I meant was that even parodying Anne Rice style vampires has become a cliche now, which it still wasn't when that comic came out in the 90s.

Marvel has found its newest superhero: Game of Thrones actor Finn Jones has landed the coveted series lead in Iron Fist.

Jones, who plays Ser Loras Tyrell on the HBO hit, will take on the role of the martial arts master in the upcoming Netflix series, EW has learned.

Iron Fist is set to be the fourth Marvel and Netflix collaboration, following Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and the forthcoming Luke Cage. Scott Buck (Dexter) has been tapped as showrunner. Marvel plans to eventually unite all its heroes in a series called The Defenders.

hoping moon knight shows up somewhere

Civil War Lego have been shipped! :D

So, sadly, the ratings for Agent Carter season 2 were apparently abysmal. Gee, I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that anyone new to the show could only access the first season through Amazon and literally nowhere else on earth.

This is tangentially related, sure, but a ton of MCU people make appearances and this ratcheted my crush on Hayley Atwell up to the level of 'hardcore', so fukkit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wqmMuHP0vI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV_nv83e0yY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dys2Mv45LKE

adorbs

she is so rad

i hope they dont cancel AC, it's seriously my favorite tv show

Both seasons of Agent Carter are available on Netflix in here, apparently the Amazon exclusive thing is only in the USA. I wonder whether season 2's international ratings on Netflix are as bad as on ABC? Because there might still be the chance it will come back as a Netflix exclusive, a la Arrested Development. Certainly it seems the writers were hoping for more seasons, since they ended it with a big cliffhanger, as well as some other unresolved plot threads.

That said, IMO the season two finale was a bit of a letdown, both the big bad and the larger conspiracy were defeated a bit too easily. But overall AC is still the best of the Marvel series, and better than most of the movies too. So I hope there'll be more!

Yeah, I was perhaps being uncharacteristically hyperbolic. The Amazon exclusivity is true in the US but that's apparently not the case everywhere. I own every single other MCU thing on DVD/BluRay (SHIELD season two was an exclusive, too, but was briefly discounted over the holidays) but I'm still waiting until the either the price or the exclusivity drops before buying the first season of Agent Carter. It was a dumb decision to make with fledgling series that have a limited fanbase.

Just from my own vantage, I'm actually having trouble hanging on to all the threads. Multiple Netflix series, multiple network series, multiple platforms, set air dates vs. binge, but the movies in the mix - I think there is a practical threshold that I have hit. I was already happy to throw Agents of Shield under the bus, haven't had a chance to see a second of Agent Carter, never finished Daredevil and hope to watch Jessica Jones one of these days but am in no hurry.

It's understandable. Thankfully, Marvel has catered both to the superfans by putting out loads of quality product and to the casual fans by making each discrete product stand pretty well on its own. And SHIELD is the only MCU thing thus far that requires any serious time commitment.

Well but then again: http://nerdreactor.com/2016/03/04/exclusive-agent-carter-to-be-renewed-for-season-3/

quietly yay but will wait for official announce just in case

But overall AC is still the best of the Marvel series, and better than most of the movies too.

Tuomas otm here. Imo Agent Carter is the best thing to come out if the MCU.

There was a brief moment in the rumor mill that Hayley Atwell wanted to play the Doctor, which I am totally in support of

The Dubsmash thing of Atwell in the car with Stan Lee was v v cute.

Sad the series is over, really hope it gets renewed! I've liked some of the movies but this season was definite MCU highlight by miles.

From the trailers it looks a bit as if the Civil War all takes place in one car park.

Yeah the big faceoff in what appears to be an airport looks lame. I guess they'll justify it by saying they're minimizing civilian casualties or whatever

I haven't seen Age of Ultron yet, but all the flying people in the trailer looked... wrong

reminds me of how when marvel wanted a crossover event in the 80s, they looked at what little kids wanted, which turned out to be the word "secret" and heroes fighting each other.

and the word "wars"

And Spidey teaching all-powerful cosmic beings how to poop (although they had to save that for the sequel).

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_small/4/49448/3557979-beyonder+1.jpg

I KNOW NOW WHY YOU POOP

I haven't seen Age of Ultron yet, but all the flying people in the trailer looked... wrong

Why? All the character who fly there (Iron Man, War Machine, Falcon, The Vision) are canonically capable of flying, both in the comics and in the previous movies. The only exception is the Scarlet Witch, but if you look at the trailer she's not really flying but doing a telekinesis-powered jump, as Age of Ultron established she has telekinesis. (She doesn't have that in the comics, but I'm pretty sure her sorcery powers enable her to fly anyway.)

Basically, the MCU version of Scarlet Witch is the Jean Grey they couldn't have, as her powers are telekinesis and telepathy (with a dose of some weird precog shit).

I liked the first Secret Wars ... Lotta stuff happens. Sequel was awful.

(xposts) Flying just looks weird in movies unless it's Christopher Reeve on a greenscreen

Saw Deadpool yesterday which served its purpose, which was literally wasting time. I guess it was fine. But this morning, probably unrelated, I had the coolest thought: wouldn't it have been a neat stunt if they introduced Spider-Man in the new Captain America without revealing who the nobody actor was? Like, if they had cast him in secret, and only after the mask comes off at some point in this or a later film would we learn that this guy has been hanging around in the background of several other Marvel movies? It would have been an awesome way to play into the whole secret identity thing, and give us all a nice idea of what it would be like to be in a world with secret superheroes.

Anyway, that would have been my idea.

It's kind of weird that Deadpool doesn't have its own thread, 75th biggest film of all time, biggest R-rated film ever. I get the impression that everyone who was aware of it up to a few weeks before its release had been thinking "Really? They're really going ahead with this?"

I'm amazed the film got made on a bunch of levels - gleeful rudeness, very aware script, Ryan Reynolds in a supersuit again. Does anyone know of a good "Behind the scenes" article?

I'm pretty sure he's been talking about it for years, leaking footage, spreading rumors. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some comprehensive making of that was part of its ingenious/ubiquitous marketing campaign.

It's weird that this is the movie that counts as pushing boundaries, because yeah, it's foul-mouthed, but almost all of those other Marvel movies are massively, innately violence. This is just the first with brain matter and amputations.

Am dubious of the Deadpool movie as it seems like the apotheosis of the nastier aspects of current geek culture.

(That doesn't it preclude it from being a fun movie, I suppose. It looks better than that Batman clusterfuck, for example.)

I dunno, Dark Serious superheroes are sort of the apotheosis. Deadpool is clearly a goofy lark come to life, which is partly what made it enjoyable. It's sort of like a superhero movie if it was edited together from improvised put downs and pop culture references, which more or less works better than it sounds. Really, most of the movie is one long scene on a bridge, with a bunch of out of sequence flashbacks and a final fight sequence tying it together. There's not much there, so you just sort of go along with the babbling and fourth-wall breaking and irreverence. There are some funny jokes at the expense of real Marvel titles, too, like making fun of the X Mansion being underpopulated because Fox ran out of money, or not remembering if Prof X is Patrick Stewart of McAvoy because the time lines are so confusing. That sort of thing.

Oh yeah that's the thing I forgot to mention - it is incredibly enjoyable, no eye-rolling (except if you consider the idea of a smart-mouth superhero inherently eye-rolling in which case this is not your movie), interesting structure, lots of deep and shallow gags.

Not sure which of the nastier aspects you mean - it's got three ass-kicking women if it helps?

The main boundary it's pushing (particularly for an X-Men movie) - there is no part that's po-faced.