hilarious episode. jimmy looking regretfully at his new sunroof cracked me up along with the whole boston cream splat story. chuck shaping up to be a proper villian
― i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 00:57 (eight years ago) link
This was great, I really hope we see more of baseball card dude at some point.
Given the constant parade of hubristic chumps they have to deal with, it's easy to see how Mike and Saul agreed to work with Walt, he would have just looked like another out-of-his-depth idiot, which of course he was to some extent.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 09:41 (eight years ago) link
I cannot unsee baseball dude as a Bruce McCulloch character, his delivery is just *so close* to Gavin
show continues to deliver - Chuck as a background villain is great
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 16:27 (eight years ago) link
that brilliant shot of him playing the piano
― draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link
How long can they continue to use Jimmy's internal conflict between being good and bad as the axis of the show? I feel like they've already covered this in S1...
― calstars, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link
His conversion from pitiable figure to villain is pretty chilling. Hates his own brother so much it overrides a real and debilitating mental health issue, yikes.
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
he remains something of a conflicted character all the way through BB so yeah they're going to mine this
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link
he's done criminal, he's doing lawyer, and now he's learning how to be a criminal lawyer
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link
Why would you keep dumpsters in a long skinny cell like that? Most are emptied by robot truck arms. What, does the garbageman come in and drag the dumpsters out... through the too-small-for-a-dumpster door that calls the police whenever it's opened?
― pplains, Sunday, 28 February 2016 07:24 (eight years ago) link
I think it's pretty common for restaurants to hide their dumpsters in an outbuilding or utility area like that. Can't believe we're still talking about the dumpsters.
― Mongolian Cow Yoghurt Supergirl (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 28 February 2016 08:57 (eight years ago) link
The future bits are all dream sequences anyway
― anglos with derpy phasis (wins), Sunday, 28 February 2016 08:58 (eight years ago) link
figured the dumpsters were removed via steel rollup door just offscreenhttp://www.guardiandooranddock.com/JPGS/rolling-steel-doors.jpg
― slam dunk, Sunday, 28 February 2016 09:01 (eight years ago) link
Just catching up w thread after first two episodes. Old Lunch riffing aside, I worry about things going fwd if mall dumpster placement is hanging you guys up.
I'm not worried abt Gene turning into some kind of straight heavy. He looked like he was veering off in that direction when it was first disclosed that he prevented Howard from hiring him, but then with the Cicero flashbacks they colored in his reasoning a little more—obv. we knew abt. Jimmy as a once (and future) huckster but seeing him work those $50 scams and freshly sprung from jail in a terrible shirt explained his brother's selfishness a little bit.
One big reason this show works for me is that the ethical compromise, moral dilemma etc. aren't limited to Saul or Mike, but extended to the secondary characters, and for me at least it's even more satisfying to see the apparently two-dimensional creep fleshed out w/ his own set of issues and redeemed a little bit. Like Howard for example, I hadn't expected he wld have any added value but his scenes are great!
― Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 28 February 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link
fantastic episode!
but to all you dumpster conundrumers - how come Kayleigh doesn't seemed to have aged between BTC and BB?
― draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 00:10 (eight years ago) link
huh oh well maybe she does. I remember her being about the same age in BB as she is in BTC but maybe not. what is the time span between shows supposed to be, roughly?
― draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link
Better Tall Caul - the the conversation prequel wherein harry's character is established alongside his rivalry with his inferior and much shorter brother
― conrad, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 11:32 (eight years ago) link
could still have a character called slippin jimmy
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:14 (eight years ago) link
Another great episode. Part of what I love about this show is its ability to wring tension out of such random things - Jimmy puts up a billboard! The boss calls Jimmy in for an early morning meeting! Jimmy hosts bingo! It feels quite... original?
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:22 (eight years ago) link
what's going on with mike's... whoever she is again (daughter-in-law)?
i didn't quite work out why he waited outside then she found the bullet damage on the house. were we meant to think that mike had done it, or that whoever did do it saw him there and came back later?
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:24 (eight years ago) link
He was there all night = he knows there were no shots but he doesn't wanna tell her. She's having nightmares as a result of the trauma of her husband's death
― anglos with derpy phasis (wins), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link
That's how I read it anyway. I guess the mark was supposed to be clearly not a bullet hole but it wasn't obvious to me
― anglos with derpy phasis (wins), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:37 (eight years ago) link
I assumed she's trying to run a con on Mike to get him to pay for her lifestyle/housing upgrades. She knows Mike's granddaughter is his kryptonite, plays on safety fears.
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:40 (eight years ago) link
Yea thats what i thought too, WilliamC
― i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 14:09 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I thought that, too. Iirc, they are estranged c. Breaking Bad, right? Like, he keeps his distance?
This show is so perfectly written, acted and directed, it makes everything else look bad. Even the way it takes place before Breaking Bad is perfect. We're not exactly sure how long before, and the pace is so slow and deliberate we have no idea how long it'll be before or even if it catches up. We know things end poorly for pretty much everyone involved, so that's always hanging over the story, but it builds and develops its own tension, too, over tiny details and character beats. Just perfect.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 14:28 (eight years ago) link
these guys sure know how to do the pre-credit intros. they're all perfect, just as they were in breaking bad.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 14:38 (eight years ago) link
The scales of justice as an ashtray was such a fantastic image.
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 15:19 (eight years ago) link
Given her husband was murdered she's more likely to be genuinely paranoid and terrified. The Mike scenes in Breaking Bad suggested at a continuing relationship with her, but the whole story appeared to be a plot device to move Mike further into the drug world.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link
This hadn't occurred to me but if it is it might be the fallout from Mike's believed culpability in his son's death? I'm not sure if they were necessarily estranged though, it might just be that BB didn't see the need to delve too closely into his family life beyond including Kaylee as a humanising factor.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link
This series is also always otm tonally, like the confidence with which they transport broad sitcommy gags & characters into this patient drama
― anglos with derpy phasis (wins), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link
As I recall, Mike and Stacey were at least semi-estranged in BB, but not so much that she wasn't willing to accept financial help and let him do some Kaylee babysitting. I assume this season of BCS is setting up their BB-era relationship.
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link
a strained relationship seems p natural given that she knows Mike is m/l responsible for her husbands' death and is also a murderer in his own right (something in which he has also made her complicit, after the fact)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
Now that was much better.
― RA the Rugged Advisor (Mr Andy M), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 20:38 (eight years ago) link
Another vote for the daughter-in-law going round the bend, mentally.
― kate78, Thursday, 3 March 2016 01:57 (eight years ago) link
If she was trying to con Mike into a housing upgrade, sure as shit Mike would detect that and call her out.
The show is taking place 6 years prior to BB, around 2002.
― kate78, Thursday, 3 March 2016 02:00 (eight years ago) link
Well, he did hear gun shots when he was staking out in the car. That's when he took out his gun. Actually, maybe he shot/broke the wall to convince her and his granddaughter to move somewhere better!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 March 2016 02:53 (eight years ago) link
He didn't hear gun shots. He heard newspaper delivery.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 3 March 2016 04:31 (eight years ago) link
Put away your phones and watch the show, guys. She's totally trying to scam Mike for more money. The second he suggests moving her out to a new neighborhood, she walks away, satisfied. The "gunshots" were totally just newspapers. Unclear if she actually heard anything, or was just making it up. I doubt you'd actually hear newspapers hitting the ground from inside your house at all, much less think that they sounded like gunshots.
― schwantz, Monday, 7 March 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link
look they TOLD me to start my two screen experience now, i started my two screen experience nowno half measures
― ulysses, Monday, 7 March 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link
Two screens seems like a half measure. I'm sure they could get it up to four if they really tried.
― Telephone Meatballs (Old Lunch), Monday, 7 March 2016 17:47 (eight years ago) link
The second he suggests moving her out to a new neighborhood, she walks away, satisfied.
I'd be satisfied, too, if I was afraid for my life in the place where I lived, because I thought I heard gunshots. What was she supposed to do, argue she should stay?
Regardless, I like how this show is keeping so much vague. Still, who confuses gunshots with newspapers? You mean Super Pro Mike confused gunshots for newspapers? Enough that he actually took out his own gun and made sure there was a round in the chamber? Pretty touchy for a ninja, Mike.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 March 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link
He heard popping sounds. He readied his firearm. He determined what the popping sounds were. He put his firearm away.
― WilliamC, Monday, 7 March 2016 17:50 (eight years ago) link
Dude should be able to tell a gunshot from a newspaper. And by "dude" I mean anyone.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 March 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link
Unless those paperboys have major league arms.
Putting aside whether the scene was unrealistic/out of character/badly conceived and written or not, that's what happened.
― WilliamC, Monday, 7 March 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link
But do we know how heavy these newspapers were and exactly what sort of bag they were in? I ask because, depending on the composition of the paving material used on the driveways in that neighborhood, a particular combination of factors could certainly contribute to a sound something like a gunshot. It would've been helpful for the viewer if Mike could've spoken to himself about what sort of gun he imagined he was hearing and what caliber of ammunition. He's probably aware of a gun/ammunition combination that sounds like the newspaper/bag/pavement sound he was hearing, but without knowing his specific thoughts on the matter there's no way of researching to see if this was in fact sound reasoning on his part or a massive and inexcusable continuity error on the part of the show.
― Telephone Meatballs (Old Lunch), Monday, 7 March 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link
halfway through the first sentence I knew that was going to be a classic OL post
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
Back in Philly his partner was killed by a paperboy.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 March 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
Should've given him the two dollars
― bearded flack trickster god (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 7 March 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
Man, I love Mike.
Also loved that he didn't answer Nacho's question.
― bearded flack trickster god (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 11:42 (eight years ago) link