I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

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by the way is anyone keeping track of how tall Trump's Wall is by now?

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link

I think it's genius. Clearly the one-shot way to make America great again, keep out Mexico and thwart China is to build a Great Wall of America. The only thing that could make it more genius is if he promised to make it mixed-use retail. He could call it the Great Mall of America, and it would hit so many bases he'd be president for life. Keep out the Mexicans, keep up with the Chinese, make America great and bolster the economy with miles of ample shopping outlets. Plus, think of the employment opportunities! And the tourism!

Also, he'd have to change the Constitution so that he could be president for life.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Plus, we would have the best murals in the world. The best!!!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

We are going to make Mexico paint the murals. If there's one thing you can say about Mexicans, it's that they make some top, top murals.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link

Trump has "the worst spray tan in America" and "should sue whoever did that to his face."
-- Rubio

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous)
Posted: February 27, 2016 at 11:13:32 AM
by the way is anyone keeping track of how tall Trump's Wall is by now?

way taller than the ceiling at the debate

lagโˆžn, Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link

somehow none of the rival GOP campaigns looked into any of this? malpractice

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-said-a-lot-of-gross-things-about-women-on-howar

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

because they've said teh same things themselves

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link

I guess a woman voting for Trump is kinda like saying "yeah, fuck you, me!!!!"

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

somehow none of the rival GOP campaigns looked into any of this? malpractice

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-said-a-lot-of-gross-things-about-women-on-howar

โ€• arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:53 PM (8 minutes ago)

why would this matter

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link

are you kidding? their candidates don't go on radio shows and say these kinds of things. they most certainly vote against women's rights as we all know but they don't go on the radio and rate women's bodies on a 1-10 scale, no. this is not a normal kind of thing for someone running for national office

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

you guys really cannot comprehend that women voters might not think saying these things is nbd for someone running for president

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link

i've got some bad news for you about the GOP base

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link

i mean obviously it would probably (and rightfully) destroy him, along with about a hundred other things, in the general election, particularly against hillary

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

He already called the potential Democratic Presidential candidate "disgusting" because she was a lady who had the audacity to use the restroom during the Democratic debate, and implied she was probably taking a dump to his cheering, laughing crowd which was full of women.

hell look at the sexist stuff he's said to Megan Kelly, it's not on the HOward Stern level of disgust, but it appalled many female GOP voters, but seemingly not the women who were already voting for him.

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

what fraction of early GOP primary voters are women? what fraction are people who will actively vote against anyone who is or (is perceived to be) courting the women's votes?

of course in the general this will be different and that kind of stuff will get more attention, especially if hillary gets the nom.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

there are also those women (like their male counterparts in the Trump camp) who hate Muslims, non-Christians, and foreigners so much that they'll say "hey, he was younger and angrier" before their afternoon Alex Jones FAP session.

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

anecdotal but #NeverTrump has been the top trend on twitter for awhile and it's driven by conservatives

it's crazy to me that the rival GOP campaigns have hardly attacked him at all so far, everyone just assuming he'd go away by now i suppose. stuff like the crass, extremely offensive audio clips from the stern show have to be barely scratching the surface of the available damaging material

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link

prob many of them just don't follow politics or pay much attention to the news and think he's a successful business guy who gets things done, basically. nobody's really made an effort to show them that trump's a con artist who is happy to rip off working people. that 'trump university' scam will be a thing, for one

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link

it...won't

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link

guy who owned beauty pageants EXPOSED for rating women on a 1-10 scale on the howard stern show, full story at 11

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

there has to be this frustration with figuring out to handle them, bc these candidates have to try to sell themselves and devoting time to attacking trump isn't going to make them look better. It makes them look worse, weaker, and gives no idea about who they are. Meanwhile trump is a candidate who is somehow selling himself via attacks on others, which wouldn't work for the other guys, and clearly defining the other candidates with those attacks.

I don't think it's gonna work with Clinton though.

nomar, Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

Handle him*

nomar, Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link

This is your first warning, Nthal,. Next time "Alex Jones FAP session" appears in one of your posts, it will become a flagged post.

http://i.imgur.com/r3Q7fVD.jpg

pplains, Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link


โ€œThere is no mechanism,โ€ Mr. Leavitt said. โ€œThere is no smoke-filled room. If there is, Iโ€™ve never seen it, nor do I know anyone who has. This is going to play out in the way that it will.โ€

I like that as part of the human condition, we continually insist to ourselves that Shit Can't Get That Bad and that eventually the Adults will step in. It's kinda the same thought process that keeps conspiracy theories perculating up.

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link

k3v is your position basically that trump is unstoppable?

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:54 (eight years ago) link

to get the nomination? it's looking that way, no?

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link

unless someone gets a really, really big anvil

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:00 (eight years ago) link

my position is that people who think he's going to be brought down by past instances of his being politically incorrect and rude being dug up very seriously misunderstand the very basis for his appeal in the first place

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link

i think he would be stoppable if the RNC or party establishment could exert some control over the rest of the candidates, convincing them to drop out so support could coalesce around a single non-trump candidate (like rubio). but did you read that NYT piece this morning? it is a complete shitshow, these people have no control and the candidates are too prideful and/or selfish to drop out for the good of the party. and tbh, i will happily watch as the republican party burns itself to the ground

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link

I felt like when he went after McCain with the POW stuff and nothing happened we were in new territory

robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link

felt that waywhen McCain named Palin his vp candidate

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link

We should be enjoying watching the best the GOP had to offer getting trampled by an Ebaumsworld sockpuppet

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link

to get the nomination? it's looking that way, no?

I think a brokered convention is an inevitability. I think the party knows that he is in no way sympathetic to the actual party or its needs, and they will sabotage a potential Trump candidacy at the convention if Rubio's latest tack doesn't hold.

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

(xposts) Yes--and I'll say, yet again, that got a bit of a preview of that in 2012. Exactly the same: the RNC/party establishment wanted a smooth nomination for Romney, it was anything but, and he got stuck fighting off a bunch of novelty-candidates who were too prideful and/or selfish to drop out. That time, the center held. (In the Yeats, not the political sense.)* This time, new territory.

*(I don't read Yeats in my spare time; I know that phrase from Nixon.)

clemenza, Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

i keep trying to read about the nominating process and how a brokered convention would go down, but as far as i understand it, the elected delegates (from the primaries and caucuses) are required to vote for trump on the first ballot, right? so if he wins a majority of the delegates, how can someone else be nominated?

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link

Given the amount of "saying the quiet parts out loud" that has happened over the course of the Obama administration, I kind of agree that a contested convention is possible, if the GOP really decides it would rather keep its entrenched donor base than let Trump take the nomination. They very well might be tone deaf and careless enough to just show the whole world what they actually think of "democracy."

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link

So "brokered convention" is an obsolete term because delegates are not dealt by brokers anymore. As you point out. A contested convention might be possible but really, after Tuesday, the only way that happens is if the RNC decides to fuck with the rules (and they very well might).

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

felt that waywhen McCain named Palin his vp candidate

But he got forced to take Palin by the GOP, right, since he wanted that Joementum as his running mate?

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

read "by the GOP" as "by GOD" the first time

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

delegates are not dealt by brokers anymore.

right. delegates can cut their own deals now.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 27 February 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link

only way that happens is if the RNC decides to fuck with the rules (and they very well might).

I think it's really unfair, if not downright unconstitutional, to have a controversial, divisive convention in an election year. The most fair solution would be to wait until the election is over, and then have a convention.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 February 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link

It would be great if Trump and Rubio both claimed to be the nominee afterwards

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2016 21:53 (eight years ago) link

Lol

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Saturday, 27 February 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link

I know predictions are supposed to be anathema these days because Everything Is Different Now. But.

There will not be convention shenanigans. No, Trump will not have an absolute majority of votes, but he will have an inarguable plurality and by far the most delegates. Two almosts and two nevers can't unite to stop one big Fuck Yeah.

Unpledged delegates (and delegates pledged to minor candidates) can technically roam wither they will, but they won't. This isn't the age of muttonchop whiskers any more; smoke-filled back rooms are no longer tenable. If Trump has the lead in delegates, they will acquiesce and nominate him because the alternative is Epic Shitstorm.

Trump wouldn't need to run third party, all he would need to do is walk away, taking his millions of rabid idiots with him.

living colour me badd english beat happening (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 February 2016 22:02 (eight years ago) link

I have no idea how the GOP will handle a Trump-anointing convention, but p sure it won't be by nominating Rubio instead, going against the clear voice of the voters..

living colour me badd english beat happening (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 February 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link

Perhaps McConnell will bring a live bear to the convention

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2016 22:10 (eight years ago) link

I don't know what McConnell will do, but I think most GOP establishment pros will discover they have a previous engagement, and decline to attend.

living colour me badd english beat happening (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 February 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link

Splinter party...the Nupublicanz

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2016 22:20 (eight years ago) link


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