I get the feeling Gilly is based on something. Is Gilly Pippi Longstocking?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
i think watkins has some potential tbh - just going off of this weekend i thought her portrayal of hoda was pretty good (as always) and her blogger thing on weekend update was pretty funny except for it being ruined by seth meyers going "AREN'T YOU JUST A SNARKY BLOGGER?" lol hello 2005
― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
doesn't michaela do barbara walters when they parody the view? i like her
― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
The problem with Wiig is that even when she's hitting the right notes, her characters just seem so mannered.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i like sudeikis generally. samberg is sort of useless but occasionally he'll give you a great digital short ("ras trent"). hammond hardly contributes, and lol kenan thompson peaked creatively with kenan & kel, no joke
― europeen handball (k3vin k.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
that was an multi-xpost
― europeen handball (k3vin k.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
except for it being ruined by seth meyers going "AREN'T YOU JUST A SNARKY BLOGGER?" lol hello 2005
how did seth myers ruin it by pointing out the premise?
― mizzell, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I will say I've been impressed by Bill Hader recently -- he has good range.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
i took gilly to be some kind of nancy grotesquerie
http://www.gilchriststudios.com/images/d2s/09/Nancy.gif
― zurück zum Traphaus (donna rouge), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I like Watkins as a versatile utilitarian player rather than a star player, though tbf I haven't seen her do an out-of-character character yet.
Will Forte will always have a place in my heart for being the voice of Abe Lincoln on Clone High.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
bill hader doing the dateline guy is the only thing on snl i've seen in 5 years or so, and it was just a clip online, but i thought it was hilarious
― Mr. Que, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
I like that, too, even though I have no idea who he's parodying.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
― mizzell, Monday, April 13, 2009 1:04 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
cuz the actual jokes were pretty funny in a childish way
― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
watkins-as-blogger is fuckin awesome, if only for the "bitch please" payoff. kills me every time
― europeen handball (k3vin k.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
gilly = raggedy ann gone mental
― i am david suzuki (get bent), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
gilly =
http://www.nexternal.com/dreamland/images/blecky.jpg
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Hader's Keith Morrison impersonation is definitely caricature, but after a bit you can start imagining the real guy as totally being that creepy.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
http://thumbnails.hulu.com/13/908/62056_145x80_generated__uLeb-882bUaS9IofVSGg-w.jpg
your nancy theory looks promising...
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
the blogger character is really funny, but hitting on the angle that it's about bloggers too hard does hurt it a little imo
Samberg isn't really a factor in sketches, i am very pro- the guy lately cause the Lonely Island album but i like those dudes far more for the writing than for his performances
― brewer and what (some dude), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
he blogger character is really funny, but hitting on the angle that it's about bloggers too hard does hurt it a little imo
I read this as "does hurt a little"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Wiig is funny but I don't think she's as versatile as Lorne wishes. I don't think she's charming enough to carry the show like Ferrell or even Oteri.
― The Contemptible (Dandy Don Weiner), Monday, April 13, 2009 1:59 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I think Ferrell's run is benefitting from the rose colored glasses provided by a good movie career and cherry-picked best-of specials as much as any cast member from the 70s or 80s -- guy was an insufferable sketch hog in his day, at the height of their sketch lengths going on way too long, it seemed like every week's broadcast included at least 15 minutes of him yelling in a thong or something. there were a couple years where i straight up hated him.
xpost haha whiney
― brewer and what (some dude), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Is Darrell Hammond in like one sketch an episode?
One sketch too many.
― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^ REAL TALK xp
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah al i mean i dont hate the writing on this show at all. each week they consistently throw 3-5 A+ ideas out there that either they underwrite or the cast underperforms.
― europeen handball (k3vin k.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know if it's part of the del close 'chicago school' of comedy but it seems like an unwritten rule that in any bit with an eccentric character there must always be a proxy for the audience who is normal and 'clever' enough to say 'what you are doing here is both weird and stupid'so seth meyers might be contractually obligated to point out the blogger thing, just like kenan has to point out that his being a suspect in Gilly's crimes is ludicrous.
this is really condescending to the audience -- smells like Lorne's doing.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i dont hate the writing on this show at all. each week they consistently throw 3-5 A+ ideas out there that either they underwrite
this means that you should probably hate the writing
― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Wiig has definitely been hurt by the lack of creativity of the writing staff. Oh, people like a character she does? Now she has to do it all the time. Now people like Wiig in general? Now she is in every sketch. Etc. I liked her better when she had more room to breathe.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, when Seth Meyers is your head writer, there is a problem, and I *like* Seth. He's just not a lead guy. They miss Tina Fey a lot, I think.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link
xp jordan yeah i guess, but my problem is how they end sketches most of the time. if i can get a few minutes of good lollin and at least one "wish i thought of that first" moment, i'm usually ok
― europeen handball (k3vin k.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
philip OTM, that stuff bugs me a lot
― zurück zum Traphaus (donna rouge), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
what ideas were like that this past week?
― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link
the foot massage sketch, the underage bar sktech, and another one i forget
― europeen handball (k3vin k.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
ringing endorsement
― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
i thought the today show parody was funny and the blogger things were funny, that's about it
― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link
wring my nuts xpost
― europeen handball (k3vin k.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah today show is a pretty consistent bit
― brewer and what (some dude), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link
yup
― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link
One problem with the Today Show bit is that the actual Hoda/Kathie Lee hour on the Today Show is fucking insane and way funnier than a sketch about it could ever be.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I miss seeing Chris Parnell on the regular. :(
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, people like a character she does? Now she has to do it all the time.
when has this ever not been the case on snl?
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Kristen Wiig is really running the risk of turning into Maya Rudolph.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't really know what that means
― brewer and what (some dude), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link
In so far as she's a funny character actor who Lorne will beat to death with overexposure and she'll end up sleepwalking through the show all the time.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i dunno...i never got to a point where i felt like MR was on the show too much...she never even really had that many ubiquitous running characters.
― brewer and what (some dude), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, there was a while there when she was in 70% of the show, doing characters that all revolved around the one of the three or four weird voices she could do.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
True, but it is happening again and I hate it.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link
don't really remember that time...iirc she basically stopped doing donatella versace after awhile, yeah?
― zurück zum Traphaus (donna rouge), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Unfortunately I can't cite specifics, because I started wiping her from my memory (sad, because I liked her in the beginning). It would probably be around 2004/05.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know if it's part of the del close 'chicago school' of comedy but it seems like an unwritten rule that in any bit with an eccentric character there must always be a proxy for the audience who is normal and 'clever' enough to say 'what you are doing here is both weird and stupid'
I don't think that's a Del Close thing, although I have seen stuff at the iO Theater where that sort of audience proxy is welcome and even funny in a scene that otherwise threatens to devolve into something ungrounded, unfocused, and self-indulgent. The difference, of course, is that with improv, you probably need that kind of reassurance ("look, we know this guy's being a weirdo on stage") way more than with a mainstream televised sketch show, where you implicitly trust that everything's done on purpose and for a reason.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
he became a sketch hog because he was the last guy to leave, right? the thing about Ferrell is that he had many, many moments of hilarity which is something the current cast seems unable to claim. He was as much a sketch hog as anyone there ever was--Dana Carvey comes to mind. And let's face it, the institution that is SNL has ridden its renegade 70s legend through rose colored glasses and sketches that were more groundbreaking than funny. I think this is especially driven by the number of players who successfully to the big screen and made the show larger than life.
And seriously, if they get 3 or 4 good to great sketches in any given episode, that's as good as it's ever been. I think DVRs make the show either worse or heighten its worseness.
― The Contemptible (Dandy Don Weiner), Monday, 13 April 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link