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Unfortunately I can't cite specifics, because I started wiping her from my memory (sad, because I liked her in the beginning). It would probably be around 2004/05.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know if it's part of the del close 'chicago school' of comedy but it seems like an unwritten rule that in any bit with an eccentric character there must always be a proxy for the audience who is normal and 'clever' enough to say 'what you are doing here is both weird and stupid'

I don't think that's a Del Close thing, although I have seen stuff at the iO Theater where that sort of audience proxy is welcome and even funny in a scene that otherwise threatens to devolve into something ungrounded, unfocused, and self-indulgent. The difference, of course, is that with improv, you probably need that kind of reassurance ("look, we know this guy's being a weirdo on stage") way more than with a mainstream televised sketch show, where you implicitly trust that everything's done on purpose and for a reason.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Monday, 13 April 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Ferrell's run is benefitting from the rose colored glasses provided by a good movie career and cherry-picked best-of specials as much as any cast member from the 70s or 80s -- guy was an insufferable sketch hog in his day, at the height of their sketch lengths going on way too long, it seemed like every week's broadcast included at least 15 minutes of him yelling in a thong or something. there were a couple years where i straight up hated him.

he became a sketch hog because he was the last guy to leave, right? the thing about Ferrell is that he had many, many moments of hilarity which is something the current cast seems unable to claim. He was as much a sketch hog as anyone there ever was--Dana Carvey comes to mind. And let's face it, the institution that is SNL has ridden its renegade 70s legend through rose colored glasses and sketches that were more groundbreaking than funny. I think this is especially driven by the number of players who successfully to the big screen and made the show larger than life.

And seriously, if they get 3 or 4 good to great sketches in any given episode, that's as good as it's ever been. I think DVRs make the show either worse or heighten its worseness.

The Contemptible (Dandy Don Weiner), Monday, 13 April 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

if they get 3 or 4 good to great sketches in any given episode

^^yep. imo this is basically the batting avg during even the best years

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Monday, 13 April 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

A lot of the Ferrell stuff is funnier in hindsight than it was live, I think. And that could be said for most of SNL's past, for any player. If there's one thing about SNL that works, it's that most sketches aren't as funny in real time as they are after the fact.

Tracy Morgan, for example, was on some other level most of the time, but it wasn't so obvious when it was happening.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to think early SNL might not have been so great, but then I saw a rerun of one of the early shows (Candace Bergen was host?) Nearly every sketch was a winner. Even had some weird muppet shit.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 13 April 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

They cut out all the shitty sketches for rebroadcast to whittle it down to an hour, but at least they HAD a good hour.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 13 April 2009 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

The version I used to see in australia was on a basic cable channel and they cut it down to 1 hour to start with but eventually cut it down to about 35 minutes. i used to think i was missing a whole lot but now we record the actual live show and watch it, after all the fast forwarding, we end up with about 35 minutes.

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Monday, 13 April 2009 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

It does take 35-40 minutes watching it on Tivo. I can't believe now that I ever watched this show live.

Event Horizon (Nicole), Monday, 13 April 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

TIMBERLAKE! CIARA! TIMBERLAKE!

Banvil! The Story of Banvil (Tape Store), Sunday, 10 May 2009 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link

timberlake is so annoying in this environment

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link

CAN YOU GUYS TELL THAT I AM NOT ONE DIMENSIONAL? LOOK AT ME I AM MORE THAN A SINGING POP STAR! I AM FUNNY AND I CAN ACT!

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i might kill myself after the digital short tonight

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

My friend's impression of Justin Timberlake is funnier than anything J.T's ever done in front of a camera. He says the impression is done by making your voice as high and as boyishly effeminate as you can possibly make a man's voice sound without it becoming a "gay caricature". Then, once you have that voice down, you have that voice try to act like Will Smith. Voila!

Cunga, Sunday, 10 May 2009 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link

mom translator was awesome

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link

they could just replace this episode with video of timberlake masturbating and it would the show would remain unchanged

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

might be a bit funnier actually

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 03:56 (fourteen years ago) link

this episode is so hot

Banvil! The Story of Banvil (Tape Store), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link

singing in every skit = zzzzzzzzzz

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link

^truth^

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

eh, that performance seemed to be missing a track, or ciara's mic sucked

some dude, don't make it dad (k3vin k.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link

SNL in shitty sound shocker tho

some dude, don't make it dad (k3vin k.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link

that song blows maybe

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link

also they re arranged it to include horns and likely have never performed it live so yeah

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link

u fuckin mad

some dude, don't make it dad (k3vin k.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link

lol i wasn't the one expecting a good live performance of "love sex magic"

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:22 (fourteen years ago) link

the best part is how they barely even looked at each other

Banvil! The Story of Banvil (Tape Store), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link

this has been a really bad episode

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly timberlake makes the episodes awful cuz they are all based around singing

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link

blind paterson was once again lol

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:41 (fourteen years ago) link

why is timberlake's pirate gay?

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:45 (fourteen years ago) link

he's Comfortable With His Sexuality

triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:46 (fourteen years ago) link

did ciara used to be attractive?

johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:54 (fourteen years ago) link

ciara was pretty disappointing tonight :(
"never ever" was better tho

some dude, don't make it dad (k3vin k.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

he's Comfortable With His Sexuality

― triple-hater protection (J0rdan S.), Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:46 AM (10 minutes ago)

otm

some dude, don't make it dad (k3vin k.), Sunday, 10 May 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

the paterson skits are always A++++++++++++++++++++++

MRSA Marchant (get bent), Sunday, 10 May 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

"having sex with a prostitute without using a condom is like driving a convertible through NEW JERSEY!!"

MRSA Marchant (get bent), Sunday, 10 May 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

The beauty contest line had me rolling.

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 10 May 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Surprised no one has mentioned how funny the "Mothers Day" digital shot was.

Alex in SF, Monday, 11 May 2009 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

That's probably because it wasn't very funny.

lindseykai, Monday, 11 May 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay then I am surprised no one mentioned how unfunny they thought it was.

Alex in SF, Monday, 11 May 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

The immigrant skit brought the roffles.

lou, Monday, 11 May 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

the mothers day shit was super dumb - also itd be much funnier of they dressed not like color me badd but like current day justin timberlake - that porkpie vesty members only look is just as ridiculous

ice cr?m, Monday, 11 May 2009 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link

why is timberlake's pirate gay?

you are asking why a comedy show might present a musical-theater professional as somewhat stereotypically gay!

nabisco, Monday, 11 May 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

can we retroactively add Justin to the SNL worst cast member poll?

^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Monday, 11 May 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I dunno, I always found him surprisingly entertaining in his guest spots. Maybe I just can't take him seriously enough to dislike him.

Nhex, Monday, 11 May 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i watched kill bill vol 2 instead

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Monday, 11 May 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

jordan u are such a hater! jt was fine this week the mother lover thing was about as funny as you can expect the sequel to a joke song can be, susan sarandon is hot, etc

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 11 May 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

also itd be much funnier of they dressed not like color me badd but like current day justin timberlake

oh, I do have to admit I found this odd -- like in the first one they both dressed and sounded pretty 1992, but then in this one they're still dressed all '92 but the sound is all modern, etc.

(this does not really affect my perception of whether it's funny, or anything)

nabisco, Monday, 11 May 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link


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