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that's exactly where i'm at too, man alive :D

i could maybe go more but honestly it's my grip failing at this point

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 March 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

Yes it's called ilx

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 21 March 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link

Trace same true for me, in fact it's mostly hand pain. I wonder if I should do it more than 1x per week to build up better callouses.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 21 March 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link

i have a spreadsheet. it doesn't go back further than a month (i just cycle back to the beginning after 4 wks). it's really just to compute my warmup amounts, keep track of last workout and next workout.

xp uh oh, have you watched some videos on grip placement? you shdn't be getting very serious callus

goole, Monday, 21 March 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link

245 x 5 on my deadlift today for the first time.

― human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, March 21, 2016 12:12 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's where i was at in the fall! and then i stopped lifting :(

also felt like i was getting limited by grip strength

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 21 March 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link

Hmm. Good tip, will look into that

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 21 March 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link

no pain in hands for me just literally bar slipping a bit on the last pull. just need to sw0le out a little more obv

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 March 2016 17:27 (eight years ago) link

Can also now do lol 3 proper pull-ups. My weight is up to 188 though which must mean something to that.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 21 March 2016 17:37 (eight years ago) link

hey is this calf machine gon fuck my knees up? i did 60lbs on it and my knees feel a lil weird/sore and that seems not good

http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/L11076244.jpg

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 00:44 (eight years ago) link

it's not gonna fuck your knees up if it's properly positioned but there are def better things you could do with your gym time

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 01:58 (eight years ago) link

I don't think I've ever seen a machine like that tbh. All I can think is that it might hurt your knees if you're pushing off your toes (like a squat or leg press will feel funny hurt) and you should be pushing with your heel?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 03:50 (eight years ago) link

You're supposed to push off your toes. Not sure why it would hurt knees other than from pressing directly into them -- are you positioning the pads right on your knees instead of slightly above on your thighs?

Agree though that it's not the most useful machine in the gym.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 03:55 (eight years ago) link

xxp don't listen to these dudes, calf machines are kewl. don't push with your heels, push from the balls of your feet. make sure your feet are going down past parallel. concentate on your calf muscles flexing. keep your back straight. breathe deep. do more reps like 12-20. you'll be sporting hot canteloupes below your cut-off jorts in no time. god be with you on your journey to bigger calves.

map, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 03:58 (eight years ago) link

Where can I find one of those rowing machines Kevin Spacey uses in House of Cards? None of the gyms I've gone to have had anything like that

Evan R, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 04:54 (eight years ago) link

http://www.waterrower.com/

I've never seen one in a gym.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 04:55 (eight years ago) link

i've used them in gyms... less consistent than the good old Concept 2 but the sloshing sound is really nice and if i could get a rower for home use and wasn't super-obsessed with comparing my performance to other people around the world that's probably what i would get, just for the sloshing

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 07:13 (eight years ago) link

xp I'm putting it on my thighs instead of right above the knee and yeah I am pushing w the ball of my foot. I'm thinking of just adjusting my bike pedal stance too and riding more w the ball of my foot instead of my arch or heel

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 11:00 (eight years ago) link

yeah you prob don't need to do that thing if you ride a bike, or even if you don't

#amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 11:02 (eight years ago) link

ime far more likely to experience injury to feet than knees w/ any calf machines

balls, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 15:12 (eight years ago) link

what harbl said

that machine is a good example of what I was talking about upthread ... it can help you get big calves, but the motion it trains you to perform has zero transference to anything you'd do with your body in the real world

Brad C., Tuesday, 22 March 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link

looks like some shit Ivan Drago trained on in rock IV

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 16:03 (eight years ago) link

i'm trying to come back from a hip flexor strain atm. Going to squat tonight for the first time in a few weeks.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 16:12 (eight years ago) link

that machine is a good example of what I was talking about upthread ... it can help you get big calves, but the motion it trains you to perform has zero transference to anything you'd do with your body in the real world

― Brad C., Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what about pranking the meeting by making the conference table "levitate"?

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link

I can't get my lower back to not round at the bottom of a squat. Even low weight.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Saturday, 2 April 2016 00:40 (eight years ago) link

I cut 65 pounds off my squat to focus on my form, because I noticed rounding my back and rocking forward. A few weeks of lower weight, and I'm working my way back up to where I was.

I've managed to net lose around 40 pounds in the last 10 months, and likely more like 60 pounds of fat, because I've put on a bunch muscle - especially in my legs. The last month or so has been been really tough to keep up any consistent gains, as work and life have gotten in the way, but I'm pretty much where I was two months ago.

Really want to get make some gains on squats and deadlifts. Any thoughts?

Hydroelectric New Deal Demiurge (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 2 April 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link

xp - flexibility issue, maybe? I think that's related to the hip flexors.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 2 April 2016 22:23 (eight years ago) link

could be tight hamstrings, trying to go too far below parallel, or not holding your breath in to stabilize your ~core~

#amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Saturday, 2 April 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

Xxp start mixing up weights and reps and/or start working on squat/DL variations.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Saturday, 2 April 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link

good advice from previous posters

the only other thing i can think of is maybe your legs are too close to each other? feet should point to same the direction your knees are pointing to

reduce weights until you can comfortably do a set and be conscious of your form/posture/breathing as you add weights bit by bit

F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 4 April 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link

I can't even do a bar squat without my lower back rounding a little, so I don't think it's only the weight. I don't feel my back caving from the weight, it just naturally goes into that rounding when I get low enough. I don't think it's only the weight, I think I have some real flexibility problems or else it's just the way I'm built -- short legs compared to torso, short calf muscles (tend to toe walk), etc.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 4 April 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link

don't bar squat then

just squat using your body weight til you figure out the issue

work on lower ab exercises using your body weight maybe? would you say you have strong legs and abs? (the main muscle groups squats hit) if not, you can work on strengthening those muscle groups first -- olympic barbell weights ~44lbs, regular barbell i think is around half of that?

if hip mobility is an issue, try yoga moves that reduce tension and that allow for better hip reflexor mobility (eg google yoga poses hip reflexor)

F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 4 April 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

I don't think leg strength is an issue -- I do weighted lunges with two 50lb kettlebells, I do front squats with a 100lb dumbbell, etc. I also don't think ab strength is, e.g. I have no problem deadlifting with good form, and a lot of that is leg and ab strength. Hip mobility definitely may be an issue, and possibly hamstring flexibility and even shoulder mobility -- I have persistent tightness behind my shoulder blade and I feel like that interferes with me getting my spine right. Again it's not like I feel my back curving from stress, it's more like it naturally curves when I'm in that position and I can't get it to do otherwise.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 4 April 2016 18:17 (eight years ago) link

oh i see

yoga loosens you up, so maybe that might help?

other than that i'm out of ideas

F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 4 April 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah thinking maybe yoga is the answer. Just have to find a way to work that in.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 4 April 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

If I want to try an A/B split, is it possible to get in all of the following exercises, and if so, how would you split them:

Bench Press
Deadlift
Overhead Press
Squat
Pull-up

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 01:35 (eight years ago) link

I am sort of thinking Deadlift/Overhead Press/Pull-up on one day and Bench/Squat the other day? Deadlift and Pull-up in the same day has the slight disadvantage of my hands/grip being tired by the time I do the pull-ups.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 01:37 (eight years ago) link

That's how I usually see it divided.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 01:56 (eight years ago) link

that's how i do it more or less.

don't totally know what's going on with your lower back but it sounds like you aren't extending your spine as much as you could so my two-cent suggestion is to try chair poses, which are basically free squats but you extend your arms up, in line with your spine. keep your knees directly over your feet and really send your hips backward, keep extending your spine with every in-breath, activate your core / low abs with the out breath. go as low as you can without sending your knees forward. hold for like 10-15 breaths and imagine you're a human high-voltage warning icon, basically. also, bridge and boat pose can help with strength in your lower core so you can extend properly and keep that shit straight.

map, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 02:24 (eight years ago) link

On some meds that have suppressed my appetite a bit, and it's crazy and dispiriting how fast I am shrinking. Could be mostly in my head, but it feels like all my gains are melting away by the day

Evan R, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 14:48 (eight years ago) link

I was really getting into squats and feeling the benefits. Then out of the blue and not immediately after exercise, my knees started aching and I found it a struggle just to walk down stairs. It's gotten a bit easier, and yesterday I managed to do a few unweighted squats, but the pain is still there. Bit of a mystery really and no idea what might have caused it as I'm not sure it was the squats themselves.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 14:50 (eight years ago) link

Doctor.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 14:53 (eight years ago) link

almost getting my squat back to where is was like 6 months ago. As long as it takes to gain strength it sure does go away fast. Plus i feel like i'm pretty much at the point where it will take a drastic change in diet and overall program to continue with the gainz. tbh I don't think i have that level of dedication.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 14:56 (eight years ago) link

benefit of not squatting much for a while though is that my overhead press got a lot stronger and that has always been weak.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link

don't totally know what's going on with your lower back but it sounds like you aren't extending your spine as much as you could so my two-cent suggestion is to try chair poses, which are basically free squats but you extend your arms up, in line with your spine. keep your knees directly over your feet and really send your hips backward, keep extending your spine with every in-breath, activate your core / low abs with the out breath. go as low as you can without sending your knees forward. hold for like 10-15 breaths and imagine you're a human high-voltage warning icon, basically. also, bridge and boat pose can help with strength in your lower core so you can extend properly and keep that shit straight.

― map, Monday, April 4, 2016 9:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is good. Thx. Already tried it last night and I am already feeling how I can extend my spine better.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 15:03 (eight years ago) link

kewl

map, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

a good complement to the chair pose might be an ass-to-grass squat, sitting on your heels with your feet flat on the floor... you can squat from a standing position or get up from a seated position; try it both ways, notice what's going on with your back and hips, and maybe work on holding that position for a while

Brad C., Tuesday, 5 April 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I have actually been doing assisted ass-to-grass for mobility and it has helped a good amount. It's only recently that I started paying enough attention to notice both the lower-back rounding and some inward pronation -- was able to correct that but working on the back.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link

x-post: knees and shoulders are dumb -- sometimes the fatigue pain in those areas feels real close to injury pain; the fact that it comes a fair bit after exercise is a clue that it's fatigue pain. If you can walk through it and it doesn't get worse and gets better within a day or so, you're ok.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 09:03 (eight years ago) link


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