The proof is in the Putin: thread for Panama Papers/Mossack Fonseca leaks.

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the scale of the leak would make it really difficult to process without purpose-built tools though

other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 00:34 (eight years ago) link

I figure a searchable database of some of the files will totally be a thing by the end of this week

https://panamapapers.icij.org/the_power_players/

for a start

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 00:36 (eight years ago) link

Huge tracts of prime UK real estate have been sold to offshore dummy companies - tracing some of those back to world leaders would be fun.

― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, April 4, 2016 5:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The week-long NYT series on who owns condos in the Time-Warner Building went way in-depth about how U.S. real estate was becoming one of the more effective ways to hide money, related directly to what's going on here. Most of the condos in that building, and the new needle thin NYC skyscrapers, are owned by nearly untraceable shell companies.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 02:08 (eight years ago) link

Planet Money had a pretty good thing on offshore companies a few weeks ago, and toward the end of it they concluded that it was actually easier to set up, and easier to hide your identity in, a Nevada LLC than in an offshore company. Although there are plenty of other "advantages" to an offshore company relating to taxes.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 02:15 (eight years ago) link

The ICIJ has confirmed that they are not planning to release the full dataset, which is likely to raise eyebrows in some sectors. It's arguably a good move as a fairly high proportion of the businesses could be entirely 'legal' and it would compromise the privacy of a lot of individuals but it's going to fuel some of the scepticism about the motivations and chain of evidence behind the leak.

ICIJ, iirc, gets a lot of its funding from Soros and USAID and there have already been moves in Russia and elsewhere to discredit them based on that. Partly on what they have released, partly on what they haven't. There hasn't really been any major news involving US institutions afaict - that might be because the details were not given to US newspapers but there's a competing theory that they are being selective in what they highlight. It would probably be fairly difficult to get any of the outlets it was shared with to go along with it, though.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 02:30 (eight years ago) link

USA today is the only paper brave enough to go against this conspiracy

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 02:50 (eight years ago) link

time to invade Panama again imho

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 03:48 (eight years ago) link

maybe it would reinvigorate oliver stone's career

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 04:02 (eight years ago) link

after they all get copies of the docs, then game very well be on

I figure a searchable database of some of the files will totally be a thing by the end of this week

― other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:33 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah they talk about that here - http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/04/04/why-no-big-splash-for-panama-papers/

just sayin, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 05:42 (eight years ago) link

(the fact that they had to wait for copies of the docs)

just sayin, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 05:55 (eight years ago) link

Huge tracts of prime UK real estate have been sold to offshore dummy companies - tracing some of those back to world leaders would be fun.

― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, April 4, 2016 5:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Private Eye have a searchable database (and Excel file for download) of properties owned by offshore companies here, if anyone's interested:

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/registry

nate woolls, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 10:00 (eight years ago) link

Bizarrely Cameron has decided to make his first public appearance since the Panama Papers leak at Price Waterhouse Coopers.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 13:46 (eight years ago) link

Icelandic PM has gone. Hopefully not the first political casualty.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link

"Last", surely?

Todd Palin in snowmobile crash (I know it's serious) (stevie), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link

doesnt stuff like this make the proposed 'bipartisan' tax amnesty look like a giveaway to these fucking crooks? I'd like to think maybe the timing of this story isn't a coincidence.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link

lol, last, indeed (xp)

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:03 (eight years ago) link

The basic story, that the rich are hiding massive amounts of their wealth and screwing everyone, is extremely simple to grasp. The details in those 11,000,000 documents are so vast that it will be a year at least before most of the stones that the lizards are currently hiding under are turned over and they scuttle out into the daylight.

The mouthpieces for the rich will assure us repeatedly that 'none of this was illegal', as if that were the essential point.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link

just to put the investigation/publication timeline into perspective, the ICIJ has been working on this for a year already.

home organ, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link

xp setting up the companies itself isn't illegal, it's what they did with them that may have been.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:31 (eight years ago) link

WikiLeaks was 1.7gb of data, this is 2600gb.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:33 (eight years ago) link

i was so busy riding the trump train that i missed this completely til a colleague sends us this horrible abc piece:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/panama-rejects-money-launder-label-documents-leak-38153237

i love how there still exists tonnes of US residents who believe the US propaganda that says "look! panama! bad country! latin america! bad! bad! bad!"

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

It took all of five minutes for the new FIFA President to become implicated in corruption.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

It took all of five minutes for the new FIFA President to become implicated in corruption.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrn_Hqc2-Q4

(and yes, that is mary byker .. )

mark e, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link

It's been interesting to see the way Cameron is portrayed visually: when he's under the cosh, his neck disappears in the accompanying photos; when he's seen to have some kind of 'win', the picture is of Atkins Diet Dave.

jedi slimane (suzy), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 09:29 (eight years ago) link

So Downing Street say he won't benefit from daddy's little legacy in the future, oh that clears all that up then.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 11:03 (eight years ago) link

Pretty sure he's going to come out of this scot free tbh. Other Tories are going to be in the firing line though. And MPs from other parties, I expect.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 11:12 (eight years ago) link

It is good system that, if everyone is a criminal then no-one is guilty!

calzino, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 11:25 (eight years ago) link

As discussed upthread:

One of the surprises about the Panama Papers – the largest leak from an offshore tax adviser in history – is how few Americans have so far been exposed. The reason? It may be because creating a shell company in the US is easier than obtaining a library card.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/06/panama-papers-us-tax-havens-delaware?CMP=share_btn_tw

Cameron should be fine, though it will be interesting seeing him trying to phrase his denials so carefully under a proper grilling.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 11:53 (eight years ago) link

Part of me wonders if there's an Osborne revelation still to come.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 12:21 (eight years ago) link

Steve Reed ‏@SteveReedMP 2h2 hours ago

Now BBC reporting Osborne fails to answer whether he benefits from an offshore fund - he terminated interview when pressed

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 12:31 (eight years ago) link

he terminated interview when pressed

Bit of spin there tbh.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 12:50 (eight years ago) link

incredible to look at this http://www.private-eye.co.uk/registry pan across london in particular but the whole of the country and get an idea of the land and buildings owned by companies registered in these places transparently for dodgy tax reasons

conrad, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 13:55 (eight years ago) link

Swiss police has carried out a raid on UEFA headquarters.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:36 (eight years ago) link

Isn't another possible explanation for there not being a lot of Americans just that there are a bunch of other firms that do this kind of work and maybe this one just didn't have a lot of American clients?

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 16:00 (eight years ago) link

Yes. And Suddeutsch Zeitung has implied the leak with all the Americans in it is still to come, I swear I read that somewhere.

other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 16:05 (eight years ago) link

http://www.vocativ.com/305557/the-most-bonkers-panama-papers-conspiracy-theories/

Wasn't here but the quote is referenced; also, lol

other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link

This is interesting:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/monicamark/the-panama-papers-may-help-unravel-the-corruption-deal-of-th?utm_term=.vuej1BB1o3#.irO3OllOgx

Strong echoes of the Russian 'cash for shares' scandals of the 90s where state assets were given away for nothing (accompanied by huge bribes) to be sold for billions further down the track.

The dramatic change in ownership was pushed through just a few days before former dictator Lansana Conté died at age 74 in December 2008. BSGR didn’t actually pay for the mine, but instead pledged to invest $165 million into exploring and upgrading it. Two years later, they sold 51% of their stake to another company — this time for $2.5 billion.

Put another way, BSGR netted a profit of some $2.2 billion — then worth twice the entire GDP of Guinea — in return for investing just $165 million. That prompted Mo Ibrahim, the Sudanese billionaire whose foundation promotes good governance in Africa, to ask whether “the Guineans who did that deal” were “idiots, or criminals, or both.”

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 April 2016 02:44 (eight years ago) link

interesting that not a single guardian article that refers to the panama papers has an open comments thread.

mark e, Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link

but also a blessed relief

two months pass...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/how-an-obscure-nonprofit-in-washington-protects-tax-havens-for-the-rich/2016/06/09/ab03e70a-2908-11e6-ae4a-3cdd5fe74204_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_panama-1020a-top%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

In the eight-page fundraising document discovered by The Post, the Center for Freedom and Prosperity in Alexandria, Va., said that it had already persuaded the Bush administration to thwart an international effort to require more transparency from tax havens. Now the center was promising to derail similar reforms in legislation before Congress.

Among those it planned to contact: lawmakers, key figures in the Bush White House, the Treasury Department, the State Department and the Office of Management and Budget.

...

In emails and documents sent to Mossack Fonseca between 2001 and 2012, the center said it had parlayed its access into action with the support of former House majority leader Dick Armey (R-Tex.) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), high-ranking Treasury Department officials in the Bush administration, and members of key congressional committees that regulate U.S. tax and spending policy.

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 June 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Shit man

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 October 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/18/guardian-bbc-legal-action-paradise-papers

Guardian getting sued by Appleby for publishing what they say were confidential, stolen documents.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 18 December 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

ICIJ publishes West Africa Leaks and the results are as expected. Resource extraction continues, only faster and worse:
https://www.icij.org/investigations/west-africa-leaks/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 05:27 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

Actress Isabelle Adjani, who was named in the Panama Papers, to be tried for tax evasion

French actress Isabelle Adjani is facing tax fraud and money laundering charges partly tied to Panama Papers revelations.

The star, who reportedly denies any wrongdoing, will be tried in Paris in October. She has been called to appear on Oct. 19. Judicial sources told French media that Adjani, 68, is accused of separate financial crimes.

In the first instance, she is alleged to have received a donation of two million euros from a Senegalese businessman, Mamadou Diagna Ndiaye, “under the guise of a loan.” This is said to have enabled Ndiaye, who is also an Olympic official, to evade transfer duties.

In the second, she is accused of passing 119,000 euros to an unknown beneficiary via an offshore company in 2014.

Adjani was revealed to be a shareholder of the offshore company, Deckert Investments Limited, by the 2016 Panama Papers investigation.

Based on that information, France’s National Financial Prosecutor’s Office reportedly opened its investigation into her at the end of 2016.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 11:29 (nine months ago) link


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