Most embarrassing overpraise of the just released 'Ears' album on Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith thread

Intensely positive reactions = dorky
Intensely negative reactions = cool

xps who would want to be on your team? Even the guy who literally hates everything that makes life joyful wouldn't have you. (Though maybe that means you're something that makes life joyful.)

I don't like this album. I just want to fill weingarten's endlessly empty ego-hole. Here's a squirt.

It's like being slowly fellated in a woodland glen by a beautiful unicorn.

How does that even work? Considering the horn...

Intensely positive reactions = dorky
Intensely negative reactions = cool

― Evan, Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:42 AM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read
http://previews.123rf.com/images/rgbspace/rgbspace0911/rgbspace091100095/5958071-Portrait-of-young-guy-holding-cigarette-with-cool-look-and-sunglasses-Stock-Photo.jpg

obviously all this is achieving is improving the record's profile on ilm and eventual eoy placement, but what is ilm if not the battleground of ideas *nobly genuflects to this album's ermine-cloaked sonicopolis, through which lysergic paramounts fire fletches of purest vernal agape*

I hope LJ is not complaining about someone else embarrassingly overpraising an album.

Getting territorial there.

wait is whiney the guy who works for a magazine whose ostensible purpose at this late stage is to give bono a tender rimjob every time u2 shart out a new record?

however are we going to deal with the embarrassing overpraise of calling an album the best in 4 months

i'm astonished whiney is even aware of this album, since when does he give a shit about ambient electronic producers?

however are we going to deal with the embarrassing overpraise of calling an album the best in 4 months

Technically three months, let's not go overboard here.

great thread

i'm astonished whiney is even aware of this album, since when does he give a shit about ambient electronic producers?

― cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Part of the bravery on tone policing is that you have to patrol neighborhoods you wouldn't necessarily willingly venture into otherwise.

i'm also astonished (in a good way) that so many people seem to be into it, i had literally never heard the name before the ilm poll and am yet to see the name outside of ilm

A+ thread

the choice is obvious, i feel - the last one

yeah, that's the only one i was sorry to have read

because obv one just plays the album over again, duh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3li_aZWt-r0

Ha, I had assumed that some of these were meant as parody on the original thread.

I'm not embarrassed at all. When I love something this much I guess cheese gushes out of my pores. Deal with it. Totally voted for my own overpraise, too.

Most embarrassing thing about being a "professional" "music" "critic", part 8,749:

Having lived inside the self-perpetuated hype cycle for so long that they have lost the ability to tell Hype from sheer joy.

In fact, Whiney, at your point in this game, I think you have lost the ability to even recognise, let alone experience actual joy - through music or anything else - that you feel the need to exterminate it on sight in others.

I'm not the slightest bit embarrassed for myself, but I feel painfully embarrassed for you. Please give up. I think ILX, and indeed the world, would be better for it.

I already elected not to click on any of the sneery blowhard's links in future on account him thinking there is still comedic currency in the word "retard", but fuck him for this worthless shitiness as well.

i'm also astonished (in a good way) that so many people seem to be into it, i had literally never heard the name before the ilm poll and am yet to see the name outside of ilm

― cher guevara (lex pretend)

actually the lead review in the electronica section of this months mojo reviews is this album.

Mojo has an 'electronica' section?

After they reviewed 'EARS' the editors looked at each other and wondered aloud how they were going to review another electronica album after this one.

that's how i feel after finishing any piece of writing

or you know just rising for a new day

Mojo has an 'electronica' section?

from time to time, yup.

or you know just rising for a new day

― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, April 6, 2016 8:42 AM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cause every day prior is just the GREATEST?

In fact, Whiney, at your point in this game, I think you have lost the ability to even recognise, let alone experience actual joy - through music or anything else - that you feel the need to exterminate it on sight in others.

whiney's reviews are more "the music is so badass because blah blah" and less about "the music makes me feeeel" imo.

Yeah I don't think whiney doesn't recognize joy, I think he's just a bit overly concerned with cool-policing. Like that guy in school who worried too much about whether someone he associated with was a poser or a dork, and made sure to vocally disassociate himself with any detection of mindless trend following or dorky behavior that embarrassed him given other cools might be watching and judging.

and yet ayo best coco yayo maco wacko no-fi schmoundcloud dooblebob vine rap thingy of 2014

http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

for the record: while this curmudgeonly WHOGIVESASHIT.jpeg is certainly a facet of whiney's online persona, I can tell you from numerous experiences seeing him out at concerts over the years that he very rarely experiences good live music with anything less than fervent ecstacy

we could all use that excuse.

I figured this thread wouldn't be much more than a snarkfest but then I read through and I thought: this is such a gift.

Whiney, LYLAS, but based solely on threads like this, it's hard for me to imagine that you aren't consumed with the self-conscious need to avoid walking down the street in a fashion that might be mistaken as the pedestrian equivalent of Overly-Earnest Bacon N' Moustaches Brony the Vampire Slayerism.

he doesn't have to worry about that. people know he know's he know's what's up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI

i liked the rainbow guy's earlier stuff better

I am deeply fucking tired of this bullshit.

If Whiney IS actually able to express some enjoyment of music he deems worthwhile, while STILL mocking others for taking joy from music, that makes it better, not worse.

I'm done with guys like this. Bullies like this are a cancer on music fandom. Mock, mock, mock. The pathetic and blatant attempts to SHAME people for:
-not liking the right music
-liking music in the ~wrong way~
-being the ~wrong sort of person~ to have a right to publicly enjoy music, fullstop

I've been dealing with this kind of crap my entire life. Guys who try to enforce their views on what music appreciation should be, what should be appreciated, and how. And it always boils down to the same fucking message: You are WRONG for liking female-shaped music. You are WRONG for expressing that enjoyment in female-shaped ways. You are wrong for being female-shaped in public. Plus an added extra bonus sneer and shaming for being autistic, and expressing appreciation for too effusive and non-cool a manner. Over half the posts in his little "poll" are my posts. That's not an accident. It's directed at who has the right to express fandom, and who has the right to do it in what manner. And I'm tired of this kind of bullshit, and the message behind it, and I will not just shut up and put up with it and you guys who ride for him going "oh but he doesn't mean it that way" - actually yes, he does. Yes, I am angry, and I have the right to feel angry at the way this cancer of a human being is acting.

I am not embarrassed, and I will not be shamed for liking the music I like, and expressing that love in the way that feels right for me. I will not be shamed for being girl-shaped, and I will not be shamed for being autisticly girl-shaped. It's Whiney who should be embarrassed, and who deserves to be shamed publicly for being a bully, for being a joy-policing wanker, and for being the guy who seemingly thinks that the paragon of cool or ~badass~ or whatever is to pick on the autistic chick for ~LIKING MUSIC IN WRONG WAY~.

You're a bully and a cancer, Whiney, and you're too ignorant to even know to be ashamed of it.

i understand opposition to hyperbole. it's got that kind of clickbaity aura to it. and you can say "people shouldn't hold themselves and others to high writerly standards on message board posts", but i disagree; i don't want every internet message board to be a charnel pit.

but even though i can resist maybe 95% of clickbait headlines (the one i can't resist will SHOCK you!), i am a sucker for well-written hyperbole, anything that expresses the notion that this music inspires a passionate response in human beings. that's what got me with king, who i wouldn't have ordinarily listened to because they're a little outside of my genre wheelhouse. the stuff people have said on ilx about king? a little over the top, honestly. but they're a good band, and their album is a good album. in fact right now i'm in an ongoing battle with a co-worker to get them to listen to king. he avoids them because they look like destiny's child on their cover art. to which my response is "destiny's child are awesome and you're a racist", but it's a hard sell.

we're all hard sells these days. there are bands, many of them, i refuse to listen to simply because i don't like their name. law of averages is that most of them are terrible, but if, say, "joanna gruesome" is actually a good band, i'll never know, and since all the good names are taken- hell, most of the bad names are taken- it's not exactly fair judgment.

technology has changed the role of music writing. if the goal was ever to give the reader an approximate understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of the work in question, it's not now. the primary goal is to just get people to listen to something so that they can make their own decision.

Branwell, don't know if this helps but I didn't glean anything girl-shaped or autistic about your username or posts, I just thought it was funny that everyone went DiCrescenzo over a synth album that's been out a week.

I just thought it was funny that everyone went DiCrescenzo over a synth album that's been out a week.

this is so fucking stupid

at the time this dumb thread was created there were like maybe 40 posts in the KAS thread

it wasn't a 800 post thread w/ nothing but hyperbolic praise from anyone on ILM and even if it was i think it is a bad look whiney to choose THIS particular album to do your corny-ass cool policing routine

branwell otm btw

when i first read whiney's thread title i irl lol'd, thus therefore in turn, WGW contributed to rather than detracted from my joy

marcos otm

People should really ask Whiney's permission before posting Spotify playlists enthusiastic praise for new music.

luckily my praise on the initial thread was mild enough to avoid becoming a poll option. but if the ultimate purpose of endlessly talking about music on the internet for 15 fucking years is to encourage habits of self-interrogation that help us understand that music and our reactions to it more completely, whiney's public-shaming caprices are just as useful as collective overpraise parties or discussions about diversity and representation or dismissive pile-ons. and they're usually entertaining.

he was poking fun at the reaction by people on that thread not the music or the artist. He said he likes it ffs.

idk what whiney himself gets out of this but idc either

Yeah, public-shaming, that's really useful.

Shame me next, I need it.

BTW and FWIW, I had never heard of this artist before but the enthusiastic praise being polled here has piqued my interest. So it's like even though the Vietnam War was a shitty, pointless, mean-spirited clusterfuck, at least something cool like Apocalypse Now happened in its aftermath.

Yeah, I'm definitely checking her stuff out now!

Branwell otm

Whiney this is a long-standing ~thing~ with you-- shaming people for liking female-shaped music-- that my subconscious started to tally when to when you starting hurling Twitter insults at My Brightest Diamond of all people, whose music I don't care for, but think it's a really fucked up think to save your grenades for, and then I started noticing there were zero women or queers on your end-of-year lists, and read your thoughts on HIV+ people having sex, etc. etc. etc.

I don't think you're a bad person so much as highly representative of cluelessness, same as when you post about how "Spike Lee has never made a bad film" the same day as excited posts about your favourite new gentrifying banh mi boîte

Like the only woman you stanned for, literally, in 2014, was "hey guys you'll never believe it but I love this St. Vincent record" like holy shit Whiney likes something a woman made, I am not making this up

Also "let me relate to you a list of all the queers and women I stan for on 77" no, please stan for them publicly

this album is good, this thread is funny, everybody wins imo
--adam

^ gets it

marcos is otm as str8 fire here, so is branwell, whiney can def be a cool dude IRL but it severely bums me out that he clings so relentlessly to this fun-sucking shithead ~online persona~ and insists over and over that it's fun and enjoyable when virtually everyone else details why it's really rotten, mean-spirited, sometimes hurtful, etc. there is such a bizarre refusal to self-analyze and it's v tired but also v predictable; swift dismissals of anyone's concerns (regardless of how severe) abound.

also singling out this album is just bizarre, like why on earth this album from this person right now? ppl have been operating like this and getting rly excited abt shit on ilm for literally a decade, this is totally par for the course

over the past year or so I've tried to check myself when I feel an impulse to shit on ppl's joy when I deem it naff or embarrassing and it's made me a much happier person.

fgti and bleatballs, what the fuck are you even babbling about?!

A) I... Don't have an opinion on HIV+ having sex? Why would I have any informed opinion on that?

B) My top 75 last year had Beatriz Ferrarya, Rhiannon Giddens, Sarah Neufeld, JLIN, Matana Roberts, Mary Halverson, Miley Cyrus, TanyaTagaq, Jasmine Sullivan, Fifth Harmony, Carly Rae Jepsn and Noveller

http://1000timesyes.tumblr.com/post/136882457429/cleaning-out-my-closet-the-top-75-records-of-2015

How that's woke and bae enough for you, and go fuck yourself sideways you moron

Learning and growing as people, together.

Also my number one Pazz and Jop record in the year I supposedly only liked St Vincent was MIRANDA LAMBERT

yeah, but you suck

For those of you who have wondered why people rarely start threads about new records these days... it's because people still start threads like this bullshit.

there's such a gulf between the handful of enthused posters on the KAS thread and the level of overhype that would merit a thread like this. whiney we see embarrassing shit on twitter every day from professional critics desperate to be part of this month's buzz which often doesn't even have the mitigating factor of being genuine, why single out the praise for THIS relatively unbuzzed-about album for mockery? i mean did you see the reaction to that fucking terrible new drake single on twitter yesterday? how people are convinced young thug is the second coming? the acres of shitty purple prose churned out about radiohead or animal collective over the years?

Yeah otm, the KAS thread was just people expressing enthusiasm for a record without any ulterior motive or guile.

To be fair to whiney -- and i wouldn't go too far with this, believe me -- he seems to embody a type of attitude that was popular on this board years ago and isn't so much now. He likes a lot of music and has fierce opinions so he'd be good to have around if he would cut out this kind of hardman bullshit.

xpost Or embarrassment, as has been helpfully pointed out.

16%, hard to argue with those numbers

the history of this board is full of unashamed enthusiasm

i also demand the entire 1975 thread be polled

To be fair to whiney -- and i wouldn't go too far with this, believe me -- he seems to embody a type of attitude that was popular on this board years ago and isn't so much now. He likes a lot of music and has fierce opinions so he'd be good to have around if he would cut out this kind of hardman bullshit.
--Treeship

Treeship otm, and I think I clearly misjudged by making a circa-2007-style ILX thread in 2016.

I stand by this thread being funny, but the keeping it negative dickhole zing crew isn't exactly rushing in here to defend me or it

If the new terms of ILX means that making fun of earnest, enthusiastic posts is implicitly sexist and ableist and bullying, then I'm 100% fine with forks deleting this thread and personally taking a break until I'm ready to fit in with the new tone of the site.

Because it doesn't bother you at all that the person you made fun of had a reaction? Only 'the new terms of ILX' matters?

the keeping it negative dickhole zing crew

terrible people responsible for a terrible era of ilx

and no, this thread is not funny

I think there's still a place for gentle ribbing here but I can't speak to your true intentions with threads like this overall.

It bothers me that she thought it was somehow motivated or predicated on me knowing she was a woman and/or autistic. It wasn't, and I certainly didn't mean to remind anyone of mansplaining show bros.

"the right to make threads joking about ppl who enjoy things differently than I enjoy them" is not exactly a hill i feel like dying on

the reason people are suspicious of your motives is that the KAS thread wasn't especially gushing or OTT even for this year alone (see: king, 1975, young thug)

the thug thread has never felt particularly gushing imo

mostly bc everyone seems to have different ideas of what constitutes "good young thug"

"the right to make threads joking about ppl who enjoy things differently than I enjoy them" is not exactly a hill i feel like dying on

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, April 7, 2016 4:30 PM (4 minutes ago)

Good.

not a mod anymore dude

fwiw, i don't get how this is whiney being an aggressive dick so much as it's whiney being whiney (insert obvious joke here)? ymmv and people's experiences speak otherwise but to my eyes this was not a mean jab
but maybe wgw is right and it's shifts in popular opinion you have noticed