Better Call Saul

well yeah but a guy who does all that first blood shit to calmly disarm two hitmen doesn't nec seem like the "get into random fights" kinda thug? Maybe. idk.

it's a classic breaking bad scheme I guess, plausible enough

those weren't hitmen

more like hired goons

...a distinction they will also be able to draw!

haha yes

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Mike and Nacho's scheme does get found out, Nacho gets whacked and Mike somehow weasels his way out of it

nooo mando has been so good ;_;

I want him to stay in for another series at least, not "fleshed out" at all, just popping up being all wary & shit

Cartel top brass also seem a bit pleased that Tuco's getting a bit of a cool-off in jail.

― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap) Seems plausible, and maybe Nacho's still paying the cartel their cut, just going around the increasingly unreliable Tuco, showing them he can handle stuff?
But prob he gets whacked--or that was the plan, 'til writers saw what he could do (as happened with Jesse)

the salamancas know mike is an ex-cop (and really at that point that's all he is, right?) - hector said something about him getting off easy on the gun charge because of that

I think the simplest route to take with this is that it's already been established that Tuco is completely unhinged when he's speeding it up. He murdered someone he liked in cold blood. It's not much of a leap to imagine that he'd beat the shit out of a random person for the smallest of infractions (e.g. bumping his car) or that the cartel people would think much more about the incident than "Tuco being Tuco".

^^^

I mean, without any additional context or clues, "Tuco being Tuco" makes much more sense than "hey, maybe this old ex-cop dude let himself get beaten up by Tuco because he's actually in cahoots with Nacho".

"hey this random old dude that kept his cool when Tuco almost murdered him for no reason ALSO kept his cool in a meeting we called him to to threaten him AND kept his cool when we sent goons to his house to threaten him? v suspicious and out of character imo"

They know he's an ex-cop, dude. He's not just some random Sandpiper Crossing dweller.

you're telling me but I'm already saying

OIC

lol I like this show too no need to get defensive

It is actually suspicious as shit but the real answer is that this is a world where actual cops are convinced by cobbler stories and people slip magic berry mickies into sachets or whatever

it's drama, not journalism.

Yeah I know that's why I was constantly acknowledging as much, just womdering if there was anything I was missing, there wasn't

Yeah sure, my post prob seemed more snarky than I meant it. I guess I just am remembering people dismissing BB for not being "realistic".

Heh I think it's safe to say those of Us who've made it this far are cool with suspension of disbelief!

Give or take a glaring dumpster access plot hole

I'd be lying if I didn't still occasionally ask myself "no, seriously, how did Walt get Brock to eat those berries?" but I've otherwise been very credulous wrt this world. If only because the plot logic and character motivations in many other shows would lead me to believe that everyone involved is suffering from an ongoing series of brain events.

The writers have acknowledged that the Brock poisoning is their biggest stretch ever. They came up with the result, then struggled & strained and developed a "how Walt did it" that they could juuust accept for themselves to justify it.

the Brock poisoning this was one of the only weak points in Breaking Bad's armour.

I think I read that explanation once & was like "eh seems legit"

How hard is it to poison a kid, kids eat any shit

I was fine with the dead guy adjusting his tie too

yeah i mean for a show that was about storytelling rather than "realism" they still never stooped as low as brother mouzone.

Ha I have high threshold for the cartoonish but that was corny as hell, yeah. Again I think they sold it tho

I like to imagine that Walt just stridently approached Brock in broad daylight at like the playground or something and was like, "here, kid, eat these" and Brock was like "okay".

yeah.

"hello brock, would you like to eat these berries?"

"yes."

some people have no imagination.

I think the only reason people are hung up on this is because we didn't see it. If they'd shown Walt slipping him the poison in whatever absolutely ridiculous scenario, they'd accept it the same way they did a 50 year old with lung cancer digging a huge money hole in the desert or whatever

Or like he's just sitting there on a park bench when he knows Brock will be walking past and he's miming eating the berries and rubbing his tummy and is like "MMMMM, oh man, these are the best berries I've ever eaten." And Brock is naturally curious and is like, "hey, mister, can I have some of those berries?" And Walt's all coy, like, "I dunno, these are some pretty good berries, you might be too young to fully savor their deliciousness." But Brock is like totally hooked in now and he's like "pleeeeeease can I have some of your delicious berries?" It's the kind of scene you could have a lot of fun with, maybe play some jaunty music in the background, you know.

Feel like he enlisted one of those meth gang bike kids

shit you must have spent a while writing that, i can visualise it in my mind xpost

The most likely scenario is that he used his scientific knowledge to develop a sort of berry catapult or gun so that he could launch berries into Brock's laughing mouth from afar while Saul was telling him jokes.

I'm sending my writing packet in to Gilligan this afternoon, btw.

that makes sense. i had imagined he posed as the school nurse for berry suppository day, but i hadn't really thought it through and in some ways your idea is more plausible.

though not sure how he would have managed to fire the suppositories such that they were taken.

Ooh, berry suppository day is a good angle. Walt's goatee might be an impediment to posing as the nurse but I imagine he could employ a method similar to that used when Richard Pryor posed as a maid in The Toy. Yeah, this is really coming together.

it would explain brock's reaction to seeing walt again. a mix of "i know this man from somewhere" and "this is an unpleasant man"

do we know there wasn't enough time for walt to have set up an organic jam food truck?

quality work here guys

I'm going to be so sad next week when this season is done.

i got pretty tense watching that. not a feeling i usually get w this show. good stuff

Final scene of penultimate episode of season two = watching Jane die

Mike and Good Samaritan, Jimmy and Chuck---maybe. Whether Chuck checks out or not (brain damage?), think Kim might break with Jimmy because of all this.

Anyway, pursuing a case against Jimmy (DNA samples?) wouldn't be wise, in terms of all the weird Chuck ways Jimmy has unavoidably observed while caring for his poor big brother (things which could be corroborated by Ernie and others) But Jimmy---goaded by Kim, if understandably so---panicked, and helped bring on this melt-down and accident.