lol I like this show too no need to get defensive
It is actually suspicious as shit but the real answer is that this is a world where actual cops are convinced by cobbler stories and people slip magic berry mickies into sachets or whatever
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 08:09 (eight years ago) link
it's drama, not journalism.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 09:08 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I know that's why I was constantly acknowledging as much, just womdering if there was anything I was missing, there wasn't
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 09:14 (eight years ago) link
Yeah sure, my post prob seemed more snarky than I meant it. I guess I just am remembering people dismissing BB for not being "realistic".
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 09:36 (eight years ago) link
Heh I think it's safe to say those of Us who've made it this far are cool with suspension of disbelief!
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 09:42 (eight years ago) link
Give or take a glaring dumpster access plot hole
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 09:43 (eight years ago) link
I'd be lying if I didn't still occasionally ask myself "no, seriously, how did Walt get Brock to eat those berries?" but I've otherwise been very credulous wrt this world. If only because the plot logic and character motivations in many other shows would lead me to believe that everyone involved is suffering from an ongoing series of brain events.
― My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 April 2016 12:26 (eight years ago) link
The writers have acknowledged that the Brock poisoning is their biggest stretch ever. They came up with the result, then struggled & strained and developed a "how Walt did it" that they could juuust accept for themselves to justify it.
― glandular lansbury (sic), Friday, 8 April 2016 12:58 (eight years ago) link
the Brock poisoning this was one of the only weak points in Breaking Bad's armour.
― draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:12 (eight years ago) link
I think I read that explanation once & was like "eh seems legit"
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:14 (eight years ago) link
How hard is it to poison a kid, kids eat any shit
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:15 (eight years ago) link
I was fine with the dead guy adjusting his tie too
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:16 (eight years ago) link
yeah i mean for a show that was about storytelling rather than "realism" they still never stooped as low as brother mouzone.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link
Ha I have high threshold for the cartoonish but that was corny as hell, yeah. Again I think they sold it tho
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:22 (eight years ago) link
I like to imagine that Walt just stridently approached Brock in broad daylight at like the playground or something and was like, "here, kid, eat these" and Brock was like "okay".
― My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:23 (eight years ago) link
yeah.
"hello brock, would you like to eat these berries?"
"yes."
some people have no imagination.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link
I think the only reason people are hung up on this is because we didn't see it. If they'd shown Walt slipping him the poison in whatever absolutely ridiculous scenario, they'd accept it the same way they did a 50 year old with lung cancer digging a huge money hole in the desert or whatever
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:30 (eight years ago) link
Or like he's just sitting there on a park bench when he knows Brock will be walking past and he's miming eating the berries and rubbing his tummy and is like "MMMMM, oh man, these are the best berries I've ever eaten." And Brock is naturally curious and is like, "hey, mister, can I have some of those berries?" And Walt's all coy, like, "I dunno, these are some pretty good berries, you might be too young to fully savor their deliciousness." But Brock is like totally hooked in now and he's like "pleeeeeease can I have some of your delicious berries?" It's the kind of scene you could have a lot of fun with, maybe play some jaunty music in the background, you know.
― My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:37 (eight years ago) link
Feel like he enlisted one of those meth gang bike kids
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link
shit you must have spent a while writing that, i can visualise it in my mind xpost
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link
The most likely scenario is that he used his scientific knowledge to develop a sort of berry catapult or gun so that he could launch berries into Brock's laughing mouth from afar while Saul was telling him jokes.
― My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:00 (eight years ago) link
I'm sending my writing packet in to Gilligan this afternoon, btw.
that makes sense. i had imagined he posed as the school nurse for berry suppository day, but i hadn't really thought it through and in some ways your idea is more plausible.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:01 (eight years ago) link
though not sure how he would have managed to fire the suppositories such that they were taken.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:03 (eight years ago) link
Ooh, berry suppository day is a good angle. Walt's goatee might be an impediment to posing as the nurse but I imagine he could employ a method similar to that used when Richard Pryor posed as a maid in The Toy. Yeah, this is really coming together.
― My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link
it would explain brock's reaction to seeing walt again. a mix of "i know this man from somewhere" and "this is an unpleasant man"
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:11 (eight years ago) link
do we know there wasn't enough time for walt to have set up an organic jam food truck?
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 April 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link
quality work here guys
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 April 2016 15:31 (eight years ago) link
I'm going to be so sad next week when this season is done.
― Honor thy pisstake as a hidden intention. (WilliamC), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link
i got pretty tense watching that. not a feeling i usually get w this show. good stuff
― Better Pau Gasol (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link
Final scene of penultimate episode of season two = watching Jane die
― Kevin Ageusia Smith (wins), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link
Mike and Good Samaritan, Jimmy and Chuck---maybe. Whether Chuck checks out or not (brain damage?), think Kim might break with Jimmy because of all this.
― dow, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
Anyway, pursuing a case against Jimmy (DNA samples?) wouldn't be wise, in terms of all the weird Chuck ways Jimmy has unavoidably observed while caring for his poor big brother (things which could be corroborated by Ernie and others) But Jimmy---goaded by Kim, if understandably so---panicked, and helped bring on this melt-down and accident.
― dow, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link
The bit with the hearing, knowing the mistake was coming to light, probably made me as uncomfortable as this show/BB ever has
― kinder, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link
when he told her she was "muddying the waters" haha
― Better Pau Gasol (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link
nearly 15 minutes before there was a scene with Jimmy!
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link
Despite the undeniable dramatic highpoints, let us not forget Jimmy and the flag, which cracked my ass up.
― a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link
jane was a decent person. chuck is an asshole.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, Kim was pretty spot-on when she fake dressed him down. Karmically speaking, he kinda asked to get Slippin' Jimmied (his injury aside).
― a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 00:49 (eight years ago) link
It's a stretch to say Chuck never supported Jimmy when Chuck got Jimmy the mailroom job at HHM
― JRN, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 00:59 (eight years ago) link
love the small moment where mike asks if it ever snows in albuquerque
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:27 (eight years ago) link
xpost Except for that whole thing where Chuck conspired behind the scenes to make sure Jimmy never made it any further than the mailroom.
― a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:39 (eight years ago) link
Valiant Printing - across the street from USEagle
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Valliant+Printing,+615+Gold+Ave+SW,+Albuquerque,+NM+87102/@35.0842196,-106.6548295,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x87220cc72e090c4f:0x36cc7356d2a0a404
― calstars, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:40 (eight years ago) link
And the waitress telling mike he can shovel her driveway
― calstars, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:43 (eight years ago) link
the van driver saw mike's car clearly. So mike was the one who had a senior moment, not chuck
― calstars, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:45 (eight years ago) link
I wish the show didn't show us the forgery. would have put us in Kim's shoes
― calstars, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:46 (eight years ago) link
That was some old beater, not Mike's regular ride.xp
― Honor thy pisstake as a hidden intention. (WilliamC), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 01:47 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I think his regular ride is a brown old beater.
― a spate of non-fatal hammer attacks (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 02:02 (eight years ago) link
xpost Except for that whole thing where Chuck conspired behind the scenes to make sure Jimmy never made it any further than the mailroom.― a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:39 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm repeating myself now, but as underhanded as that was--particularly when Jimmy was the one taking care of him--Chuck had every reason to think that Jimmy would be dangerous as a lawyer. And we know, from the events of this series and BB, that he was right. (And, although he stood in the way of Jimmy's being hired as a lawyer at HHM, he never stood in the way of his solo practice.)
Of course, we can (and should!) speculate about how things might have turned out differently had Chuck been completely supportive. But I don't think he's an asshole for being reluctant to get fully behind his career con-artist, family-business-bankrupting* brother's fledgling law career.
*supposing this is true
― JRN, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link
Mike was smart and had a different car parked there, yeah
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 02:08 (eight years ago) link