Better Call Saul

Yeah I know that's why I was constantly acknowledging as much, just womdering if there was anything I was missing, there wasn't

Yeah sure, my post prob seemed more snarky than I meant it. I guess I just am remembering people dismissing BB for not being "realistic".

Heh I think it's safe to say those of Us who've made it this far are cool with suspension of disbelief!

Give or take a glaring dumpster access plot hole

I'd be lying if I didn't still occasionally ask myself "no, seriously, how did Walt get Brock to eat those berries?" but I've otherwise been very credulous wrt this world. If only because the plot logic and character motivations in many other shows would lead me to believe that everyone involved is suffering from an ongoing series of brain events.

The writers have acknowledged that the Brock poisoning is their biggest stretch ever. They came up with the result, then struggled & strained and developed a "how Walt did it" that they could juuust accept for themselves to justify it.

the Brock poisoning this was one of the only weak points in Breaking Bad's armour.

I think I read that explanation once & was like "eh seems legit"

How hard is it to poison a kid, kids eat any shit

I was fine with the dead guy adjusting his tie too

yeah i mean for a show that was about storytelling rather than "realism" they still never stooped as low as brother mouzone.

Ha I have high threshold for the cartoonish but that was corny as hell, yeah. Again I think they sold it tho

I like to imagine that Walt just stridently approached Brock in broad daylight at like the playground or something and was like, "here, kid, eat these" and Brock was like "okay".

yeah.

"hello brock, would you like to eat these berries?"

"yes."

some people have no imagination.

I think the only reason people are hung up on this is because we didn't see it. If they'd shown Walt slipping him the poison in whatever absolutely ridiculous scenario, they'd accept it the same way they did a 50 year old with lung cancer digging a huge money hole in the desert or whatever

Or like he's just sitting there on a park bench when he knows Brock will be walking past and he's miming eating the berries and rubbing his tummy and is like "MMMMM, oh man, these are the best berries I've ever eaten." And Brock is naturally curious and is like, "hey, mister, can I have some of those berries?" And Walt's all coy, like, "I dunno, these are some pretty good berries, you might be too young to fully savor their deliciousness." But Brock is like totally hooked in now and he's like "pleeeeeease can I have some of your delicious berries?" It's the kind of scene you could have a lot of fun with, maybe play some jaunty music in the background, you know.

Feel like he enlisted one of those meth gang bike kids

shit you must have spent a while writing that, i can visualise it in my mind xpost

The most likely scenario is that he used his scientific knowledge to develop a sort of berry catapult or gun so that he could launch berries into Brock's laughing mouth from afar while Saul was telling him jokes.

I'm sending my writing packet in to Gilligan this afternoon, btw.

that makes sense. i had imagined he posed as the school nurse for berry suppository day, but i hadn't really thought it through and in some ways your idea is more plausible.

though not sure how he would have managed to fire the suppositories such that they were taken.

Ooh, berry suppository day is a good angle. Walt's goatee might be an impediment to posing as the nurse but I imagine he could employ a method similar to that used when Richard Pryor posed as a maid in The Toy. Yeah, this is really coming together.

it would explain brock's reaction to seeing walt again. a mix of "i know this man from somewhere" and "this is an unpleasant man"

do we know there wasn't enough time for walt to have set up an organic jam food truck?

quality work here guys

I'm going to be so sad next week when this season is done.

i got pretty tense watching that. not a feeling i usually get w this show. good stuff

Final scene of penultimate episode of season two = watching Jane die

Mike and Good Samaritan, Jimmy and Chuck---maybe. Whether Chuck checks out or not (brain damage?), think Kim might break with Jimmy because of all this.

Anyway, pursuing a case against Jimmy (DNA samples?) wouldn't be wise, in terms of all the weird Chuck ways Jimmy has unavoidably observed while caring for his poor big brother (things which could be corroborated by Ernie and others) But Jimmy---goaded by Kim, if understandably so---panicked, and helped bring on this melt-down and accident.

The bit with the hearing, knowing the mistake was coming to light, probably made me as uncomfortable as this show/BB ever has

when he told her she was "muddying the waters" haha

nearly 15 minutes before there was a scene with Jimmy!

Despite the undeniable dramatic highpoints, let us not forget Jimmy and the flag, which cracked my ass up.

Final scene of penultimate episode of season two = watching Jane die

jane was a decent person. chuck is an asshole.

Yeah, Kim was pretty spot-on when she fake dressed him down. Karmically speaking, he kinda asked to get Slippin' Jimmied (his injury aside).

It's a stretch to say Chuck never supported Jimmy when Chuck got Jimmy the mailroom job at HHM

love the small moment where mike asks if it ever snows in albuquerque

xpost Except for that whole thing where Chuck conspired behind the scenes to make sure Jimmy never made it any further than the mailroom.

Valiant Printing - across the street from USEagle

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Valliant+Printing,+615+Gold+Ave+SW,+Albuquerque,+NM+87102/@35.0842196,-106.6548295,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x87220cc72e090c4f:0x36cc7356d2a0a404

And the waitress telling mike he can shovel her driveway

the van driver saw mike's car clearly. So mike was the one who had a senior moment, not chuck

I wish the show didn't show us the forgery. would have put us in Kim's shoes

That was some old beater, not Mike's regular ride.
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Yeah, I think his regular ride is a brown old beater.

xpost Except for that whole thing where Chuck conspired behind the scenes to make sure Jimmy never made it any further than the mailroom.
― a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:39 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm repeating myself now, but as underhanded as that was--particularly when Jimmy was the one taking care of him--Chuck had every reason to think that Jimmy would be dangerous as a lawyer. And we know, from the events of this series and BB, that he was right. (And, although he stood in the way of Jimmy's being hired as a lawyer at HHM, he never stood in the way of his solo practice.)

Of course, we can (and should!) speculate about how things might have turned out differently had Chuck been completely supportive. But I don't think he's an asshole for being reluctant to get fully behind his career con-artist, family-business-bankrupting* brother's fledgling law career.

*supposing this is true

Mike was smart and had a different car parked there, yeah

My favorite part of this episode was Kim immediately concluding that Chuck was right about Jimmy forging the documents. I really didn't see that coming, but it makes sense: she knows Chuck too well to think he'd make that kind of mistake, and Jimmy too well to put that kind of determined, meticulous, fraudulent sabotage (on her behalf) past him. And there's something sweet about the fact that with her, as far as we know, Jimmy never even tries to deny it. (And she stays with him!)

Reading the AV Club review of this episode got me thinking: what was the point of that scene of Mike buying a round for the house at the bar? Will that come back to bite him in some way?

He still has a soft heart in there for humanity. He's pretty much all for his granddaughter by BB.